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Old 01-14-2013, 09:30 PM   #1
WallyG
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Default Assault Weapons - Are they necessary?

I live in Canada, the true north strong and free (yes, that's the line in the Canadian national anthem). Below are a list of prohibited firearms in the country. Source: Wikipedia

Prohibited firearms include:

Handguns

with a barrel length inferior to 105 millimetres (4.1 in), or;
that are designed to discharge .25 or .32 calibre ammunition;
exceptions are stated in the Regulations Prescribing Exclusions from Certain Definitions of the Criminal Code International Sporting Competition Handguns[29]

Rifles and shotguns that have been altered by sawing, cutting or any other means, so that:

the barrel length is inferior to 457 millimetres (18.0 in) (regardless of overall length), or;
the overall length is inferior to 660 millimetres (26 in)

Firearms which have fully automatic fire capability, or "converted automatics" (i.e.: firearms which were originally semi-automatic, but have been modified to discharge ammunition in an automatic fashion)
Firearms prescribed as prohibited by the Regulations Prescribing Certain Firearms and other Weapons, Components and Parts of Weapons, Accessories, Cartridge Magazines, Ammunition and Projectiles as Prohibited or Restricted (SOR/98-462)[23]:

Firearm capable of discharging dart or other object carrying electrical current or substance, including Taser Public Defender and any variant or modified version of it
Firearm known as SSS-1 Stinger and any similar firearm designed or of a size to fit in the palm of the hand
Carbines, rifles and shotguns of designs commonly known as, including any variants or modified versions of them:

A.A. Arms AR9 semi-auto rifle and AR-9 carbine
AK-47 rifle and all variants, including AK Hunter, AKM, AKM-63, AKS-56S, AKS-56S-1/2, AKS-74, AKS84S-1, AMD-65, AR Model .223, Dragunov, Galil, KKMPi69, M60, M62, M70B1, M70AB2, M76, M77B1, M78, M80, M80A, MAK90, MPiK, MPiKM, MPiKMS-72, MPiKS, PKM, PKM-DGN-60, PMKM, RPK, RPK-74, RPK-87S, Type 56, 56-1, 56-2, 56-3, 56-4, Type 68, Type 79, American Arms AKY39, AKF39, AKC47 and AKF47, MAM70WS762, Mitchell AK-22, AK-47 and Heavy Barrel AK-47, Norinco 84S, 84S AK, 56, 56-1/2/3/4, Poly Technologies Inc. AK-47/S, AKS-47/S and AKS-762, Valmet M76, M76 carbine, M78/A2, M78 LMG, M82 and M82 Bullpup, except: Valmet Hunter, Hunter Auto and M78
American 180 auto-carbine, including AM-180 and Illinois Arms Co. Model 180 auto-carbines
Armalite AR-180 Sporter carbine
Barrett "Light 50" Model 82A1 & Model 90 rifles
Benelli M1 Super 90 and M3 Super 90 shotguns, except: M1 Super 90 (Field/Sporting Special), Montefeltro Super 90 (Standard Hunter/Left Hand/Turkey/Uplander/Slug/20 Gauge), Black Eagle (Limited Ed./Competition/Slug Gun), Super Black Eagle (Custom Slug)
Beretta AR70 assault rifle
Bernardelli B4 and B4/B shotguns
BM 59 rifle, including: Beretta BM 59, BM 59R, BM 59GL, BM 59D, BM 59 MkE, BM 59 MkI/MkII/MkIII, BM 59 Mk Ital/Ital TA/TP/Para and BM 60CB, as well as Springfield Armory BM 59 Alpine, BM 59 Alpine Paratrooper and BM 59 Nigerian MkIV
Bushmaster auto-rifle
Calico M-900 rifle, including M-951, M-100 and M-105 carbines
Cetme Sport auto-rifle
Claridge HI-TEC C, LEC, ZLEC-9 carbines
Daewoo K1, K1A1, K2, Max1, Max2, AR-100, AR-110C, MAXI-II and KC-20 rifles
Demro TAC-1M and XF-7 Wasp carbines
Eagle Apache carbine
Encom MK-IV, MP-9 and MP-45 carbines
FAMAS rifle, including MAS223, FAMAS Export, FAMAS Civil and Mitchell MAS/22
Feather AT-9 semi-auto carbine and AT-22 auto-carbine
Federal XC-900, XC-220 rifles and XC-450 auto-rifle
Fabrique Nationale FN FNC, FNC-11, FNC-22, FNC-33, FNC Auto and FNC Auto Paratrooper rifles, as well as FN FAL, FN 308 Model44, FAL Competition Auto, FAL Heavy Barrel 308 Match, FAL Paratrooper 308 Match 50-64 and FN 308 Model 50-63
Franchi SPAS 12, LAW 12 shotguns
Franchi SPAS 15 shotgun
Galil assault rifle, including AP-84, ARM, AR, SAR, 332 and Mitchell Galil/22 auto-rifle
Gepard anti-materiel rifle
Goncz High-Tech carbine
Grendel R-31 auto-carbine
Heckler & Koch G3, G3A3, G3A3ZF, G3A4, G3SG/1, G11, HK33, 33A2, 33A3, 33KA1, HK91, 91A2, 91A3, 93, 93A2, 93A3, 94, 94A2, 94A3 and PSG-1 rifles, as well as: MP5, MP5A2, MP5A3, MP5K, MP5SD, MP5SD1, MP5SD2, MP5SD3 submachine guns
Iver Johnson AMAC long-range rifle and Plainfield Super Enforcer carbine
J&R Eng M-68, PJK M-68 and Wilkinson Terry carbines
Kimel Industries AR-9 rifle/carbine
Leader Mark Series auto-rifle
Maadi Griffin rifle/carbine
McMillan M87, M87R rifles and M88 carbine
Pauza Specialties P50 rifle and P50 carbine
PE57 rifle
Research Armament Industries Model 500 rifle
SIG AMT, SG-550 rifles and SG-551 carbine
Spectre auto-carbine
Springfield Armory SAR-48, SAR-48 Bush/Heavy Barrel/Para/22
Steyr AUG rifle
Striker, Striker 12 and Streetsweeper shotguns
Thompson submachine gun including: Model 1921, 1927, 1928, M1, Auto-Ordnance M27A-1, M27A-1 Deluxe, M1927A-3/A-5, Commando Arms MkI, MkII, MkIII, Mk9, Mk45
Universal Enforcer Model 3000 auto-carbine and Model 3010N, 3015G, 3020TRB and 3025TCO carbines
US Arms PMAI assault rifle
USAS-12 auto-shotgun
UZI, Mini-UZI and Model A carbines
Weaver Arms Nighthawk carbine

Pistols, revolvers and other handguns of designs commonly known as, including any variants or modified versions of them:

AA Arms AP-9 auto-pistol and AP-9, Target AP-9 and Mini AP-9 pistols
Bushmaster auto-pistol
Calico M-950 auto-pistol and M-110 pistol
Claridge Hi-Tec Models S, L, T, ZL-9 and ZT-9 pistols
Cobray M10, M11, and RPB M10/M11/SM10/SM11 and SWD M10/M11/SM10/SM11 pistols
CZ Skorpion auto-pistol
Encom MK-IV, MP-9 and MP-45 assault pistols, including MP-9, MP-45 mini pistols
Federal XP-450, XP-900 auto-pistols
Goncz High-Tech long pistol
Grendel P-30, P-30M, P-30L and P-31 pistols
Heckler & Koch SP89 auto-pistol
Ingram M10, M11 pistols
Interdynamics KG-99 assault pistol
Intratec Tec-9, Tec-9S, Tec-9M and Tec-9MS auto-pistols (as well as any semi-automatic variant including Tec-DC9, Tec-DC9M, Tec-9A, Tec-Scorpion, Tec-22T and Tec-22TN)
Iver Johnson Enforcer Model 3000 auto-pistol
Kimel Industries AP-9 pistol
Leader Mark5 auto-pistol
Maadi Griffin pistol
OA-93 assault pistol
Patriot pistol
Partisan Avenger auto-pistol
Spectre auto-pistol
Sterling MK6 carbine
Steyr SPP auto-pistol
Sterling Mk7, Mk7 C4 and Mk7 C8 pistols
US Arms PMAIP assault pistol
UZI, Micro-UZI pistols
XM231S pistol and A1, A2, A3 Flattop pistols


As you can see above, a crapload of firearms are prohibited in this country. I understand that in the USA, the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution declares the right of the people to keep and bear arms, enacted 1791. It is clear that Canadian, American and even British society have their own distinctive laws.

I would like to hear it from folks on this site, most of whom are Americans, on their take on assault weapons. Are they necessary? Why or why not? Do you think the American Constitution can/will change in the future?

I mean you can talk all the mental health you want, but the fact of the matter is, guns are powerful. It's so easy to flip the switch and go ballistic and shoot "shit", as if you don't have any morals. In the 21st century going forward, I can't imagine a civil war in Canada, US or any of the wealthy countries.

That going forward, opportunities should be boundless, by having faith and believing in yourself and your dream, not that Scarface "The World is Yours Dream" (though I love the movie, but that was the 1980's).

What's your take?

Cheers!
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