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claaa7 · 12-03-2010, 06:24 AM

i've been spinning alot of Tribe again lately, one of the best hip-hop groups of all time - without a doubt. they have an amazing legacy with only 5 albums released and basically only a 12" single together since 1998. their catalouge is usually said to feature 3 classic albums but to me "Beats, Rhymes & Life" is extremely underrated and better than their debut. "The Love Movement" is another good album once i was willing to give it a fair chance but it's obviously a far cry from their classic round.

i don't think it would ever happen again, but it ain't impossible and they have been on the road together so in that essence they are still a group. all the members are still involved with music, Q-Tip has dropped some great albums and Phife Dawg's debut was solid as well. do you think they could re-create the magic in the studio if they took a shot at it or would they tarnish their legacy a little bit if they released an album that couldn't match any of their previous work? they did one single in 2003 together with Erykah Badu, but since then nothing has been released and i don't think Tip and Phife has even been rhyming on a beat together since then or have i missed something?

also Michael Rapaport's documentary about the group is said to be ready to go now, i've seen a 5 minute trailers and it looks real promising. he pretty much spent 2 years on the road with Tip, Ali, Phife and Jairobi so there is definitely gonna be a lot of great footage. the film is called "Beats, Rhymes And Fights".

Tecknowledgist · 12-03-2010, 06:32 AM

as long as ali shaheed is producing...i think they'll be able to stick to their formula and release great music but as soon as they start getting outside producers to "branch out" and "step outside the box" its going to fuck shit up, as it has with pretty much everyone who's ever tried it

i'm not worried about tip because the dude hasn't changed a bit since midnight marauders, can't really speak on phife since i haven't heard much from him since the love movement

angry! · 12-03-2010, 06:47 AM

if they could get it togteher id love to hear it...

as is...

i cant wait to peep the doc...

q-tip out here sayin hes NOT in support of it...

probably due to the film makiin him look bad...

shapin up to be classic footage!!!!!

but real talk, if TRIBE dropped another album, and it sucked, it wouldnt tarnish their legacy at all... theyre bulletproof!!!!!!!!!!!

fatboybrandon · 12-03-2010, 07:15 AM

I'm happy with Tribe's legacy as is, just like I was happy with EPMD's legacy up to Business Never Personal. Even if Tribe could release a classic today, I'm afraid it may go overlooked when you factor in today's record sales, then poor promotion and label support as a result.

I would want to see a decent amount of recognition for a new Tribe album if it dropped, but I'm afraid that today their music might be the type that is too much for many people's attention spans.

The music I get automatically delivered to my inbox from popular blogs weekly sounds alot like each other, many people following each other sounding like they want that next radio hit.

There is great hope for a new Tribe album overseas though, I notice how the international heads still appreciate the classic sound of the 80's/90's, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

MaskedAvenger · 12-03-2010, 10:24 AM

Even thought I agree with fatboybrandon in that ATCQ has a perfect catalog as it is, I have to admit I would be mad hyped to hear new ATCQ stuff. I still bump them on the regular.

Frank Sobotka · 12-03-2010, 10:30 AM

Still haven't listened to their entire catalogue.
Got Low End Theory & Midnight Marauders.

J-DON · 12-03-2010, 10:41 AM

Yes, definitely! Or at least a new Tip album VERY soon.

p-rok73 · 12-03-2010, 06:34 PM

If the original Tribe got together then maybe...their first three were classics, Love Movement was OK & Beats Rhymes & Life was the one I disliked the most. The last Q Tip album was very good IMO.

MindzEye · 12-03-2010, 06:39 PM

I think everyone would want a new Tribe ablum...but...I remember hearing in a Tip interview that they would all be down except they don't want to because they have issues with the record label they are on...i think he said they have one album left on their contract

p-rok73 · 12-03-2010, 06:46 PM

So are they still with Jive Records? Maybe Q Tip can release a "solo" album featuring a lot of Phife & Ali. Sort of like Ghost & Raekwon did with CLI & IRONMAN.

LORD NOSE · 12-03-2010, 08:01 PM

yeah

Hocmat · 12-03-2010, 10:10 PM

If Ali Shaheed handled the production I would buy it. I don't think the MCing would be what it used to be due to Q-Tip and Phife not being on a track together for so long. Wiki says that they still owe an album in their contract to Jive records. I'm not saying they should drop another album because their legacy is perfect where it is. If one dropped, I would buy it though.

claaa7 · 12-04-2010, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tecknowledgist

as long as ali shaheed is producing...i think they'll be able to stick to their formula and release great music but as soon as they start getting outside producers to "branch out" and "step outside the box" its going to fuck shit up, as it has with pretty much everyone who's ever tried it

i'm not worried about tip because the dude hasn't changed a bit since midnight marauders, can't really speak on phife since i haven't heard much from him since the love movement

exactly, the production is such a large part of the Tribe's sound so that even when Jay Dee brought his beats to the table it took away from the vibe (although they were really dope beats). i know Q-Tip said in interviews that he did ALL THE BEATS and everything about the production on all the Tribe albums except for Jay Dee and Skeff Anslem. i don't know why he would go on and say something like that if it wasn't true but i don't believe for a second Ali Shaheed hadn't alot to do with the creation of many beats on each and every album.

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Originally Posted by angry!

if they could get it togteher id love to hear it...

as is...

i cant wait to peep the doc...

q-tip out here sayin hes NOT in support of it...

probably due to the film makiin him look bad...

shapin up to be classic footage!!!!!

but real talk, if TRIBE dropped another album, and it sucked, it wouldnt tarnish their legacy at all... theyre bulletproof!!!!!!!!!!!

wow, i didn't know Q-Tip wasn't supporting that movie, i bet it's for that exact reason you mentioned. he didn't exactly come off as the "good guy" in the trailer i saw, but everybody has their fights.

true about their catalouge though, it's like with LL. he can drop a shithole of an album every year and it's still not gonna take away his status as a legend.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatboybrandon

I'm happy with Tribe's legacy as is, just like I was happy with EPMD's legacy up to Business Never Personal. Even if Tribe could release a classic today, I'm afraid it may go overlooked when you factor in today's record sales, then poor promotion and label support as a result.

I would want to see a decent amount of recognition for a new Tribe album if it dropped, but I'm afraid that today their music might be the type that is too much for many people's attention spans.

The music I get automatically delivered to my inbox from popular blogs weekly sounds alot like each other, many people following each other sounding like they want that next radio hit.

There is great hope for a new Tribe album overseas though, I notice how the international heads still appreciate the classic sound of the 80's/90's, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

i wouldn't think A Tribe could reach very high sales these days, there's not many that could and if they would do another album i would want them to stick with their guns and staying close to their original sound. i just don't see the kids today loving that type of music compared to what's the mainstream today.

but they do got a pretty big following since back in the days i would imagine and Q-Tip still sold pretty well with "The Renaissance" i think so with the right promotion they should be able to do decent numbers.

CharlesJones · 12-04-2010, 10:28 AM

I wanna see that Tribe documentary. When is it coming out? LOL@Claaa7 saying QTip's solo albums are great hahahahahahahahahahaha. His albums are wack. Amplified is the only album of his i heard and i didn't like that. So i don't wanna hear his other albums. Phife's solo album is good. I wish he had done more solo albums. I'd like to hear a new Tribe album. P-rok73, you crazy saying Beats Rhymes And Life album sucks. That album is tight.

Taskmaster2112 · 12-04-2010, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlesJones

LOL@Claaa7 saying QTip's solo albums are great hahahahahahahahahahaha. His albums are wack. Amplified is the only album of his i heard and i didn't like that. So i don't wanna hear his other albums.

"Renaissance" was an incredible album. you can't say that all of his albums are wack when you've only heard one of them. especially when there was 9 years between "Amplified" and "Renaissance", and the sound on them is completely different. seriously, do yourself a favor and listen to "Renaissance"

12-03-2010, 06:24 AM	#1
claaa7 Killer Bob Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: THE BLACK LODGE Posts: 12,024 Rep Power: 68	would you want a new A Tribe Called Quest album? i've been spinning alot of Tribe again lately, one of the best hip-hop groups of all time - without a doubt. they have an amazing legacy with only 5 albums released and basically only a 12" single together since 1998. their catalouge is usually said to feature 3 classic albums but to me "Beats, Rhymes & Life" is extremely underrated and better than their debut. "The Love Movement" is another good album once i was willing to give it a fair chance but it's obviously a far cry from their classic round. i don't think it would ever happen again, but it ain't impossible and they have been on the road together so in that essence they are still a group. all the members are still involved with music, Q-Tip has dropped some great albums and Phife Dawg's debut was solid as well. do you think they could re-create the magic in the studio if they took a shot at it or would they tarnish their legacy a little bit if they released an album that couldn't match any of their previous work? they did one single in 2003 together with Erykah Badu, but since then nothing has been released and i don't think Tip and Phife has even been rhyming on a beat together since then or have i missed something? also Michael Rapaport's documentary about the group is said to be ready to go now, i've seen a 5 minute trailers and it looks real promising. he pretty much spent 2 years on the road with Tip, Ali, Phife and Jairobi so there is definitely gonna be a lot of great footage. the film is called "Beats, Rhymes And Fights". __________________ http://www.claaa7.blogspot.com daily updates: news, articles, reviews, the best compilations on the net. that true skool street hop! r.i.p. Kaddu & "Slick Rick" and the rest of the fallen soldiers - you'll never be forgotten

12-03-2010, 06:32 AM	#2
Tecknowledgist PUTYOMONEYWHEREYOMOUTHIZ Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 705 Age: 24 Posts: 3,861 Rep Power: 24	as long as ali shaheed is producing...i think they'll be able to stick to their formula and release great music but as soon as they start getting outside producers to "branch out" and "step outside the box" its going to fuck shit up, as it has with pretty much everyone who's ever tried it i'm not worried about tip because the dude hasn't changed a bit since midnight marauders, can't really speak on phife since i haven't heard much from him since the love movement __________________ http://www.twitter.com/tecknowledgist

12-03-2010, 07:15 AM	#4
fatboybrandon Your fav. artist's artist Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,394 Rep Power: 0	I'm happy with Tribe's legacy as is, just like I was happy with EPMD's legacy up to Business Never Personal. Even if Tribe could release a classic today, I'm afraid it may go overlooked when you factor in today's record sales, then poor promotion and label support as a result. I would want to see a decent amount of recognition for a new Tribe album if it dropped, but I'm afraid that today their music might be the type that is too much for many people's attention spans. The music I get automatically delivered to my inbox from popular blogs weekly sounds alot like each other, many people following each other sounding like they want that next radio hit. There is great hope for a new Tribe album overseas though, I notice how the international heads still appreciate the classic sound of the 80's/90's, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. __________________ Click here to launch RZA Radio! Get this player for your signature or website

12-03-2010, 10:24 AM	#5
MaskedAvenger Secret Rival Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Rugged Lands of Shaolin Posts: 3,402 Rep Power: 23	Even thought I agree with fatboybrandon in that ATCQ has a perfect catalog as it is, I have to admit I would be mad hyped to hear new ATCQ stuff. I still bump them on the regular. __________________ NON IGNORANTS Free angry!

12-03-2010, 10:30 AM	#6
Frank Sobotka Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,821 Rep Power: 14	Still haven't listened to their entire catalogue. Got Low End Theory & Midnight Marauders. __________________

12-03-2010, 06:47 AM	#3
angry! Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 3,637 Rep Power: 0	if they could get it togteher id love to hear it... as is... i cant wait to peep the doc... q-tip out here sayin hes NOT in support of it... probably due to the film makiin him look bad... shapin up to be classic footage!!!!! but real talk, if TRIBE dropped another album, and it sucked, it wouldnt tarnish their legacy at all... theyre bulletproof!!!!!!!!!!!

12-03-2010, 10:41 AM	#7
J-DON Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 2,990 Rep Power: 16	Yes, definitely! Or at least a new Tip album VERY soon.

12-03-2010, 06:34 PM	#8
p-rok73 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 867 Rep Power: 8	If the original Tribe got together then maybe...their first three were classics, Love Movement was OK & Beats Rhymes & Life was the one I disliked the most. The last Q Tip album was very good IMO.

12-03-2010, 06:39 PM	#9
MindzEye Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hip Hop Shop Posts: 150 Rep Power: 0	I think everyone would want a new Tribe ablum...but...I remember hearing in a Tip interview that they would all be down except they don't want to because they have issues with the record label they are on...i think he said they have one album left on their contract

12-03-2010, 06:46 PM	#10
p-rok73 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 867 Rep Power: 8	So are they still with Jive Records? Maybe Q Tip can release a "solo" album featuring a lot of Phife & Ali. Sort of like Ghost & Raekwon did with CLI & IRONMAN.

12-03-2010, 08:01 PM	#11
LORD NOSE The Smell of The Future Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Double Barreled Snot Gun Posts: 13,950 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 65	yeah __________________

12-03-2010, 10:10 PM	#12
Hocmat Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	If Ali Shaheed handled the production I would buy it. I don't think the MCing would be what it used to be due to Q-Tip and Phife not being on a track together for so long. Wiki says that they still owe an album in their contract to Jive records. I'm not saying they should drop another album because their legacy is perfect where it is. If one dropped, I would buy it though. __________________ I'm new at this.

12-04-2010, 10:28 AM	#14
CharlesJones Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 8,999 Rep Power: 28	I wanna see that Tribe documentary. When is it coming out? LOL@Claaa7 saying QTip's solo albums are great hahahahahahahahahahaha. His albums are wack. Amplified is the only album of his i heard and i didn't like that. So i don't wanna hear his other albums. Phife's solo album is good. I wish he had done more solo albums. I'd like to hear a new Tribe album. P-rok73, you crazy saying Beats Rhymes And Life album sucks. That album is tight.

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