Raekwon "Shaolin v.s. Wu-Tang" Review - Wu-Tang Corp. - Official Site of the Wu-Tang Clan

Jin10304 · 03-07-2011, 12:53 PM

The album incorporates many factors from CLII that made that album successful from the producers (Jones, Mathematics, Alchemist, B.T.) to the guest spots (Method Man, GZA/Genius, Ghostface Killah, Inspectah Deck, Busta Rhymes)

1. Shaolin v.s. Wu-Tang [SCRAM JONES] 2:30
2. Every Soldier In The Hood w/ Method Man [OH NO] 2:54
3. Silver Rings w/ Ghostface Killah [CILVARINGZ] 1:49
4. Chop Chop Ninja w/ Inspectah Deck & Estelle [BLUEROCKS] 4:25
5. Butter Knives [BRONZE NAZARETH] 2:48
6. Snake Pond [SELASI] 2:29
7. Crane Style w/ Busta Rhymes [SCRAM JONES] 1:55
8. Rock `N Roll w/ Ghostface Killah, Jim Jones & Kobe [DJ KHALIL] 5:40
9. Rich & Black w/ Nas [SEAN C & LV] 3:36
10. From The Hills w/ Method Man & Raheem DeVaughn [KENNY DOPE] 2:56
11. Last Train To Scotland w/ Lloyd Banks [SCRAM JONES] 2:43
12. Ferry Boat Killaz [ALCHEMIST] 2:01
13. Dart School [MATHEMATICS] 2:28
14. Molasses w/ Rick Ross & Ghostface Killah [XTREME] 4:13
15. The Scroll [EVIDENCE] 2:35
16. Masters Of Our Fates w/ Black Thought [TOMMY NOVA] 3:23
17. Wu-Chant (Outro) [TOMMY NOVA] 0:42
18. Wu-Crime w/ GZA/Genius & Killah Priest [B.T.] 3:00
19. Your World & My World w/ Havoc [HAVOC] 4:23

corky831 · 03-07-2011, 01:30 PM

y did u delete your other thread?....newayz i voted superior

deeznutz1981 · 03-07-2011, 01:36 PM

1. Shaolin v.s. Wu-Tang 4/5
2. Every Soldier In The Hood 4/5
3. Silver Rings w/ Ghostface Killah 5/5
4. Chop Chop Ninja 3.5/5
5. Butter Knives 5/5
6. Snake Pond 5/5
7. Crane Style 4/5
8. Rock `N Roll 2.5/5
9. Rich & Black 5/5
10. From The Hills 4/5
11. Last Train To Scotland 5/5
12. Ferry Boat Killaz 4/5
13. Dart School 4/5
14. Molasses 5/5
15. The Scroll 5/5
16. Masters Of Our Fates 5/5
17. Wu-Chant (Outro) 5/5

18. Wu-Crime w/ GZA/Genius & Killah Priest [B.T.]
19. Your World & My World w/ Mobb Deep [HAVOC]

Ghost In The 'Lac · 03-07-2011, 01:49 PM

I think its a cool as fuck album. Great follow up to CL2.

First of all the song titles are just crazy as fuck haha - Last Train to Scotland? Chop Chop Ninja? Butter Knives? Ferry Boat Killaz? Molasses? Damn son! Rae's still giving lessons in that.

Intro to Rich and Black is crazy, and even though this track doesnt live up to the ridiculous high standards of Nas/Rae collabos (the beat on the end of the song is far better than the actual one), Rae keeps up his record of getting the better of Nas when he's on the same track as him. (IMO).

"Bolivian connects restless, Chef ambidextrous" haha

Molasses carries faint memories of Ironman, and all the guest spots on this album were dope.

I wish Rae would make his hooks more obviously seperate from his verses like he used to though. Like on Molasses, he has a sick hook, but it doesnt stand out much because he doesnt change anything about his voice when speaking it.

Crane Style is creeping up on me the most right now. That beats crazy.

The sequencing of the album is off to me though - I wouldve put Masters Of Our Fate near the beggining, same with The Scroll. Rock N Roll just seems weird as fuck on this album, and putting it right in the middle, makes things even weirder. From The Hills shouldve also been closer to the start of the album. Coming in at track 10 just doesnt make sense for this song.

Ferry Boat Killaz and The Scroll just tell me Rae's next move needs to be an Alc/Ev album. Evidence slow flow would also blend real nice with Rae right now too.

(out of 5)

beautifulrock · 03-07-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost In The 'Lac

The sequencing of the album is off to me though - I wouldve put Masters Of Our Fate near the beggining, same with The Scroll.

INF · 03-07-2011, 03:06 PM

the scroll is perfect for where it is , at the end.

I voted Superior.

TAURO · 03-07-2011, 03:15 PM

Time will tell if it is considered a classic but it's definately at the higher end of superior.

Hollow Dartz · 03-07-2011, 03:19 PM

i can finally cop this shit tomorrow

Zhang Sanfeng · 03-07-2011, 04:57 PM

Superior.

Has a really smooth flow to the album, very Chef like....listening now and love it.

Cutmaster Cliff · 03-07-2011, 06:04 PM

I voted it to be a banger. Raekwon is a favorite and i'm still stuck on Built 4 Cuban Linx (the purple tape) i think he did real good on "Shaolin v.s. Wu-Tang" but it will never top Cuban Linx!

Jin10304 · 03-07-2011, 09:16 PM

corky i didn't, it was closed down for me

JehovAllah · 03-07-2011, 09:30 PM

i voted BANGER

trinking · 03-07-2011, 09:33 PM

superior..classic shouldnt even be an option at this point imo.

Jin10304 · 03-08-2011, 05:33 AM

"(the beat on the end of the song is far better than the actual one)"

Yeah that beat reminds me of some old RZA production from like 1997. Similar almost to "Presidential MC"

oleg · 03-08-2011, 12:13 PM

Classic!!!

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03-07-2011, 12:53 PM	#1
Jin10304 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,207 Rep Power: 21	Raekwon "Shaolin v.s. Wu-Tang" Review The album incorporates many factors from CLII that made that album successful from the producers (Jones, Mathematics, Alchemist, B.T.) to the guest spots (Method Man, GZA/Genius, Ghostface Killah, Inspectah Deck, Busta Rhymes) 1. Shaolin v.s. Wu-Tang [SCRAM JONES] 2:30 2. Every Soldier In The Hood w/ Method Man [OH NO] 2:54 3. Silver Rings w/ Ghostface Killah [CILVARINGZ] 1:49 4. Chop Chop Ninja w/ Inspectah Deck & Estelle [BLUEROCKS] 4:25 5. Butter Knives [BRONZE NAZARETH] 2:48 6. Snake Pond [SELASI] 2:29 7. Crane Style w/ Busta Rhymes [SCRAM JONES] 1:55 8. Rock `N Roll w/ Ghostface Killah, Jim Jones & Kobe [DJ KHALIL] 5:40 9. Rich & Black w/ Nas [SEAN C & LV] 3:36 10. From The Hills w/ Method Man & Raheem DeVaughn [KENNY DOPE] 2:56 11. Last Train To Scotland w/ Lloyd Banks [SCRAM JONES] 2:43 12. Ferry Boat Killaz [ALCHEMIST] 2:01 13. Dart School [MATHEMATICS] 2:28 14. Molasses w/ Rick Ross & Ghostface Killah [XTREME] 4:13 15. The Scroll [EVIDENCE] 2:35 16. Masters Of Our Fates w/ Black Thought [TOMMY NOVA] 3:23 17. Wu-Chant (Outro) [TOMMY NOVA] 0:42 18. Wu-Crime w/ GZA/Genius & Killah Priest [B.T.] 3:00 19. Your World & My World w/ Havoc [HAVOC] 4:23 Last edited by Jin10304; 03-18-2011 at 04:55 PM.

03-07-2011, 01:30 PM	#2
corky831 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: CT Posts: 2,865 Rep Power: 16	y did u delete your other thread?....newayz i voted superior __________________ I'm the Greatest Scientifically Inclined Mind Since Einstein!!!!

03-07-2011, 01:36 PM	#3
deeznutz1981 PRODIGAL SUN Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,574 Rep Power: 0	1. Shaolin v.s. Wu-Tang 4/5 2. Every Soldier In The Hood 4/5 3. Silver Rings w/ Ghostface Killah 5/5 4. Chop Chop Ninja 3.5/5 5. Butter Knives 5/5 6. Snake Pond 5/5 7. Crane Style 4/5 8. Rock `N Roll 2.5/5 9. Rich & Black 5/5 10. From The Hills 4/5 11. Last Train To Scotland 5/5 12. Ferry Boat Killaz 4/5 13. Dart School 4/5 14. Molasses 5/5 15. The Scroll 5/5 16. Masters Of Our Fates 5/5 17. Wu-Chant (Outro) 5/5 18. Wu-Crime w/ GZA/Genius & Killah Priest [B.T.] 19. Your World & My World w/ Mobb Deep [HAVOC] __________________

03-07-2011, 01:49 PM	#4
Ghost In The 'Lac crushed out heavenly Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 20,420 Rep Power: 65	I think its a cool as fuck album. Great follow up to CL2. First of all the song titles are just crazy as fuck haha - Last Train to Scotland? Chop Chop Ninja? Butter Knives? Ferry Boat Killaz? Molasses? Damn son! Rae's still giving lessons in that. Intro to Rich and Black is crazy, and even though this track doesnt live up to the ridiculous high standards of Nas/Rae collabos (the beat on the end of the song is far better than the actual one), Rae keeps up his record of getting the better of Nas when he's on the same track as him. (IMO). "Bolivian connects restless, Chef ambidextrous" haha Molasses carries faint memories of Ironman, and all the guest spots on this album were dope. I wish Rae would make his hooks more obviously seperate from his verses like he used to though. Like on Molasses, he has a sick hook, but it doesnt stand out much because he doesnt change anything about his voice when speaking it. Crane Style is creeping up on me the most right now. That beats crazy. The sequencing of the album is off to me though - I wouldve put Masters Of Our Fate near the beggining, same with The Scroll. Rock N Roll just seems weird as fuck on this album, and putting it right in the middle, makes things even weirder. From The Hills shouldve also been closer to the start of the album. Coming in at track 10 just doesnt make sense for this song. Ferry Boat Killaz and The Scroll just tell me Rae's next move needs to be an Alc/Ev album. Evidence slow flow would also blend real nice with Rae right now too. (out of 5) __________________ ....2m22s....... Last edited by Ghost In The 'Lac; 03-07-2011 at 01:51 PM.

03-07-2011, 03:06 PM	#6
INF Digital @fterLife 666 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: laughin and relaxin Age: 33 Posts: 20,062 Rep Power: 105	the scroll is perfect for where it is , at the end. I voted Superior. __________________ *The Digital @fterLife Bandcamp page* *http://www.reverbnation.com/theinf* *http://www.youtube.com/user/brix42* *@iLL_LAMBEER* *The INF on Facebook* http://soundcloud.com/thejesus42almighty

03-07-2011, 03:15 PM	#7
TAURO El Don of this shit Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the minds of women everywhere Age: 32 Posts: 16,084 Rep Power: 60	Time will tell if it is considered a classic but it's definately at the higher end of superior. __________________ "I pledge allegiance to the hip hop" Method Man

03-07-2011, 03:19 PM	#8
Hollow Dartz Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Philly Age: 23 Posts: 13,844 Rep Power: 0	i can finally cop this shit tomorrow

03-07-2011, 04:57 PM	#9
Zhang Sanfeng All.In.Together. Join Date: Feb 2011 Age: 36 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	Superior. Has a really smooth flow to the album, very Chef like....listening now and love it. __________________ Because men are weak, because their cursed with envy and cowardness,...because they can dream of truth, but cannot live with it...They doubt. They Doubt. The fools.

03-07-2011, 06:04 PM	#10
Cutmaster Cliff The GateKeeper Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bodymore,Murdaland Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	I voted it to be a banger. Raekwon is a favorite and i'm still stuck on Built 4 Cuban Linx (the purple tape) i think he did real good on "Shaolin v.s. Wu-Tang" but it will never top Cuban Linx!

03-07-2011, 09:16 PM	#11
Jin10304 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,207 Rep Power: 21	corky i didn't, it was closed down for me

03-07-2011, 09:30 PM	#12
JehovAllah -Skampoe- Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: I BE WHERE IM @ Age: 32 Posts: 42,946 Rep Power: 195	i voted BANGER __________________

03-07-2011, 09:33 PM	#13
trinking MaximumMason Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: south jersey/ philly / cmd Age: 28 Posts: 392 Rep Power: 11	superior..classic shouldnt even be an option at this point imo. __________________

03-08-2011, 05:33 AM	#14
Jin10304 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,207 Rep Power: 21	"(the beat on the end of the song is far better than the actual one)" Yeah that beat reminds me of some old RZA production from like 1997. Similar almost to "Presidential MC"

03-08-2011, 12:13 PM	#15
oleg Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 29 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Classic!!!

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