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Old 04-14-2013, 06:14 PM   #61
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no fucking way 8D is better! Iron Flag is loaded with bangers has maybe two weak tracks and no mention of Justin Timberlake
the beats on iron flag are weak. 8 diagrams isn't all that much better, but at least it's unique in a way. I've only given iron flag one full spin and don't intend to give it another one.

but I don't care about those two disappointments anymore. I just want the new album to be good, but I think they need other producers.

I don't trust RZA anymore. Black Mozart and New Wu off CL2 were bangers, but he had no beats on shaolin vs. wu-tang, and yet his own pupil gave Rae a dope ass beat (Silver Rings). he gave Wu-Massacre one decent beat (Our Dreams) and I think he had one mediocre beat on Pro Tools. and when was the last time he gave Ghost a beat, Pretty Toney Album??
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Old 04-14-2013, 06:56 PM   #62
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yea but he gave kweli busta and nas a ton of beats for free

maybe its not his fault
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Old 04-14-2013, 07:08 PM   #63
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remember when Cilva said some Generals hated the beats for his project and called them "dark funeral Music"?

THEY'RE the problem
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Old 04-15-2013, 04:43 AM   #64
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Yes, most of them have a shitty ear for beats.
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:41 AM   #65
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Yeah I wouldn't mind a mix of Wu producers on the next LP
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Old 04-15-2013, 11:58 AM   #66
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the beats on iron flag are weak. 8 diagrams isn't all that much better, but at least it's unique in a way. I've only given iron flag one full spin and don't intend to give it another one.

but I don't care about those two disappointments anymore. I just want the new album to be good, but I think they need other producers.

I don't trust RZA anymore. Black Mozart and New Wu off CL2 were bangers, but he had no beats on shaolin vs. wu-tang, and yet his own pupil gave Rae a dope ass beat (Silver Rings). he gave Wu-Massacre one decent beat (Our Dreams) and I think he had one mediocre beat on Pro Tools. and when was the last time he gave Ghost a beat, Pretty Toney Album??
What beat was wack on Iron flag? I don't even hate 8D but I think it's universally looked at as the weakest Lp
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:42 PM   #67
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What beat was wack on Iron flag? I don't even hate 8D but I think it's universally looked at as the weakest Lp
I would argue that "Dashing" was the wackest beat ever to appear on a Wu album.
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Old 04-15-2013, 01:49 PM   #68
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iron flag is divided between excellent songs and horrible songs while 8 diagrams is overall underwhelming and average with less music that is totally bad but also very little music thats absolutely great.
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Beats on Iron Flag are fuckin wack for real
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:37 PM   #71
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I enjoy that a thread about their new album is dominated by talk of how shitty previous albums/tracks were.

At this point, if fans on here can't really be bothered checking this out, who is going to?

I guess like most people here i'll download this and play it once or twice for old times' sake.
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I enjoy that a thread about their new album is dominated by talk of how shitty previous albums/tracks were.

At this point, if fans on here can't really be bothered checking this out, who is going to?

I guess like most people here i'll download this and play it once or twice for old times' sake.
Not buying a Wu album is not an option. My collection of Wu cd's is fucking epic and I'm quite proud of it.
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Old 04-15-2013, 04:02 PM   #73
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I enjoy that a thread about their new album is dominated by talk of how shitty previous albums/tracks were.

At this point, if fans on here can't really be bothered checking this out, who is going to?

I guess like most people here i'll download this and play it once or twice for old times' sake.
There are a plenty of Wu fans out there who aren't on this forum. When it comes to this forum, the word 'fans' can only be used loosely because many people spend more time complaining about the Wu.
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Old 04-15-2013, 04:40 PM   #74
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yea, id imagine most fans would. and i doubt they would miss your 1 purchase
why not quote everything I said, and answer everything I said

my point was - they are not good enough for me, the last album was boring, most of their solos after 2007 are their worst moments since they started rapping.... new exciting people coming into the game
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Old 04-15-2013, 04:50 PM   #75
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WRONG.

People, such as myself, will be disappointed if it is just some thrown together, un-cohesive album with cut and paste verses and no focus, kinda like 8 Diagrams was....

However, if it's like the first 2 albums, then most ppl will enjoy it.
THIS.

And 8 Diagrams was a promising name for an album too. That doesn't make it necessarly good, or significant. I'm afraid they could get really preachy on this album, especially RZA. I hate RZAs parts on the new Ghost video.
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