Vinnie Paz - God Of The Serengeti (Artwork+Tracklist) October 23

[Hollow Dartz]

Originally Posted by josborne3680

Yeah good point. He def has some Wu-ish track titles. N a little while back he listed like his top 50 MCs snd not one Wu member on it. Come on, man. Peace

He's just trying to hide the fact that he reversed engineered the Wu formula to create the VBD album, sounds like a straight Killa Bee album.....it was still a good lp, can't front

[josborne3680]

I remember the first time I heard VBD and was like damn this is very Sunz of Man like. VBD still sounds good today. JMT misses Stoupe. Peace

[Hollow Dartz]

yes they do.

[derek41]

VBD is a great album in my opinion. Stoupe was so sick as a producer and still is. He like Rza, Premo, and Pete Rock have that sound that is instantly recognizable and you know exactly who produced it. C-lance is a definitive step down and I thought their last album was decent at best. Vinnie is what he is, he was best on VBD and servants in heaven, but overall he is pretty one note. This album looks good though. Any new boom bap shit is good.

[Shadow Demon]

Lol @ heavens well said bro

dope artwork tracklist hope there's varied production like SoTA and not too many standard AOTP type beats



dope @ getting Trag on here dude is underrated and deserves more shine and hasnt got it since he got out

[Shadow Demon]

Originally Posted by Hollow Dartz

He's just trying to hide the fact that he reversed engineered the Wu formula to create the VBD album, sounds like a straight Killa Bee album.....it was still a good lp, can't front

LOL you trippin?

VBD was a very different album thematically and lyrically to Wu albums

VBD was a classic and some of Stoupe's beats are better than RZA's and it sure as hell was better than any Killa Bee's albums, hell i even prefer it to Enter the 36

no doubt Stoupe was influenced by RZA but he had his own sound and vibe

lyrically it was way more spaced out with more pseudo and religious themes

not all underground 90's rap had its outreach from wu lmao

i guess Heltah Skeltah Nocturnal was Wu too

[Meta4]

Have yet to get 'Season Of The Assassin' and not planning to get this either. Vinnie's banter raps are a disgrace to muslims the world over. I embrace him as a brother of Allah but will not embrace his hateful mentality. He's a very talented and capable artist and many of his songs display that. I find solice in Islam and hopefully he will too.

[Hollow Dartz]

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon

LOL you trippin?

VBD was a very different album thematically and lyrically to Wu albums

VBD was a classic and some of Stoupe's beats are better than RZA's and it sure as hell was better than any Killa Bee's albums, hell i even prefer it to Enter the 36

no doubt Stoupe was influenced by RZA but he had his own sound and vibe

lyrically it was way more spaced out with more pseudo and religious themes

not all underground 90's rap had its outreach from wu lmao

i guess Heltah Skeltah Nocturnal was Wu too

1st...Nobody mentioned Heltah Skeltah because beatminerz had their OWN sound, stop dickeating.

2nd...You still haven't mentioned SOUND, read my post, I said SOUND, not lyrically/thematically....please do the knowledge...EVERYTIME I throw this album in the whip and i'm driving around with my boys i get the same shit "Is this wu tang"...."nah this is jedi mind tricks"..."oh this sounds like some killa bee shit" lol there's no denying this, they reversed engineered the wu formula, stop dickeating. And nah this isn't better than the classic killa bee albums hahaha thats a joke, Paz alone stops it from being that

3rd....you sound butt hurt in your reply

[TheFunkyDrummer]

No Stoupe on this so no reason to be excited. People talk about Paz fell off but he never was that great, he's yelling the same crap over and over again I'm going to kill you.. we get it already.

He gets outshined by almost everyone he ever worked with and he got destroyed by the killabees Priest and also GZA. Jedi Mind Tricks was great because of Stoupe and Jus Allah came correct but he's wack right now. Last JMT related work was the wackest cause Stoupe wasnt on there to save it like always.

Someone post a track where Vinnie Paz destroys someone.. he's always the weaker link

[Shadow Demon]

Originally Posted by Hollow Dartz

1st...Nobody mentioned Heltah Skeltah because beatminerz had their OWN sound, stop dickeating.

2nd...You still haven't mentioned SOUND, read my post, I said SOUND, not lyrically/thematically....please do the knowledge...EVERYTIME I throw this album in the whip and i'm driving around with my boys i get the same shit "Is this wu tang"...."nah this is jedi mind tricks"..."oh this sounds like some killa bee shit" lol there's no denying this, they reversed engineered the wu formula, stop dickeating. And nah this isn't better than the classic killa bee albums hahaha thats a joke, Paz alone stops it from being that

3rd....you sound butt hurt in your reply

aite i agree i misread nah i aint butthurt but i dont see how VBD sounds sonically like Wu? i can see the influences but its a distinct sound to me e.g. some of the latino vibes used

[theheavens]

Vinnie Paz "God Of The Serengeti" Sticker on the set of "It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia" 10/22/12

[RADIOACTIVE MAN]

Vinnie Paz is that dude..I can listen to this guy a whole year and never get tired

[madchild]

Originally Posted by THE GENIUS

Someone post a track where Vinnie Paz destroys someone.. he's always the weaker link

http://ohhla.com/anonymous/jedimind/...enghis.jmt.txt

^ IMO he out-shined everyone on that song.



http://ohhla.com/anonymous/jedimind/...oodrun.jmt.txt

^ The way this verse is structured was original at the time. Vinnie has overplayed it in recent albums now, but it's kind of like a trademark now.



http://ohhla.com/anonymous/jedimind/...imal_r.jmt.txt

^ Although it's been stated many times that Kool G Rap came into the studio and wrote his 16s on the spot, I think Vinnie went harder on the beat.



http://ohhla.com/anonymous/jedimind/...avymtl.jmt.txt

^ Might be unfair that he had 2-to-1 verses, but I always can't wait until Ill Bill's verse ends. Not that his verse wasn't good, I just feel like he was out-shined on both of Paz's verses.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mic_Club:_The_Curriculum

^ This is arguable due to mic presence.



http://ohhla.com/anonymous/army_of/t...enry_8.arm.txt


There were other examples (a lot of songs w/ features on VBD) where his lyrics might not out-shine the features, but his mic presence definitely makes his verse stand out.

[madchild]

Originally Posted by Meta4

Have yet to get 'Season Of The Assassin' and not planning to get this either. Vinnie's banter raps are a disgrace to muslims the world over. I embrace him as a brother of Allah but will not embrace his hateful mentality. He's a very talented and capable artist and many of his songs display that. I find solice in Islam and hopefully he will too.

It's interesting to hear your point of view. Although I respect and understand what you're saying in regards to how Vinnie contradicts his religious views and practice, and how it seems that he only uses the religion for something to write about.

You must have a pretty limited hiphop playlist nowadays.

[Shadow Demon]

Originally Posted by Meta4

Have yet to get 'Season Of The Assassin' and not planning to get this either. Vinnie's banter raps are a disgrace to muslims the world over. I embrace him as a brother of Allah but will not embrace his hateful mentality. He's a very talented and capable artist and many of his songs display that. I find solice in Islam and hopefully he will too.

I agree with you

im not muslim but i do think post Psycho Social he turned ignorant

i love his music tho and i dont weigh in on his lyrics like that but i think most people have the common sense not to take his lyrics and views as truth