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Old 02-18-2013, 10:27 PM   #1
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Default Is the UK a more violent place to live than the US?

-The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S.


Britain's violent crime record is worse than any other country in the European union, it has been revealed.

Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries.

The figures comes on the day Home Secretary Alan Johnson makes a major speech on crime, promising to be tough on loutish behaviour.

The Tories said Labour had presided over a decade of spiralling violence.

In the decade following the party's election in 1997, the number of recorded violent attacks soared by 77 per cent to 1.158million - or more than two every minute.

The figures, compiled from reports released by the European Commission and United Nations, also show:

-The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.

-It has a higher homicide rate than most of our western European neighbours, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain.

-The UK has the fifth highest robbery rate in the EU.

-It has the fourth highest burglary rate and the highest absolute number of burglaries in the EU, with double the number of offences than recorded in Germany and France.

But it is the naming of Britain as the most violent country in the EU that is most shocking. The analysis is based on the number of crimes per 100,000 residents.

In the UK, there are 2,034 offences per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1,677.

The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents,
Canada 935, Australia 92 and South Africa 1,609.

Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling said: 'This is a damning indictment of this government's comprehensive failure over more than a decade to tackle the deep rooted social problems in our society, and the knock on effect on crime and anti-social behaviour.

Experts say there are a number of reasons why violence is soaring in the UK. These include Labour's decision to relax the licensing laws to allow round-the-clock opening, which has led to a rise in the number of serious assaults taking place in the early hours of the morning.



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Old 02-18-2013, 10:46 PM   #2
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The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents,
Canada 935, Australia 92 and South Africa 1,609.
Uh..this does not seem right.

And if you look at your chart, it looks strange at No. 4.

Where is your link to this info?
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:53 PM   #3
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Daily mail, I don't know how regarded this paper is in the UK? lol It looks like it's a few years old.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...frica-U-S.html
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:55 PM   #4
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number 4 looks strange?
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Well, bloody hell! you limies nearly kill eachother every time some one mentions a football team thats not your own; or every time your team loses a game. Go chelsy. I seen all those statham movies you all need anger management. I think its caused from the feeling of inadiquitsy for US having to bail you out during WW2. yeah sure less violance, we just make a big deal out of what we got. We find violance entertaining, is all. Our violance is caused by the fear the gov. Shuvess down our throats; your is becouse of the whole castration thing.
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number 4 looks strange?
Miscoloured, like it was typed over.
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Daily mail, I don't know how regarded this paper is in the UK? lol
it isnt. its an entertainment rag

and also

fuck stats

aint nobody seen the wire?
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But criminologists say crime figures can be affected by many factors, including different criminal justice systems and differences in how crime is reported and measured.

In Britain, an affray is considered a violent crime, while in other countries it will only be logged if a person is physically injured.

There are also degrees of violence. While the UK ranks above South Africa for all violent crime, South Africans suffer more than 20,000 murders each year - compared with Britain's 921 in 2007

yeah, article is nearly 4 years old. All countries have problems though!
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It's called the Daily Fail for a reason.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:20 AM   #10
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But criminologists say crime figures can be affected by many factors, including different criminal justice systems and differences in how crime is reported and measured.

In Britain, an affray is considered a violent crime, while in other countries it will only be logged if a person is physically injured.

There are also degrees of violence. While the UK ranks above South Africa for all violent crime, South Africans suffer more than 20,000 murders each year - compared with Britain's 921 in 2007

yeah, article is nearly 4 years old. All countries have problems though!
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I just thought it meant a fight!

A person is guilty of affray if he uses or threatens unlawful violence towards another and his conduct is such as would cause a person of reasonable firmness present at the scene to fear for his personal safety.
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It's called the Daily Fail for a reason.

this,

its one of the most unreliable newspapers, just tabloid bullshit,

all the tabloids do are spread fear (with no basis), polarize and divide people,
get people blaming others (mainly due to the low intellect of its readers)

if fox news had a newspaper....

wait.. if newscorp had a tabloid.. oh wait.. they do
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this,

its one of the most unreliable newspapers, just tabloid bullshit,

all the tabloids do are spread fear (with no basis), polarize and divide people,
get people blaming others (mainly due to the low intellect of its readers)

if fox news had a newspaper....

wait.. if newscorp had a tabloid.. oh wait.. they do
the irony is that you are EXACTLY the same as Fox News.

You take half-truths and bastardize them and dumb them down for the consumption of stupid, unhappy people, add a touch 0f fear-mongering, a dash of paranoia, and a shitload of self-righteousness to presenting an overly-simplistic orchestra of lies to appeal to a certain target.
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the irony is that you are EXACTLY the same as Fox News. examples??

You take half-truths and bastardize examples?? them and dumb them down for the consumption of stupid, unhappy people, add a touch 0f fear-mongering, ??? enough slander.. show and prove.a dash of paranoia,??? and a shitload of self-righteousness ???? to presenting an overly-simplistic orchestra of lies to appeal to a certain target.

lulz,

i thought we actually had gotten somewhere in teh dorner thread..

but i guess its better to slander with no proof,, yes ive asked u before.. what u base that shit off.. so dan.. shoot again! and please dont use posts of mine when i obviously am being sarcastic as proof.

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