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Old 11-24-2015, 08:41 AM   #1
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The shit is about to get real, tensions are high. I don't think WW3 style would happen though the western world would do what it can to stop that

Turkey downs Russian warplane near Syria border, Moscow denies airspace violation

By Tulay Karadeniz and Maria Kiselyova

ANKARA/MOSCOW (Reuters) - Turkish fighter jets shot down a Russian warplane near the Syrian border on Tuesday after repeated warnings over air space violations, but Moscow said it could prove the jet had not left Syrian air space.

It was the first time a NATO member's armed forces have downed a Russian or Soviet military aircraft since the 1950s and Russian and Turkish assets fell on fears of an escalation between the former Cold War enemies.

A Kremlin spokesman said it was a "very serious incident" but that it was too early to draw conclusions.

Footage from private Turkish broadcaster Haberturk TV showed the warplane going down in flames in a woodland area, a long plume of smoke trailing behind it. The plane went down in area known by Turks as "Turkmen Mountain", it said.

Separate footage from Turkey's Anadolu Agency showed two pilots parachuting out of the jet before it crashed. A Syrian rebel group sent a video to Reuters that appeared to show one of the pilots immobile and badly wounded on the ground and an official from the group said he was dead.

Russia's defense ministry said one of its Su-24 fighter jets had been downed in Syria and that, according to preliminary information, the pilots were able to eject. It said the aircraft had been over Syria for the duration of its flight.

The Turkish military said the aircraft had been warned 10 times in the space of five minutes about violating Turkish airspace. Officials said a second plane had also approached the border and been warned.

"The data we have is very clear. There were two planes approaching our border, we warned them as they were getting too close," a senior Turkish official told Reuters.

"We warned them to avoid entering Turkish airspace before they did, and we warned them many times. Our findings show clearly that Turkish airspace was violated multiple times. And they violated it knowingly," the official said.

A second official said the incident was not an action against any specific country but a move to defend Turkey's sovereign territory within its rules of engagement.

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Russia's decision to launch separate air strikes in Syria mean Russian and NATO planes have been flying combat missions in the same air space for the first time since World War Two, targeting various insurgent groups close to Turkish borders.

The downing of the jet appeared to scupper hopes of a rapprochement between Russia and the West in the wake of the Islamic State attacks in Paris, which led to calls for a united front against the radical jihadist group in Syria.

Russia's main stock index fell more than two percent, while Turkish stocks fell 1.3 percent. Both the rouble and lira were weaker.

Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan was briefed by the head of the military, while Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu ordered consultations with NATO, the United Nations and related countries, their respective offices said.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights monitoring group said the warplane crashed in a mountainous area in the northern countryside of Latakia province, where there had been aerial bombardment earlier and where pro-government forces have been battling insurgents on the ground.

"A Russian pilot," a voice is heard saying in the video sent to Reuters as men gather around the man on the ground. "God is great," is also heard.

The rebel group that sent the video operates in the northwestern area of Syria, where groups including the Free Syrian Army are active but Islamic State, which has beheaded captives in the past, has no known presence.

The official from the group, who declined to be named for security reasons, did not mention the second Russian pilot.

Broadcaster CNN Turk earlier reported that one of the pilots was in the hands of Turkmen forces in Syria who were looking for the other one, citing local sources. Russian military helicopters were also searching for the pilots, Turkey's Dogan news agency said.

Both Russia and its ally, Syria's government, have carried out strikes in the area. A Syrian military source said the reported downing was being investigated.

Turkey called this week for a U.N. Security Council meeting to discuss attacks on Turkmens in neighboring Syria, and last week Ankara summoned the Russian ambassador to protest the bombing of their villages.

Ankara has traditionally expressed solidarity with Syrian Turkmens, who are Syrians of Turkish descent.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov is due to visit Turkey on Wednesday to discuss Syria, in a trip arranged before this incident. Erdogan is meanwhile expected to visit Russia for talks with Putin in late December.

About 1,700 people have fled the mountainous Syrian area near to the Turkish border as a result of fighting in the last three days, a Turkish official said on Monday. Russian jets have bombed the area in support of ground operations by Syrian government forces.

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GRAPHIC: Russian Su-24 pilot surrounded by armed rebels, allegedly dead

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Old 11-24-2015, 02:39 PM   #5
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This was bound to happen after all Russia is the old enemy for us. Over the past couple of days the Russians have been bombing Turkmen positions in Iraq, this has caused an outcry in Turkey. So its no surprise that at the slightest airspace violation by a Russian jet the Turks shot it down. Trigger happy yes but under international law Turkey had the right, especially as this wasn't the first incident, Russian military chiefs were briefed in Ankara but it seems they didn't listen. Russia violates everyones airspace so its no surprise, they could deny all they want. Turkey wouldn't shoot down something that didn't enter its airspace, it doesn't have the balls.

Putin and Erdogan are best of friends though, they are very much alike. So its weird that these two autocrats came to blows so quickly over Syria which is pretty much an irrelevant nation.

As to the oil smuggling, Turkeys border have always been porous. Turkey can't stop hundreds of PKK members crossing in from Iraq, they can't stop the heroin and gun smuggling. Theres a low chance that they could stop the oil smuggling from Syria. Calling Turkey a country aiding terrorism is a bit rich coming from the Russians. ISIS openly threatens the concept of Turkey. The government could turn a blind eye to some of their activities but when the time comes ISIS and Turkey will undoubtedly clash, the people in Turkey will demand it.

The two countries will probably end a lot of economic deals, the $20billion nuclear reactor deal, the southern stream pipeline project etc etc. Russia could cut the gas supply to Turkey. Basically going back to its relations before the Putin and Erdogan.
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Russia should bomb Turkey !

Turkey/Erdoğan is acting like a snake. They claim they are allies but they do nothing to help against ISIS. IMO.....Turkey are nothing more than Muslim spies within the western ranks.
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It's strange how western people fear ISIS but it's the Arabs in the Middle East that are suffering at the hands of ISIS.

"Turkey do nothing to help" well if the American's didn't train them and the Saudi's didn't fund them there would be nothing to stop.
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I'm betting there would still be some Jihadists, just not very well organized and capable without the excessive funding.
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Oh no doubt. There will always be a rogue element of extremists of any kind but the funding and training these guys had puts them in to a dangerous territory that has influence. The KKK is mostly irrelevant but if they had the backing like Isis they would be different.
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I just read one of the pilots survived this after all. he declared on Russian tv that the plane had received no warning from the Turks (who claim they sent about 10 warnings) and that the plane hadn't even violated Turkish airspace

hard to say who's telling the truth here, but it seems likely the Russian pilot was coached a bit for his TV performance
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Hold your horses man.

If they retaliate, that response won't be a military one. We'll see...
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Turkey/Erdoğan is acting like a snake. They claim they are allies but they do nothing to help against ISIS. IMO.....Turkey are nothing more than Muslim spies within the western ranks.
Oh look at the "turn the other cheek" guy speak!
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If they retaliate, that response won't be a military one. We'll see...
They might start bombing the Turkman in Syria, who are fighting Assad. They where the same dude's, who killed one of the pilots and blew up one of Russian rescue helicopters (killing another soldier). ?
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Turkey have been doing some sneaky stuff as well though - using the Syrian war and war on ISIS to further their fight with the PKK and forcing back any hope of Kurdish independence - in the beginning of the current conflict anyway, I haven't been keeping up with it since.
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Lol, nope its still going on

http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...rder-shelters/
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