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Old 06-26-2005, 02:19 PM   #226
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jamal go get the boogie down productions album criminal minded and listen to the song SOUTH BRONX!!!
THAT WILL BE A NICE LITTLE HISTORY LESON FOR YOUR FOOLISH ASS!
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Old 06-26-2005, 03:41 PM   #227
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by the way,you also helped prove my point///

and that point is

what is an American mc??? what determines that you're an American mc??

how do u know that there are no better mcs from outside America who could migrate here and start killing it??

at the end of the day,dont look down on any other rap scene thats not in the states for u dont know the level of skill any mc in the world posses

i know french rappers and producers that could shame alotta mcs here today

even timbo and ykim been spoked on that shit

i wasn't denying the strength of foreign mc's...i was simply stating that hip-hop originated in america and i stand by that. i'm not even american, nor am i white.

"what is an American mc??? what determines that you're an American mc??"
if you're American and you're an MC, then you're an american mc, whether you be african-american, puerto rican-american, arab-american, chinese-american, etc.
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Old 06-26-2005, 04:47 PM   #228
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this thread started more rumors and beefs than i thought
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Old 06-26-2005, 05:02 PM   #229
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Old 06-26-2005, 05:23 PM   #231
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How does that take any value away from what I've said? I only said that the influence of the African culture outweighs the influence of the American culture. I' think KRS wouldn't disagree... It is much more likely that hip hop (or a similar 'way of life') might have been born in Africa, let's say in Johannisburg, than in the South Bronx or Jamaica without slavery!

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Old 06-26-2005, 06:08 PM   #232
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SOUTH BRONX!!! SOUTH SOUTH BRONX!
SOUTH BRONX!!! SOUTH SOUTH BRONX!

save all that coulda would shit!
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Old 06-26-2005, 06:28 PM   #233
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Old 06-26-2005, 07:37 PM   #234
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SOUTH BRONX!!! SOUTH SOUTH BRONX!
SOUTH BRONX!!! SOUTH SOUTH BRONX!

save all that coulda would shit!
I give credit to the Americans for their big contribution in realising the technology to produce hip hop music. That's basically it. Their other big contribution to the development of hip hop is the oppression of people of African heritage.

Also, I just started to read the beginning of this shit pile of a thread. And I would have to agree with that one guy from Romania who said America doesn't even have a culture. These 230 years (...actually, every second building or park around me is older than that...) are nothing compared to the influence of thousands of years of European, African and Asian culture in your great country. American cultures are those of the Maya, Inca, Aztecs...

However, Fuck Europe, Fuck America and Fuck You!

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Old 06-26-2005, 10:39 PM   #236
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I give credit to the Americans for their big contribution in realising the technology to produce hip hop music. That's basically it. Their other big contribution to the development of hip hop is the oppression of people of African heritage.

Also, I just started to read the beginning of this shit pile of a thread. And I would have to agree with that one guy from Romania who said America doesn't even have a culture. These 230 years (...actually, every second building or park around me is older than that...) are nothing compared to the influence of thousands of years of European, African and Asian culture in your great country. American cultures are those of the Maya, Inca, Aztecs...

However, Fuck Europe, Fuck America and Fuck You!

Peace.
o fuck off ay.

did the first people out of africa go to anyplace after some time had passed and be like "fuck is this, you dont have a culture, shit we been around, unlike you newbies".

that is the dumbest shit i ever heard. just because our country is only a couple hundred years old doesnt mean we dont things to call our own.

all places had to start someplace.


and the mayas and incas and all that, idk about that. got nothin to do with us. we either killed them or tryed to morph them into america, how could we morph them into something which isnt there? (and i definatly do not agree with it, but thats just how it happend).
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how the fuck you gonna say we don't have any culture? what kinda shit is that son? I lost some respect for you
I think he means since America's ancestors were Euroupean...essentially there is no such thing as a pure homogenious American "culture".

That's all
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Old 06-26-2005, 10:48 PM   #238
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Titles a little too harsh espeically with the shits thats goin on in da world..but the track itself is pretty tight
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there is slavary opression and rasism all over the world on every square inch of it. slavery is still going on is some parts of the world so what are you saing. and i hope your not from england talking like that.

same old story. yes hip-hop spread all over the world but it has a home. yall just don't wann hear that. every time it's said yall get mad. yall get mad at the truth. like i don't have a right to say hip-hop started in america, like im telling a lie.

shado i don't know what slick comet your talkin about cause your not slik

but what has been ignored is this verse that none of yall have a coment for. ima call this the invisible verse.
answer this!!!!!

who the fuck knocked OUR buildings down?/who da man behind the world trade masicare step up now/were them 4 plains at U.S.A.bitch/fly that shit over MY hood and get blown to bits/no disrespect thats were I REST MY HEAD/i understand you gotta rest yours to nigga/MY PEOPLSE DEAD/AMERICA UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL/mister bush sit down im in charge of the war!!!"
Thank you!!

Latin Americans actually constituted the largest percentage of those enslaved. It was other peoples that were are large part of this too. Slavery has a much larger "international" foundation than most are aware of.....

Therefore

Struggle and by extension, Hip-Hop- the language of struggle, is universal. We are connected definitely by the past, as well as the present.

Oh yeah, fuck the kkk

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Old 06-27-2005, 01:00 AM   #240
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Nobody I know in America smiles when people in other countries die. I have travelled quite a bit, and what I see is, that for the most part, all countries are run by power hungry individuals who would do almost anything to get what they want. It's the whole world that's crazy, the USA just has bigger guns right now. That will undoubtedly change one day, as all "empires" have fallen. The history of the world, as I know it, is full of political lies, nations conquering nations, and war. Unfortunately, that just seems to be the way things have always been. If your country has not taken over someone by force, or censored media to sway the people, they might one day. America is not the "we've never done anything wrong nation" that most foreigners seem to think we are. George Bush may be a less than desirable leader, but look at the exact same things happening all over the globe right now, just on a smaller scale. I think of America like a brother, who may piss you off and head down the wrong path, but whom you still love and would die for. In conclusion Cilva, I recognize that there are some facts in your lyrics, but it's the feeling that's all wrong to me. Peace to everybody would be great, but one punch leads to another that leads to another. The human beings that flew into the towers, or who enjoy the reaction to the death of innocents are not helping, but only continuing to make things worse. Just my opinion, but I'd like to think that everyone on this board has more in common than they think. One.


ps Michael Moore is a perfect example of someone trying to control peoples minds through the media. He shows facts, yes, but edits and twists them to extremes, sometimes distorting the original context, when the truth was probably enough. Just please research his history and present, before labelling him a "good" American. We need more truth, and less spindoctors.
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