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Old 07-04-2013, 08:32 PM   #16
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Have you ever wondered why the zodiac signs and their corresponding planets were changed? Who had the gall to change them and why? The ancients to me seem to have been on point. Maybe somebody doesnt want us to know the correct connections...?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_astrology answers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enuma_Anu_Enlil


Falcon thanks for pointing me to this http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaldean_mythology

My crazy theories don't seem so crazy now.
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Old 07-08-2013, 03:38 PM   #18
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I'm going to write some things as they come to me and see where it goes. I'm not saying it will be the final say on all this but I'll see if I can piece some things together as I go.

If I'm after a Celestial Luminaries/Chakra System correspondence I'm running with the Chaldean order, which goes like this.

Saturn
Jupiter
Mars
Sun
Venus
Mercury
Moon

Which means:

Saturn - Crown
Jupiter - 3rd Eye
Mars - Throat
Sun - Heart
Venus - Solar Plexus
Mercury - Sacral
Moon - Base

The reason I would run with the Chaldean is mainly because it compliments the Tree of Life in its correspondence, i.e.

Amen/Ain Soph (0 sphere, that which is beyond) Ausar/Kether (1st sphere) and Tehuti/Chokma (2nd sphere) have no corresponding Luminary traditionally. Although the second sphere is said to correspond with the Zodiac. (which we will look at in a bit)

Saturn is Sekher/Binah (3rd sphere)
Jupiter is Maat/Chesed (4th sphere)
Mars is Herukhuti/Gebarah (5th sphere)
Sun is Heru/Tiphereth (6th sphere)
Venus is Het Heru/Netzach (7th sphere)
Mercury is Sebek/Hod (8th sphere)
Moon is Auset/Yesod (9th sphere)

Earth/Geb/Malkuth (10th sphere) lies below.

The Zodiac and their corresponding body section and Luminary ruler.

Aries - The Head - Mars
Taurus - The Neck - Venus
Gemini - Arms, Shoulders - Mercury
Cancer - Chest - Moon
Leo - The Heart - Sun
Virgo - Digestive system - Mercury
Libra - Kidneys - Venus
Scorpio - Reproductive system - Mars (Pluto in the Modern)
Sagittarius - Hips, Thighs - Jupiter
Capricorn - Knees - Saturn
Aquarius - Ankles - Saturn (Uranus in the Modern)
Pisces - Feet - Jupiter (Neptune in the Modern)

That is a very basic over view of the Zodiacal correspondence and I'm thinking that it should only be applied to the physical (in traditional sense of the word) body.

One thing that I will point out is that in all those systems (even the one you posted Lord) is that the Heart corresponds with the Sun. So I will address why I agree with that.

The Sun is the Heart/middle of the Solar System. The Heart/Sun sits in middle of the Chakra system and the Tree of Life system. The Chaldean planetary order has the Sun in the middle and in the Zodiacal correspondence the Sun rules Leo which rules the heart (this is where the term "Lionheart" comes from).

Again it must be understood that the other Luminaries receive their power from the Sun. The Suns electromagnetic spectrum is "filtered" (for lack of a better word) through the particular Luminary to bring forth a particular archetypal energy.

This same process happens in the Human Being. When the hearts electromagnetic field (which is much stronger than the brains which aligns with the Sun/Heart correspondence) is filtered through the different chakra centres.

It helps to think of things less Hierarchically. Hierarchy doesn't really exist when it comes to a properly functioning, living system like the universe and the microcosmic systems there in.

Many people think about the Chakra system or the Tree of Life system as way to raise from the lower to the higher. The point though is to have consciousness emanate all the so-called levels of existence. Degrees have no superiority of importance because if any one of them is forgotten then the whole ceases to exist.

In the same way the Heart powers the human Chakra system like the Sun powers the Solar system.

Witness the poetry of this macrocosmic/microcosmic marriage.

The Sun's light is taken in by the Trees through photosynthesis during the process of which oxygen is released. We breath that oxygen (sunlight!) into us which ignites our inner sun, our heart, which then sends the sunlight through out the rest of the physical body. I suspect this happens in some way or another on a deeper level with the chakra system and electromagnetism.

This to me is Yahweh (The Sun) breathing into man the breath of life which is sustained for us by the Tree's (Tree of Life which sustained all life in the Garden of Earth i.e. the MIDGARD, MIDDLE GARDEN, THE HEART!)

I'm probably digressing here. I'll stop before this post gets out of hand and come back to it later on.
i'm trying to get into a better mind state before i build further on this
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"""Gods who are in Pluto's realm include: Charon, Hades, Isis, Kerberos, Lucifer & Osiris.





Pluto energy is in harmony with the Crown Chakra and it might surprise some, since Pluto is apparently looking rather gloomy & dark in its energy.



Pluto is related to everything what is going on beneath the surface, "underground", all the covert, all that secret.


And now Pluto is actually a symbol of Hades & the Underworld, the darkest part of the crust sphere. Pluto symbolizes death & resurrection. Its connection to the crown center is through the lower part of the crown chakra, which has a direct connection to the root chakra & Harachakraet, the lower energy part, which sleep in the dark & "death", but can be awakened to the resurrection and ascend to the halo-like portion of the Crown Chakra .


Because everything has a duality, a dark & a light side, yin & yang. Pluto is the dark divine part, also called Lucifer (The Light & The Sun god who chose to trust his own brain, rather than the spiritual brain) - he will becomes whole again when he unites with his duality called Christ).


Pluto symbolizes the slumbering lower mind, which dwells in darkness and who must undergo a decomposition & purification to get to dwell in the light.


The Crown chakra is said to split into 2 parts. The part where the human brain is & the part where the spiritual brain is. If you solely guided by your human brain, there will always be a risk that you fall in the "black" pitfalls.



If you strive for balance between the physical brain & the spiritual brain, the Crown Chakra become whole and the halo will turn on and shine brightly in the dark!""""








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Pluto ruling Scorpio makes sense to me. I think it has less to do with a planet's size and more about the symbols and meanings and why they were applied to a planet -- even though Pluto is no longer considered a planet by scientist anymore.Edgar Cayce who gave over 10,000 readings who is estimated to have an accuracy rate in the ninty percentile range spoke of the planets representing other dimenions, and how we actually incarnate on other planets/dimensions. He spoke of Pluto as Septimus and Vulcan several times before Pluto was officially discovered as a planet. It was then confirmed that Septimus was Pluto in one of the readings.
From near-death.com on Edgar Cayce and Pluto:
The planet Pluto the seventh planet from the Earth and is associated with the afterlife realm referred to as the realm of consciousness. This afterlife realm is the realm for the final development of full consciousness. The planet Pluto was discussed by Cayce years before it was actually discovered! He referred to it as Vulcan and also as Septimus. When Pluto was discovered, Cayce affirmed that Vulcan or Septimus was the same planet as Pluto. The Pluto realm of the afterlife brings regeneration and a growth in consciousness, but also can bring self-centeredness. Pluto represents spiritual growth and development of the soul and its influence is just now developing in the destiny of humanity.



Also, one last thing but I don't want to make this too long. The Sumerians who are the oldest civilization that we know much about also knew of astrology. They said they got their knowledge from the Annunaki.(meaninghose from heaven to earth came) The Sumerians also knew that the Earth was not flat, and here is one of the glyphs(?) where they had every planet(including the moon as a planet and the controversial Planet X/Nibiru) in it's correct orbiting position relative to the sun. Pluto was also featured, so despite it's size, the "people" who passed down this information must have known Pluto's significance as well. Here is one of the glyphs:

Other observations: Pluto always, ALWAYS points to obsession in synastry when highly activated. Anyone with strong Plutonic nataly also has this trait where they apply this to something in their life that they think will help them grow spiritually,(the less evolved Scorpios use others through sex to try to evolve/grow to lessen/release the intensity of their feelings) This is something I don't see with Arian energy and Mars since it's so focused on doing/achieving.(but I do think it co-rules -- that passion has got to come from somewhere!) Regardless, if Scorpio is rising for the chart ruler or sun for the depositor in the chart looking at Mars and Pluto always reveals interesting results.


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He then added, "Very truly I tell you, you will see 'heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending on' the Son of Man."
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