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Old 10-05-2005, 03:54 AM   #16
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There is explanation to the order of biological product. Or as we'd better refer to it as life. It's called evolution. A series of random occurances, mixed with a large series of mutations. The mutations are result of a biological need to adapt to our surroundings. I'm not an expert on Evolution. I just refuse to be branded a creation of someone else's. I think it's the kid and the ant farm example that I take issue with. Regardless of what you believe, you should realize that millions of people have worked hard, over thousands of years at convincing you that a christian god exists. Sometimes working in ways that seemed mysterious to those being worked over at the time, IE Crusades, Spanish Inquisution. To convince you that without this wonderfully simple product you will burn forever in hell. Seems like the case of The Other Guy. You know the guy that doesn't use whatever product would make his life simpler and more manageable.
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Old 10-05-2005, 06:41 AM   #17
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^might as well keep packing those chinese kids into the sweat shops.....i'm going to need all this modern convienence I can get
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Old 10-05-2005, 09:03 AM   #18
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Logos

A principle originating in classical Greek thought which refers to a universal divine reason, immanent in nature, yet transcending all oppositions and imperfections in the cosmos and humanity. An eternal and unchanging truth present from the time of creation, available to every individual who seeks it. A unifying and liberating revelatory force which reconciles the human with the divine; manifested in the world as an act of God's love in the form of the Christ.

Logos - Longer definition: The Greek word logos (traditionally meaning word, thought, principle, or speech) has been used among both philosophers and theologians. In most of its usages, logos is marked by two main distinctions - the first dealing with human reason (the rationality in the human mind which seeks to attain universal understanding and harmony), the second with universal intelligence (the universal ruling force governing and revealing through the cosmos to humankind, i.e., the Divine).

The Greek philosopher Heraclitus appears to be the first to have used the word logos to refer to a rational divine intelligence, which today is sometimes referred to in scientific discourse as the "mind of God." The early Greek philosophical tradition known as
Stoicism, which held that every human participates in a universal and divinely ordained community, then used the Logos doctrine as a principle for human law and morality. The Stoics believed that to achieve freedom, happiness, and meaning one should attune one's life to the wisdom of God's will, manifest in the second distinction (above) of Logos. The Christian church then extended the Stoic idea of the universal community by claiming the universal nature of salvation and the potential for all humans to participate in it.

In the New Testament, the phrase "Word (Logos) of God," found in John 1:1 and elsewhere, shows God's desire and ability to "speak" to the human. The Christian expression of this communication is evidenced in the Christ, who is the "Word become flesh." In these three biblical words, Christianity points to the possibility of union between the human and the divine, or the personal and the absolute. God's logos, which the Christ represents, acts as a bridge between the human's inner spiritual needs and the answer proclaimed by the Christian message.

So logos are created to be worshipped...

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Old 10-05-2005, 09:10 AM   #19
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That's scary I only didn't know one logo. I dont get the tree connection but it shows how heavily bombarded we are with advertising.
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Old 10-05-2005, 09:12 AM   #20
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Man do I miss getting in touch with my nature side.
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:27 AM   #21
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Peace Born Ruler I,

Very interesting read.

I was reading not too long ago an article in which the author compared modern day corporate logos with the demonic seals of medieval grimoires. Corporate "entities" as incorporeal beings, like a god which dedicated followers serve for life. Logos functioning as sigils.

And, of course, the sigil holds power. Back when Philip Morris purchased Kraft they paid many times over what the corporation was worth on paper, demonstrating the power of the trademarked logo.

It does get deep the deeper you look. One could argue one of the first organizations to use branding was the christian church, complete with cross logo in the town square. Corporate branding counselors admit the connection.

So swamped in it, people hardly notice a vast majority of it. Like you wrote, just another of the matrix.

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Old 10-06-2005, 08:44 AM   #22
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And the Bible was the first mass produced book, so it, too became part of the 'branding' along with the cross 'logo.'

True indeed, Tostones.

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Damn this world is crazy. Has any1 ever felt a weird uneasy feeling when passing thru a street riddled w/ logos.
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Old 10-24-2005, 03:38 PM   #24
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Damn this world is crazy. Has any1 ever felt a weird uneasy feeling when passing thru a street riddled w/ logos.
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They are effective in their designs. At times, I have also become aware of a similar feeling.

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Old 10-24-2005, 03:45 PM   #25
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Peace Born Ruler I,

Very interesting read.

I was reading not too long ago an article in which the author compared modern day corporate logos with the demonic seals of medieval grimoires. Corporate "entities" as incorporeal beings, like a god which dedicated followers serve for life. Logos functioning as sigils.

And, of course, the sigil holds power. Back when Philip Morris purchased Kraft they paid many times over what the corporation was worth on paper, demonstrating the power of the trademarked logo.

It does get deep the deeper you look. One could argue one of the first organizations to use branding was the christian church, complete with cross logo in the town square. Corporate branding counselors admit the connection.

So swamped in it, people hardly notice a vast majority of it. Like you wrote, just another of the matrix.

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Old 10-24-2005, 03:49 PM   #26
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true.

It would appear that Wu-tang has understood the use of logos since the beginning.

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Old 11-11-2005, 12:25 AM   #27
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that shits crazy i guess thats why i post up propaganda
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Old 11-12-2005, 04:44 PM   #28
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peace

thank you for bringing this thread back up, as I never did post the plant answers for those that may be interested. they were as follows:

1. Elm tree
2. Foxglove
3. Oak tree
4. Potato plant
5. Rice field
6. Birch tree
7. Sugar
8. Mint

I take it that the corporate logos answers are totally unecessary.

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