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THE W · 11-13-2012, 09:19 PM

http://www.proofthatgodexists.org/

dont know about this angle to christian apologetics but its interesting enough.

go to the website and do the questionnaire. interesting stuff.

beautifulrock · 11-13-2012, 10:10 PM

Nah, that's how they get ya.

THE W · 11-14-2012, 05:17 PM

haha, no one even took the time to check out the videos and the website?

food for thought · 11-14-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by THE W

haha, no one even took the time to give a fuck about this?

fixed.

RAT NIPPLED REBEL · 11-14-2012, 06:49 PM

the god in scriptures contradicts himself..

sometimes he is loving, and tolerant, other times he is hateful and vengeful,

i dont think they be speaking of the same god.

I dont even think they are talking about gods..

sorry not watched videos., 2hours is way too long to watch a religious guy try to prove that god exists..

but i peeped the website

motherfucker . i clicked on i dont care if absolute truth exists.. and fucker re directed me to disney.co.uk

ok got to teh end

To reach this page you had to acknowledge that immaterial, universal, unchanging laws of logic, mathematics, science, and absolute morality exist. Universal, immaterial, unchanging laws are necessary for rational thinking to be possible. Universal, immaterial, unchanging laws cannot be accounted for if the universe was random or only material in nature.
The Bible teaches us that there are 2 types of people in this world, those who profess the truth of God's existence and those who suppress the truth of God's existence. The options of 'seeking' God, or not believing in God are unavailable. The Bible never attempts to prove the existence of God as it declares that the existence of God is so obvious that we are without excuse for not believing in Him.

faggit shit.

he needs to look into fractals, fibonacci, golden ratio, electric universe.. and our dna.. but he would say, they prove that god exists..
lol

best part was the 1st page.. comedy gold.

You have likely heard that it is impossible to prove that God exists. You have heard wrong. Not only can the existence of God be proven, denying the proof undermines rational thought. It is true that God does not need anyone, let alone this website, to prove His existence. The Bible teaches that the existence of God is so obvious that we are without excuse for denying Him. No one needs proof that God exists,

using the bible as a final source LOL
highlighted sentence is a mindfuck, accepting he exists, soley based on the bible, undermines rational thought,.

Mumm Ra · 11-14-2012, 06:53 PM

this is his proof:

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Note that the proof does not say that professed unbelievers do not prove things. The argument is that you must borrow from the Christian worldview, and a God who makes universal, immaterial, unchanging laws possible in order to prove anything.

This type of logical proof deals with ‘transcendentals’ or ‘necessary starting points,’ and the proof is called a ‘transcendental proof.’ Any contrary view to the God of Christianity being the necessary starting point for rationality is reduced to absurdity. You have to assume God in order to argue against Him. Only the Christian worldview can logically support rationality.

thats the dumbest shit i ever heard in my life, and that guy is probably insane. he could place any religion besides christianity as his proof and it would accomplish the same thing.
by his own logic, he would have to admit christianity is wrong because christianity borrowed from earlier religions

RAT NIPPLED REBEL · 11-14-2012, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

this is his proof:

thats the dumbest shit i ever heard in my life, and that guy is probably insane. he could place any religion besides christianity as his proof and it would accomplish the same thing.
by his own logic, he would have to admit christianity is wrong because christianity borrowed from earlier religions

selective amnesia is a bitch

Mumm Ra · 11-14-2012, 07:05 PM

i emailed the faggot too
i await a retort

diggy · 11-14-2012, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by soul controller

the god in scriptures contradicts himself..

sometimes he is loving, and tolerant, other times he is hateful and vengeful

That's not a contradiction. It is possible to love and hate at different times.

THE W · 11-14-2012, 10:18 PM

like i said, not too keen on this brand of christian apologetics in choosing to do without evidentual apologetics for presuppositionalism.

if you dont want to hear a guy try and prove got exists how watching the same guy and his partner debate a couple of atheists in a formal debate.

its long, but interesting.

THE W · 11-14-2012, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FMJ

That's not a contradiction. It is possible to love and hate at different times.

i would have to bring into question someone's knowledge of who the God of the bible is to even think such a thing would be contradictory as it would seem to be lacking.

LORD NOSE · 11-15-2012, 02:39 AM

swine casting pearls to gods, then trying to trample them because the gods won't accept them

the gods is like, why i need them pearls from a pigs ass when i got diamonds from a creators mouth ?

he would need to raise his fire upward to even be able to get the chance to peep at heaven - he fears punishment from something he believes exist - so much so, that he won't challenge his own beliefs and be his own man

RAT NIPPLED REBEL · 11-15-2012, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by FMJ

That's not a contradiction. It is possible to love and hate at different times.

yes, but the god (or gods) in the 1st testament, have varying tolerance, and to different peoples..

id expect 'god' to be the same to everyone.. unless the writer is playing a mindfuck

How many gods are there?
http://errancy.org/polytheistic.html

Problem: The Old Testament mentions multiple gods
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/gods.html

Other Gods of the Hebrew and Christian Bible
http://www.bobgod.com/other.html

but anyway.. we all know these gods, are from other religions that preceded christianity as Mumm Ra said

D.projectile · 11-15-2012, 05:43 AM

OP why u post this g? just curious as to why..

D.projectile · 11-15-2012, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by FMJ

That's not a contradiction. It is possible to love and hate at different times.

love or want/have an attachment?

11-13-2012, 09:19 PM	#1
THE W ISRAELITE Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: in Christ Posts: 15,466 Rep Power: 44	to not believe in the God of scripture is.....illogical? http://www.proofthatgodexists.org/ dont know about this angle to christian apologetics but its interesting enough. go to the website and do the questionnaire. interesting stuff. __________________ The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. (Romans 1:18-20) Last edited by THE W; 11-13-2012 at 09:25 PM.

11-14-2012, 05:17 PM	#3
THE W ISRAELITE Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: in Christ Posts: 15,466 Rep Power: 44	haha, no one even took the time to check out the videos and the website? __________________ The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. (Romans 1:18-20)

11-14-2012, 06:49 PM	#5
RAT NIPPLED REBEL Yammich maeker Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: I am the key to the world. Age: 35 Posts: 8,202 Rep Power: 63	the god in scriptures contradicts himself.. sometimes he is loving, and tolerant, other times he is hateful and vengeful, i dont think they be speaking of the same god. I dont even think they are talking about gods.. sorry not watched videos., 2hours is way too long to watch a religious guy try to prove that god exists.. but i peeped the website motherfucker . i clicked on i dont care if absolute truth exists.. and fucker re directed me to disney.co.uk ok got to teh end To reach this page you had to acknowledge that immaterial, universal, unchanging laws of logic, mathematics, science, and absolute morality exist. Universal, immaterial, unchanging laws are necessary for rational thinking to be possible. Universal, immaterial, unchanging laws cannot be accounted for if the universe was random or only material in nature. The Bible teaches us that there are 2 types of people in this world, those who profess the truth of God's existence and those who suppress the truth of God's existence. The options of 'seeking' God, or not believing in God are unavailable. The Bible never attempts to prove the existence of God as it declares that the existence of God is so obvious that we are without excuse for not believing in Him. faggit shit. he needs to look into fractals, fibonacci, golden ratio, electric universe.. and our dna.. but he would say, they prove that god exists.. lol best part was the 1st page.. comedy gold. You have likely heard that it is impossible to prove that God exists. You have heard wrong. Not only can the existence of God be proven, denying the proof undermines rational thought. It is true that God does not need anyone, let alone this website, to prove His existence. The Bible teaches that the existence of God is so obvious that we are without excuse for denying Him. No one needs proof that God exists, using the bible as a final source LOL highlighted sentence is a mindfuck, accepting he exists, soley based on the bible, undermines rational thought,. __________________ my own conscious is beyond universal, there is no seperation only fragments of experience making sense of physical material existence on the path back to the source of all. LulZ KillZ Phear.... http://anonwm.com/ http://www.thepiratenetwork.org/Board/Pirate/index.html #OP ELE......Coming Soon.

11-14-2012, 07:05 PM	#8
Mumm Ra God's Replica Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Black Pyramid Age: 27 Posts: 9,602 Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 73	i emailed the faggot too i await a retort __________________ DOWNLOAD MASTER PLAN LP!!

11-14-2012, 10:18 PM	#10
THE W ISRAELITE Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: in Christ Posts: 15,466 Rep Power: 44	like i said, not too keen on this brand of christian apologetics in choosing to do without evidentual apologetics for presuppositionalism. if you dont want to hear a guy try and prove got exists how watching the same guy and his partner debate a couple of atheists in a formal debate. its long, but interesting. __________________ The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. (Romans 1:18-20)

11-15-2012, 02:39 AM	#12
LORD NOSE The Smell of The Future Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Double Barreled Snot Gun Posts: 13,986 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 65	swine casting pearls to gods, then trying to trample them because the gods won't accept them the gods is like, why i need them pearls from a pigs ass when i got diamonds from a creators mouth ? he would need to raise his fire upward to even be able to get the chance to peep at heaven - he fears punishment from something he believes exist - so much so, that he won't challenge his own beliefs and be his own man __________________

11-15-2012, 05:43 AM	#14
D.projectile member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 550 Rep Power: 5	OP why u post this g? just curious as to why..

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