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Old 04-25-2013, 02:25 PM   #16
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that's because rap fans SUCK

they don't know their history. rock & roll fans still listen to fucking Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin, and rap fans don't even know who eric B. & rakim were. WTF

Its not necessary to learn the history of music to enjoy new music. If you're a big enough fan of the music you'd research it and find out more naturally. Its not a responsibility.

And rock n roll fans have to listen to pink floyd and led zep because nobody makes rock and roll anymore except old bands rehashing their old stuff into lesser versions of themselves.
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Old 04-26-2013, 06:39 AM   #17
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Yeah rap veterans are different than rock veterans for whatever reason. If Kool G Rap came and made a solid new album, it wouldn't sell for shit guaranteed. On the other hand, if Black Sabbath reunites and releases a new album, it'll sell comfortably. Different markets I guess.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:57 AM   #18
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I think 15k is a solid number for an artist who's been out for almost 20 years. Obviously if this album came out in '97, it does way better than that. I went to two stores last week to buy the album and nobody had it in stock. We'll see if Tyler can sell 89k first week album sales 17 years from now.
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:42 AM   #19
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that's because rap fans SUCK

they don't know their history. rock & roll fans still listen to fucking Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin, and rap fans don't even know who eric B. & rakim were. WTF

Hahahahaha. This is the truth
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Its not necessary to learn the history of music to enjoy new music. If you're a big enough fan of the music you'd research it and find out more naturally. Its not a responsibility.
no one will look for something they dont know exists. kids today wouldnt know wu-tang from orange tang.

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And rock n roll fans have to listen to pink floyd and led zep because nobody makes rock and roll anymore except old bands rehashing their old stuff into lesser versions of themselves.
nevertheless the music is passed on to the next generation. rap hasnt done that. there's a disconnect. that disconnect can be attributed to classic artists spending most of their energy hating on new artists.
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Old 04-26-2013, 12:37 PM   #21
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no one will look for something they dont know exists. kids today wouldnt know wu-tang from orange tang.
Well wu-tang should make some music that isnt 15 years out of date, then maybe they can reach the 'kids'.

Wu-tang is a big part of modern hip hop in terms of influence on the new generation though, you dont have to look hard to see it.

When you were young didnt you like certain music, and that made you check out other stuff that you thought was similar? Do you think thats unique to one generation of music fans?
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Old 04-26-2013, 01:20 PM   #22
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the top selling rap artists of today exhibit 0 wu influence in their music. kids arent going to listen to wu unless someone outside of the machine exposes them to it. if you dont sound like nikki minaj or lil wayne you gets no love.

15k is damn good for an obscure project with very little promo or hype.
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ROFL NOT A BIG FAN OF 12 REASONS BUT 12 REASONS IS A LIL DOPE WHERE TYLERS ALBUMS ARE GARBAGE
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Wolf is horrible , 12rtd shits all over that album and deserves if not the same shine possible better.

I bought a copy of 12rtd on on wax on record store day , I didnt see any copies of Wolf there.

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WIZARD OF POETRY>>>> ANY ODD FUTURE PROJECTS PAST OR PRESEnT
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you old cynic haha

Some of them though, like kanye west, rick ross etc. you always hear rappers namecheck wu, then theres rappers like childish gambino, lupe fiasco that are in the mainstream to a lesser degree.
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:49 PM   #25
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According to Sinfullycute this album sold 15k because of Killa Sin.
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you old cynic haha

Some of them though, like kanye west, rick ross etc. you always hear rappers namecheck wu, then theres rappers like childish gambino, lupe fiasco that are in the mainstream to a lesser degree.

YOUR A FAG CAUSE U LISTEN TO CHILDISH GAMBiNO AND LUPE
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not really. i've heard a few songs enough to know their on rzas dick.

gambino is kind of lame and biting kanye west like a muh.
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:23 PM   #28
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according to sinfullycute this album sold 15k because of killa sin.
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not really. i've heard a few songs enough to know their on rzas dick.

gambino is kind of lame and biting kanye west like a muh.
KANYE>> TyLER
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Exactly. Goblin sucks, it's ignorant and sounds like music made for/by 12 year old rich kids.
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