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Old 10-27-2005, 11:55 PM   #16
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Peace Kephrem -^^
That really is on point.

Well said.
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:23 AM   #17
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[quote]IF people from thirld world countries were put in to american society they would probally hit the same glass ceiling that a lot of other ethnic people do when they try "function".[quote]

What makes you think they're "ethnic"?


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Remember, in western society, being a good citizen and functioning well has a lot to do with a person's financial, material, and democratic apirations.

Bullshit. You can be a good citizen and function well regardless of circumstance. The poor can't function or be good citizens? Really? It doesn't take money to live righteously.

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So, If a 3rd world person is truly civilized - (in my definition of the word). It is more than likely that they would be highly enlightened, peaceful, ambitous, but still poor (on the relative scale of American economics).

Why poor exactly? You can have dirt poor scumbags just as easily as you can have rich scumbags.

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Western civilization is infamous for using their religion, their war practices, advanced technology, and their mis-education as a way to dominate other people across the globe. This is savage behavior.


This is bullshit. Read the bible or the Koran. Were not Muslims and Jews using warfare and religion to take land? Was Ghengis Khan not a conquerer? Zulu? How did revolutionary communism spread? Did it not reach Vietnam and China and Korea? Were the japanese not Nazis? So really, you wanna talk about Western culture, look at every other culture. 9/10 times, you'll find that one is just as savage as the next.
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Old 10-28-2005, 01:21 AM   #18
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Ok. change the word ethnic to minority maybe that will make more sense.

I have already stated im previous posts that I feel the word "civilization " is relative to your own definition of it.

I also gave to point of views concerning that word.
1) western civilization' s definition of civilization
2) my definition of civilization

I think western civilization is fucked up. Any real enlightened person should not even want to be associated with this fucked up society.

And if a person really wants to be a good "citizen" in this society, that means they MUST conform to it.

As far as history goes, whatever country or people that follow western civilization's fucked up example are nothing more than tricks to this great prostitute, that we call Amereica (western civilization).

What ever way you wanna slice it Amereica is the pro at fucking other people.
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Old 10-28-2005, 01:35 AM   #19
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How about China, Japan, and North Korea, all experts and fucking people while NOT following Western examples?
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Old 10-28-2005, 01:39 AM   #20
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I'm watching George Carlin on HBO, and he just mentioned how the "Civil War" is an oxy-moron. "Hello, how are you? (gun shot sound), sorry about that"
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Old 10-28-2005, 09:48 AM   #21
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A civilized person is one who is not a savage in pursuit of happiness.

What/who is a savage? What is the pursuit of happiness?

Would that help in defining being civilized, or would it muddy the waters?

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Old 10-28-2005, 10:57 AM   #22
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Whats wrong with the pursuit of happiness?
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Old 10-28-2005, 11:40 AM   #23
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civilized is a huge word

and it aint pretty for the uncivilized
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Old 10-28-2005, 03:17 PM   #24
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Nothing is wrong with the pursuit of happiness...

but being a savage in the pursuit of happiness can be problematic.

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Old 10-28-2005, 03:31 PM   #25
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Old 10-28-2005, 04:28 PM   #26
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it's wrong to divide people into civilised and uncivilised people since that's an opinion created from ur own perpesctive on norms and values. No norm or value is absolutely true.
short answer but right answer.

CIVILised..

the word civil is what a group makes itself to be.. the "ised" describes ur part of that group..


uincivilised are the ones who arent part of that value tho.. thus the word has a right to exist.. but it also says that.. a uncivilised in cilviled somewhere else!
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The word "Civilization" also seems to describe the present Illusion that was set up contrary to nature.

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2. Not civilized: barbarian, barbaric, barbarous, primitive, rude, uncivilized, uncultivated, uncultured, wild. Archaic uncivil. See culture/nature, wild/tame.
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Old 10-29-2005, 07:54 AM   #28
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The word "Civilization" also seems to describe the present Illusion that was set up contrary to nature.

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2. Not civilized: barbarian, barbaric, barbarous, primitive, rude, uncivilized, uncultivated, uncultured, wild. Archaic uncivil. See culture/nature, wild/tame.
you are right.
sad to see this..


relates to the topic LHX put up about lies being taught from early on!

but fortunately we have grown out of the trap and seek the truth.
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Old 11-03-2005, 10:00 PM   #29
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A wise man learns to un-learn
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Old 11-04-2005, 08:16 AM   #30
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Examples of " What is 'Civilized'? " are the aboriginal peoples of the Americas, Africa, Asia.

Non-civilized examples are the people of Europe.
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