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Old 09-17-2011, 03:24 AM   #1
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Default Mandatory PS3 update removes right to join in a class-action lawsuit

Mandatory PS3 update removes right to join in a class-action lawsuit

By Ben Kuchera | Published about 18 hours ago
Sony has been hit with a number of class-action lawsuits since the launch of the PlayStation 3, mostly due to the decision to retroactively remove Linux support from the console and losing the data of users due to questionable security practices. Sony has another solution to this problem beyond beefing up security (and it's not retaining the features you paid for): if you accept the next mandatory system update, you sign away your ability to take part in a class-action lawsuit. The only option left for consumers if they agree is binding individual arbitration.
The Examiner caught the fine print in the latest system update, which states:
ANY DISPUTE RESOLUTION PROCEEDINGS, WHETHER IN ARBITRATION OR COURT, WILL BE CONDUCTED ONLY ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS AND NOT IN A CLASS OR REPRESENTATIVE ACTION OR AS A NAMED OR UNNAMED MEMBER IN A CLASS, CONSOLIDATED, REPRESENTATIVE OR PRIVATE ATTORNEY GENERAL LEGAL ACTION, UNLESS BOTH YOU AND THE SONY ENTITY WITH WHICH YOU HAVE A DISPUTE SPECIFICALLY AGREE TO DO SO IN WRITING FOLLOWING INITIATION OF THE ARBITRATION. THIS PROVISION DOES NOT PRECLUDE YOUR PARTICIPATION AS A MEMBER IN A CLASS ACTION FILED ON OR BEFORE AUGUST 20, 2011.
You can opt out of this by sending a letter to Sony, and if you go this route I would suggest you ask for signature upon delivery, track the letter, and keep records. All this will come in handy just in case Sony decides to claim the letter never arrived. Here's what you need to say, and where it needs to go:
IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO BE BOUND BY THE BINDING ARBITRATION AND CLASS ACTION WAIVER IN THIS SECTION 15, YOU MUST NOTIFY SNEI IN WRITING WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE DATE THAT YOU ACCEPT THIS AGREEMENT. YOUR WRITTEN NOTIFICATION MUST BE MAILED TO 6080 CENTER DRIVE, 10TH FLOOR, LOS ANGELES, CA 90045, ATTN: LEGAL DEPARTMENT/ARBITRATION AND MUST INCLUDE: (1) YOUR NAME, (2) YOUR ADDRESS, (3) YOUR PSN ACCOUNT NUMBER, IF YOU HAVE ONE, AND (4) A CLEAR STATEMENT THAT YOU DO NOT WISH TO RESOLVE DISPUTES WITH ANY SONY ENTITY THROUGH ARBITRATION.
There is no way to opt out of this electronically, because it's not in Sony's best interests to give you an easy way to do so. This bit of fine print will go unread by most gamers, which means they'll be signing away their rights to join in class-actions without even realizing what they've done. If you decide not to agree to the new agreement, you simply won't be able to play games online.




http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2...on-lawsuit.ars
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Old 09-17-2011, 09:49 AM   #2
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Old 09-17-2011, 09:56 AM   #3
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If you were sony, you would do the same thing.
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I don't see why people are making a big fuss over this, especially when you consider what EA have/had in their user agreement for their Steam rip off
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Old 09-17-2011, 01:49 PM   #5
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yea i already thought that @ el don
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lols

read about this on thehackernews yesterday.. lol is all i can say..

the southpark episode is class. but more disgusting than the movie its copying off..
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Sony sent me an email three days ago


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The first time you sign in to your PlayStation®Network account on or after September 15, 2011, you will be asked to enter into a new Terms of Service and User Agreement ("TOS") and Privacy Policy with SNEI if you wish to continue using your PlayStation®Network account. Please review all changes to the TOS and Privacy Policy carefully before indicating your agreement. In particular, please review Section 15 of the TOS, which now includes a class action waiver and requires that most disputes be resolved through arbitration.
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Working as a surgeon she bought a whip, and payed cash
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Since we out here, since they made reservations
For first Nations and they never made reparations
The Natives probably relate more to immigration
So this for y'all too, and I can't forget the Haitians
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I actually clicked through the TOS without reading the other day, before i found this news.

I just hope Sony doesnt sew the asshole of a Japanese man to my mouth
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I'm surprised they pointed it out really
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anyone had problems with PSN the last 24?
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It was down for a few hours last night (or the night before) if that's what you mean?
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It was down for a few hours last night (or the night before) if that's what you mean?

yep, thats it... but why was it down? anyone know?
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