What Happened To The Middle Man?

[hashashin]

Originally Posted by Ol' Dirty Trixˣ

your examples failed. i don't consider plants and herbs that were freely available a commodity.

if the groups who were good at hunting ate good and had their own pelts and was able to gather their own plants and herbs, what could a next man offer him? a next man that ain't good at hunting isn't gonna have pelts to trade.

But one group may have known where to find certain plants/herbs that others didn't or were unable to get to. Just cos they grew wild doesn't mean it was a freely available commodity for everyone.

As for the pelts, one group could have a very succesful period of hunting and had gathered excess of what they actually needed. Doesn't mean they would always be successful though. If there was times when food was scarse then they would have something to trade with if another group were doing well at that time..... or they could have just massacred the other group and took everything off them!

None of us can say for certain

[Ol' Dirty Trixˣ]

Originally Posted by hashashin

lol, I meant there wouldn't be arguments around the dinner table you dipshit! I don't think someone would be complaining cos they had to eat a different type of meat sometime. Do you really think they would be sitting there thinking

'What's this shite? I really fancied a nice juicy buffalo steak tonight' lmao

When it comes to the trading, maybe you're right about them fighting/killing for food from each other but on the other hand they could easily have traded, just cos there was no law enforcment/rules etc they could still have done trades. Maybe greed etc wasn't as prevalent as it is today

no, because people never argue or fight over food. have you not seen all the brawls that break out at fast food places?

[hashashin]

Originally Posted by check two

I didn't think they talked, I thought they just grunted? Not everybody loves steak. Maybe some liked dodo bird better or some didn't like meat at all, so they stuck to plants.

Maybe but I just don't really think they would have been as fussy as what people are today. With the abundance of different types of food, choice and availability that we have now I think peoples tastes/preferences are hugely different to what they would have been like. When food was scarce you probably would just be grateful for whatever you got to eat

[hashashin]

Originally Posted by Ol' Dirty Trixˣ

no, because people never argue or fight over food. have you not seen all the brawls that break out at fast food places?

Thats what I'm trying to say though Trix, people fight over that shite these days but back then if food was scarce do you not think they would just be grateful for whatever was available?

[Ol' Dirty Trixˣ]

Originally Posted by hashashin

But one group may have known where to find certain plants/herbs that others didn't or were unable to get to. Just cos they grew wild doesn't mean it was a freely available commodity for everyone.

As for the pelts, one group could have a very succesful period of hunting and had gathered excess of what they actually needed. Doesn't mean they would always be successful though. If there was times when food was scarse then they would have something to trade with if another group were doing well at that time..... or they could have just massacred the other group and took everything off them!

None of us can say for certain

so, it's winter and there aren't many plants about, let alone any special ones, and they're not good at catching anything. what do they have to trade with?

[hashashin]

Originally Posted by Ol' Dirty Trixˣ

so, it's winter and there aren't many plants about, let alone any special ones about. and they're not good at catching anything. what do they have to trade with?

I don't know! What other types of things could be considered a commodity back then?

[Ol' Dirty Trixˣ]

Originally Posted by hashashin

Maybe but I just don't really think they would have been as fussy as what people are today. With the abundance of different types of food, choice and availability that we have now I think peoples tastes/preferences are hugely different to what they would have been like. When food was scarce you probably would just be grateful for whatever you got to eat

Originally Posted by hashashin

Thats what I'm trying to say though Trix, people fight over that shite these days but back then if food was scarce do you not think they would just be grateful for whatever was available?

because people back then didn't have a preference of what type of food they liked?

because people didn't mind going hungry back then?

[Ol' Dirty Trixˣ]

Originally Posted by hashashin

I don't know! What other types of things could be considered a commodity back then?

you're the one who said they traded. you're the one that said they had a commodity to trade with. i'm asking you.

[Ol' Dirty Trixˣ]

giving how hard it is to hunt a buffalo, and with the added danger involved, what could a next man offer you in exchange for a bit of that juicy buffalo?

[hashashin]

Originally Posted by Ol' Dirty Trixˣ

because people back then didn't have a preference of what type of food they liked?

because people didn't mind going hungry back then?

Maybe, but I really don't think it was anything like it is these days, remember how much people have developed since then. I think peoples tastes back then would have been a lot simpler back then

They probably did mind about going hungry, thats why I'm saying I dont think they would be arguing about what was on the table, Of course some things might have tasted better than others but I think they would just be grateful to have food! Plus they were probably adapted to going for longer periods of not eating than what people are today

[Sky Blue Danny Kid]

[hashashin]

Originally Posted by Ol' Dirty Trixˣ

you're the one who said they traded. you're the one that said they had a commodity to trade with. i'm asking you.

Originally Posted by Ol' Dirty Trixˣ

giving how hard it is to hunt a buffalo, and with the added danger involved, what could a next man offer you in exchange for a bit of that juicy buffalo?

Well I never claimed to be an expert, I'm just suggesting possibilities. Maybe they did just kill and take what they want from other groups but I don't think its impossible to believe that people could have traded things back then, I'd have to look into it some more and know about how they lived etc as to what type of things would be commodity

[Ol' Dirty Trixˣ]

if one group was chasing a buffalo and the buffalo ran into another group's territory, does that mean the group that own that territory own the rights to that animal and take over from the first group?

Originally Posted by hashashin

Maybe, but I really don't think it was anything like it is these days, remember how much people have developed since then. I think peoples tastes back then would have been a lot simpler back then

They probably did mind about going hungry, thats why I'm saying I dont think they would be arguing about what was on the table, Of course some things might have tasted better than others but I think they would just be grateful to have food! Plus they were probably adapted to going for longer periods of not eating than what people are today

people's tastes might have been simpler back then, they may have been able to go without food for longer periods but hunger is hunger. they would have eaten whatever they managed to come home with but they were short most days, they would have resented the other groups that were better off. if they were losing out to the same group all the time, there would have been bitter resentment.

[Ol' Dirty Trixˣ]

Originally Posted by hashashin

Well I never claimed to be an expert, I'm just suggesting possibilities. Maybe they did just kill and take what they want from other groups but I don't think its impossible to believe that people could have traded things back then, I'd have to look into it some more and know about how they lived etc as to what type of things would be commodity

you do that.

[Ol' Dirty Trixˣ]

Originally Posted by hashashin

Maybe but I just don't really think they would have been as fussy as what people are today. With the abundance of different types of food, choice and availability that we have now I think peoples tastes/preferences are hugely different to what they would have been like. When food was scarce you probably would just be grateful for whatever you got to eat

if their skills only allowed them to eat fruit and veg and perhaps rabbit. do you think they were happy to eat the same shit everyday? the same shit that doesn't really satisfy their hunger (say they had a big clan to feed).


if they'd been trying to catch a buffalo for years, and year in year out they lose to the next group, it wouldn't matter at all they would just be happy they tried?