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Old 03-04-2011, 09:08 AM   #16
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Enta Da Stage is 100 and 10% gangster rap.
Nothing backpack about the album except backpackers like the era.

so? talking about violence and raw themes doesn't exclude them at all. it's only in recent days that backpack rap has become associated with geeks who raps about their low self esteem.

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Buckshot: Big up to all the kids out there, I do wanna say this. I wanna big up all my backpackers because y’all stuck by me since day one. I came out with the backpack thing in like 1992 with ‘who got the props’ and I use to tell people to wear the knapsack. It’s funny how a lot of my own people in the hood didn’t support it, but people outside of my hood supported it. So, I created a bookbag and I got another bookbag coming also. I wanna thank all of the backpackers that support my shows and stuff like that. 2009 the world is ours! Peace out.

http://www.formatmag.com/features/buckshot/
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:24 AM   #17
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sFormat: You came out early with the ‘backpacker’ style in your Black Moon days. What’s it like to see it becoming so popular?
Buckshot: Big up to all the kids out there, I do wanna say this. I wanna big up all my backpackers because y’all stuck by me since day one. I came out with the backpack thing in like 1992 with ‘who got the props’ and I use to tell people to wear the knapsack. It’s funny how a lot of my own people in the hood didn’t support it, but people outside of my hood supported it. So, I created a bookbag and I got another bookbag coming also. I wanna thank all of the backpackers that support my shows and stuff like that. 2009 the world is ours! Peace out.




http://www.formatmag.com/features/buckshot/
Thanks for bringing this up claaa, not much else I need to hear or care to hear about "backpack" in Hip Hop aside from this. I already thought early 90's Buckshot or Grand Puba before entering this thread.

Those who lived through the era of Enta Da Stage already know what backpack in Hip Hop really means, but I don't knock anyone wanting to define or imagine it as something else.
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Old 03-04-2011, 12:37 PM   #18
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so? talking about violence and raw themes doesn't exclude them at all. it's only in recent days that backpack rap has become associated with geeks who raps about their low self esteem.




http://www.formatmag.com/features/buckshot/
well the subject matter of Enta Da Stage doesn't differ from the average subject matter of the first Lil Scrappy Album or Trillvill album, so where one gets off calling it backpack and Lil Scrappy isn't is beyond me.

Backpackers like music from that era but it doesn't mean it's backpack music.
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:53 PM   #19
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u couldent really credit one individual for a whole movement but all three of these lables contributed in a big way
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Old 03-04-2011, 02:06 PM   #20
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am still not clear on the concept of "backpack rap"
more examples

J Live
Lyricists Lounge shit
Early Rawkus shit
Quasimoto albums
Lootpack
J Rawls

Although the concept of what backpack rap actually is, kinda hard to describe.

b/c I wouldnt put a Quasimoto album in the saame vein as a lootpack album but theyre def both backpack

too many people claim backpack in this era though

I dont even remember the term being used until about 2004ish, and only in more recent years has it gotten widely used, often in the negative

people like Kid Cudi, Wiz Khalifa, Wale, B.O.B these lames all "claim" the back pack status.

backpack has changed through the years

Back when Rawkus was going strongest, Back pack was just hip hop with more thought put into it, made generally by people with slightly more intelligence and musical knowledge

and were more aware of hip hop itself, and were at the same time concious of their hip hop knowledge

back pack was the first post modern hip hop movement i think

it doesnt have to be 'concious' though, obviously


I wouldnt be surprised if the term sprang from the skateboarding community, skateboarders always listened to that type of raw or quirky hip hop, skateboarders are always wearing backpacks.

And then the humour bacckpackers, like J Zone for instance, I wouldnt be surprised if 95% of J Zone's audience were back pack wearing skateboarders
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Old 03-04-2011, 02:12 PM   #21
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Backpack rap is rappin' when you wear your pack on your back. What more there is to say? The whole idea is so vague it only started being used when Top 40 maniacs started to hate on anything else.
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Old 03-04-2011, 06:23 PM   #22
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I would go with The Native Tongues of the late 80's & early 90's...because they were the alternative to what was big at that time, big meaning "gangsta rap".
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Old 03-04-2011, 08:44 PM   #23
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organized konfusions gotta get some credit, i mean weird experimental style, out of the ordinary lyrics, so on and so forth

And black moon was never backpack they were the eastcoast thug shit since day 1
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Ghostlaced your definition of backpack is off

who can you tell these ppl are more 'intelligent'? because they say 'big words'? which most of them dont?


I can tell you now that few of them are smarter then Jay-z, whom is fucking brilliant, or Nas, who is intelligent and despite the backpack movements strive to claim him has always been street/gangsta/or commercial rap
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Motherfuckers don't know what backpack is.

"Backpack" doesn't mean underground or conscious rap. Backpack rap is deeply rooted in graffiti culture young niggas, Artifacts are the ultimate backpack. The backpack is filled with tins, markers, records, not some encyclopedia shit.
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Motherfuckers don't know what backpack is.

"Backpack" doesn't mean underground or conscious rap. Backpack rap is deeply rooted in graffiti culture young niggas, Artifacts are the ultimate backpack. The backpack is filled with tins, markers, records, not some encyclopedia shit.
haha, yes very true. "Wrong Side of the Tracks" used to be one of my favorites too, i need to go back to that Artifacts album. looptroop got some dope songs repping the graffiti culture too

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Ghostlaced your definition of backpack is off

who can you tell these ppl are more 'intelligent'? because they say 'big words'? which most of them dont?


I can tell you now that few of them are smarter then Jay-z, whom is fucking brilliant, or Nas, who is intelligent and despite the backpack movements strive to claim him has always been street/gangsta/or commercial rap
you missed my point

like i already said back pack lyrics and content is about is varied as it can be (in the past)

i mean like people like talib and mos were more self aware than say mystikal or juvenile

back pack is just postmodernism in hip hop

sometimes ironic and self referential, and occasionally absurd (MF DOOM)

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thisviddeo, even though i thought it was pompous, is a great example of the emergence of postmodern thinkning in hip hop

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