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Old 02-22-2011, 07:42 AM   #1
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Can't help but to keep on thinking this whole Middle Eastern thing happening right now is somehow orchestrated (by the West) and directly tied to Africa.



This year, in 2011, there will be elections in more than 20 African countries, and problems have already started in Ivory Coast and Sudan (which has now split in two countries), let alone all the North African countries like Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria, and now what we see happening in Libya.



Some say now that the unrest has begun in Libya, it will spread to other (non-Arab) African countries. Today there were reports protests have started in Djibouti.



Also, a few days ago there were elections in Uganda, which also is a key country in the region sharing borders with Sudan, which in its turn shares borders with Libya and Egypt. Getting the big picture?



I remember two years ago Professor Griff said in The Obama Deception that the (rich white) American elite chose Obama as it's candidate because the U.S. has now set its eyes on Africa.



Anyway this is the quote from Professor Griff, and try looking at the current events with all the protests happening through the perspective of Griffs quote:



"Barack Obama's been given a pass by the blue bloods. He's been given the "okay" by certain secret societies... I truly believe imperialism and fascism needs a facelift, and the facelift is gonna have to be black. And the reason why I believe that is simply because I think they're trying to go into Africa, they're already in Africa, but they want to totally control all the natural minerals. They're going to need to carry themselves into the 21st, 22nd, 23rd centuries... So they have to go through a phase of galvanizing masses of dark-skinned people that truly believe that change needs to come, but the change that they're talking about is not necessarily change for the better, as far as of the masses of the people; it's probably a better change for them. It's not really "change" for us, the low man on the totem pole... And no one looks at the agenda. As long as he positions himself right, has the right tie on, the right smile, repeats the slogans over and over, and drives it home, the average American is gonna swallow it hook, line, and sinker. And we don't even know what the agenda is."
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is it surprising though? all the middle eastern and African countries manufactured by the British and French are imploding.
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interesting perspective, time will tell about Africa, I guess.
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Shouldn't the experts have warned us about the possibility that something like this could happen?





When you have a lot of poverty and low job prospects...















, a huge segment of the population under 30 yrs old....








...and an example from the Tunisians, that you can focus frustrations against the government successfully, then you get what is happening. Africa maybe next like some of you have said.
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is it surprising though? all the middle eastern and African countries manufactured by the British and French are imploding.
Were not these democratic countries which made these countries into what they are now?
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I'm proud it all started in my country Tunisia which untill recently was totally unknown
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Interesting theory. I don't think it's quite as diabolical as stated in the OP, but I can't fight the notion that most of the power in Washington is pretty excited about all this shit
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Interesting theory. I don't think it's quite as diabolical as stated in the OP, but I can't fight the notion that most of the power in Washington is pretty excited about all this shit

so gas prices can go up, and their voters can get pissed? so there can be a vacuum for power that can leave a possibility for terrorist groups to step in a seize power?

you sure bout that? if anything they are worried about whats going on over there. that shit is unstable as hell.

why do you think Egypt got so much foreign aid, and we looked the other way at all the shady shit mubarak was doing? i'll make it easy and answer that for you.

because he held it together and kept the muslim brotherhood out of politics.

same reason the US supported hard-line authoritarian dictators in Latin America during the cold war. Rather some prick bastard of a leader that rulers with an iron fist but does what we want than a process that may allow for competing interests with ours to get into power.
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You guy should stop cause a lot of the comments on this thread are insulting


You guys have an extremely eurocentric view and it appears that you believe nothing can happen in africa, good or bad, without european planning or intervention


the EU and America didn't see any of this happening and that's why they're all dumbfounded to give clear cohesive statements on the issues





Egpytians were tired of mubarak and always had been, they were just afraid until they say Tunisia make it happen, who are less scared cause their dictator is less brutal



Sudan has been happening for 40+ years. What you're seeing now is the result of an agreement signed in 2005.

Elections were scheduled to happen in Uganda, and like always Museveni cheated and proclaimed himself winner.





All the revolutions are 100% against US and European foreign policy goals because those dictators were ensuring them predictablity, stability, and wealth. The US armed egypt ridiculously with an understanding that someone they trust, mubarak, would remain in power

this is the result of a world freeing it's self from it's past and a new generation changing the guard, simple as that.
All the leaders being peeled off were vestages from out parents generations.

also africans fully understand Europe is not the cause of their problems and whatever europe steals from africa other africans are stealing 10 fold.
Nobody in europe is as rich as Meles Zenawi, Hosni Mubarak, Robert Mugabe, Olusegun Obasanjo, Ibrahim Babangida, and Ghaddaffi

NOBODY. These are, easily, the richest men in the world, they have been manipulation the west to aid in their bidding for decades in private with lies blackmail and bribes.
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also you fags are stupid, if anything the 'secret societies' are being overthrown by the very 'people's revolution' you queers tout about


now all those random kids in the streets putting in work are parts of the secert society too

lol
why dont you just learn about the real world instead of making up fake ones to fill you gaps in knowledge. its ok to not know about these countries, you're rarely taught about them, it's not your fault, but don't flaunt your ignorance carelessly



Ivory Coast, Egypt, Tunisia, and all the revolutions are 110% against Us and western interests. The world is changing, this is about generation conflict, or these countries own hippie and civil rights movements, that's all.



Also, all this stuff isn't happening 'all of a sudden'. Reading an african newspaper on any day in the past 30 years shit like this happens annually, it's just now that the west is covering it because the magnitude and scale has increased due to facebook and twitter
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What the hell does that even mean?




so gas prices can go up, and their voters can get pissed? so there can be a vacuum for power that can leave a possibility for terrorist groups to step in a seize power?

you sure bout that? if anything they are worried about whats going on over there. that shit is unstable as hell.

why do you think Egypt got so much foreign aid, and we looked the other way at all the shady shit mubarak was doing? i'll make it easy and answer that for you.

because he held it together and kept the muslim brotherhood out of politics.

same reason the US supported hard-line authoritarian dictators in Latin America during the cold war. Rather some prick bastard of a leader that rulers with an iron fist but does what we want than a process that may allow for competing interests with ours to get into power.
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You guy should stop cause a lot of the comments on this thread are insulting


You guys have an extremely eurocentric view and it appears that you believe nothing can happen in africa, good or bad, without european planning or intervention


the EU and America didn't see any of this happening and that's why they're all dumbfounded to give clear cohesive statements on the issues





Egpytians were tired of mubarak and always had been, they were just afraid until they say Tunisia make it happen, who are less scared cause their dictator is less brutal



Sudan has been happening for 40+ years. What you're seeing now is the result of an agreement signed in 2005.

Elections were scheduled to happen in Uganda, and like always Museveni cheated and proclaimed himself winner.





All the revolutions are 100% against US and European foreign policy goals because those dictators were ensuring them predictablity, stability, and wealth. The US armed egypt ridiculously with an understanding that someone they trust, mubarak, would remain in power

this is the result of a world freeing it's self from it's past and a new generation changing the guard, simple as that.
All the leaders being peeled off were vestages from out parents generations.

also africans fully understand Europe is not the cause of their problems and whatever europe steals from africa other africans are stealing 10 fold.
Nobody in europe is as rich as Meles Zenawi, Hosni Mubarak, Robert Mugabe, Olusegun Obasanjo, Ibrahim Babangida, and Ghaddaffi

NOBODY. These are, easily, the richest men in the world, they have been manipulation the west to aid in their bidding for decades in private with lies blackmail and bribes.
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also you fags are stupid, if anything the 'secret societies' are being overthrown by the very 'people's revolution' you queers tout about


now all those random kids in the streets putting in work are parts of the secert society too

lol
why dont you just learn about the real world instead of making up fake ones to fill you gaps in knowledge. its ok to not know about these countries, you're rarely taught about them, it's not your fault, but don't flaunt your ignorance carelessly



Ivory Coast, Egypt, Tunisia, and all the revolutions are 110% against Us and western interests. The world is changing, this is about generation conflict, or these countries own hippie and civil rights movements, that's all.



Also, all this stuff isn't happening 'all of a sudden'. Reading an african newspaper on any day in the past 30 years shit like this happens annually, it's just now that the west is covering it because the magnitude and scale has increased due to facebook and twitter

thanks for the cosign/back up.
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peace.

i dont mean to offend anyone,

just give this idea a thought,

the people in the africa and the middle east are riseing up, cos they have had enough of western installed puppets, and western corperations rapeing their lands,.

the people in the middle east openly blame the western govts,.

the people in the middle east and africa, want democracy (regardless if the democracy is illusion/plutocracy) they want a democracy cos,. the LEADERS WE HAVE SELECTED, are and have been killing africa and the middle east,. for year upon year on every level.

they might see all westerners to blame cos of our 'obediance'

they could want leaders that will destroy the western ways of life,



thats not what i really think.. just a thought..


what i really think is, human consciousness is wakeing the fuck up, goin in this this final cycle of the mayan calender of pro creation. (this everything speeding up. more events/experiances in less time)


then we may see those 'secret socities' fall.
but until then.. expect more pain/genocide and negativity.


YES the world is changing. the western hemisphere has controlled it for long enough,, ( look at what the west has brought us), compare that to what the east had achieved, both hemispheres of the earth reflect the same ideologys/mind sets as the brains hemisphere's

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Don't be so proud about it.


It started off in Serbia in 2000 and Ukraine in 2004. Both of these revolutions were orcherstrated and heavily financed by the CIA. Africa/ Middle East follow the exact scenario.




This is way beyond 'democracy', 'civil rights' and unreal things of that nature.
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Looking at the situation in Libya it all seems to be a repeat of what happened before the Iraq war.

Today you have NATO, the USA and the UN not ruling out military action. Britain has said it is ready to arm the protestors. The USA is sending a fleet to the Mediterranean.

I will not be surprised if the West decides to occupy Libya. All the steps taken before the Iraq war are being taken now against Libya.
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Don't be so proud about it.


It started off in Serbia in 2000 and Ukraine in 2004. Both of these revolutions were orcherstrated and heavily financed by the CIA. Africa/ Middle East follow the exact scenario.




This is way beyond 'democracy', 'civil rights' and unreal things of that nature.

if you think the CIA is behind whats going on in the middle east and africa, you are not a smart man.
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