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Old 10-05-2013, 09:56 PM   #76
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So what do you propose for the next woman who suffers from post natal depression?
again, how do you know that was what she was suffering from? maybe she was just always crazy.
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I do not propose anything. I am not in the biz of making proposals to those who suffer from that.

Try smart questions.
You have no solutions to offer except from passing judgment. I get it.
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Old 10-05-2013, 09:58 PM   #78
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again, how do you know that was what she was suffering from? maybe she was just always crazy.
It's what it said in the article
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Old 10-05-2013, 10:02 PM   #79
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You have no solutions to offer except passing judgment. I get it.
The solution was for that woman to make, not me. Instead of seeking help from the appropriate people (doctors and others), she chose putting her child at risk of getting shot, threatening others with her vehicle, and before that, mailing white powder to her boyfriend.
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She didn't get the right help. But the authorities should have kept an eye on her as soon as she was diagnosed with post natal depression.
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Old 10-05-2013, 10:05 PM   #81
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You are an imbecile.
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Old 10-05-2013, 10:07 PM   #82
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Trixx, just give it up. Diggy, Sosa, and Art all have made valid points. You're saying that women aren't accountable for their actions because...of post natal depression? That's absolute nonsense. Women receive a pass... let's face it, they're aren't accountable for what they do regardless how messed up it is.

If a woman attacks a man, a man isnt allowed to defend himself. Why? Sane or insane, women aren't held accountable. Men are always accountable!

Also, men and women are wired differently. We don't have the same thought process. Women are more emotional (not accountable) while men are not.

This is sort of sad because none of us actually knew the lady personally. Her family knew that she had serious problems but they won't admit it for obvious reason (the media will eat them alive.) There's no harm in that.
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You're the imbecile for trying to compare a man's post natal depression to a woman's.

And you're lost with no reasoning except to use insults.
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Old 10-05-2013, 10:13 PM   #84
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Trixx, just give it up. Diggy, Sosa, and Art all have made valid points. You're saying that women aren't accountable for their actions because...of post natal depression? That's absolute nonsense. Women receive a pass... let's face it, they're aren't accountable for what they do regardless how messed up it is.

If a woman attacks a man, a man isnt allowed to defend himself. Why? Sane or insane, women aren't held accountable. Men are always accountable!

Also, men and women are wired differently. We don't have the same thought process. Women are more emotional (not accountable) while men are not.

This is sort of sad because none of us actually knew the lady personally. Her family knew that she had serious problems but they won't admit it for obvious reason (the media will eat them alive.) There's no harm in that.


Have u ever suffered from a mental illness? Have u ever had 20 bones broken at the same time? You don't know how she has suffered. You only know of the result of her suffering.

So what do you propose for the next time a woman gets post natal depression? Make sure there's enough police officers around to shoot them?
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Old 10-05-2013, 10:21 PM   #85
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I'm not saying she had an excuse to do what she did. I'm saying better health care would have prevented all of that from happening.
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Looks like feminism thought did a number on somebody's thought process.
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Looks like feminism thought did a number on somebody's thought process.


What does advocating better healthcare have to do with feminism? Imbecile.

You're really reaching in your attempt to insult me.
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Quick, guess which number is higher: the number of people who sprain an ankle each year, the number of people who have a stroke, or the number of women who experience postpartum depression?

PPD. Surprised?

In so many books, articles and news programs, you hear the statistic approximately 10 to 15% of women suffer from postpartum mood disorders (PPMDs), including postpartum depression (PPD), postpartum anxiety/OCD and postpartum psychosis. What bothers me about that statistic is that it holds no meaning for most people, and because of that I think these illnesses get much less funding and attention than so many of the other prevalent illnesses that strike Americans. As a result, I decided to do a bit of quick, non-scientific research to look at the real numbers and to help people understand the real impact that postpartum depression is having on the women of our country.

There were approximately 4.3 million live births in the United States in 2007. This statistic does not include fetal losses, including miscarriages and stillbirths. The National Vital Statistics Report indicates that the total number of clinically recognized pregnancies is around 6.4 million. This is important to know, because all postpartum women are susceptible to postpartum depression, regardless of the pregnancy's outcome.

So let's split the difference between the high (20%) and low estimates of PPD (11%) and say that an average of 15% of all postpartum women in the US suffer, as the CDC reported in its 2008 PRAMS research. And let's use the number of clinically recognized pregnancies and not live births. This would mean that each year approximately 950,000 women are suffering postpartum depression.

BUT, did you know the CDC's research only reflected self-reported cases of postpartum depression? How many women do you think did not mention they had PPD out of fear or shame? Should we increase the estimate of sufferers to 17% or 20%?

ALSO, these numbers don't take into account women who may have suffered other perinatal mood and anxiety disorders like PPOCD or postpartum psychosis. Should that make the numbers go even higher?

I'd argue that the number of new mothers who experience perinatal mood and anxiety disorders is in the 20% range, which would mean around 1.3 million.

How does that compare with the incidence among women of other major diseases in America?

Each year less women approximately 800,000 will get diabetes. (Nat'l Diabetes Information Clearinghouse)
Each year about 300,000 women suffer a stroke. (Centers for Disease Control)
Each year approximately 205,000 women are diagnosed with breast cancer. (National Cancer Institute)
In fact, more women will suffer from postpartum depression and related illnesses this year than the combined number of new cases for men and women of tuberculosis, leukemia, multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's disease and epilepsy. This is not to minimize these other terrible diseases, of course. I simply want to illustrate just how prevalent postpartum mood disorders are.

Dr. Ruta Nonacs of Massachusetts General Hospital and Harvard Medical School adds, "Postpartum depression is far more common than gestational diabetes. All women receiving prenatal care are screened for diabetes, but how many pregnant and postpartum women are screened for depression? PPD is also more common than preterm labor, low birth weight, pre-eclampsia and high blood pressure; in other words, PPD is the most common complication associated with pregnancy and childbirth."

Let me leave you with one last thought: More women will suffer from PPD than men will be diagnosed with new cases of impotence (617,715) this year. Yet you wouldn't know it, considering the overabundance of erectile dysfunction (ED) ads and people falling all over themselves to discuss ED openly. Why doesn't PPD get the same attention from pharmaceutical companies?

Why doesn't society work as hard to eliminate the stigma of postpartum mental illness? Why aren't more companies concerned about PPD?

This really is a big problem, and deserves much more attention than it's getting.

given the number of women giving birth every year, that's a lot of women that could be suffering from post natal depression right now.

and given what's already happened with this case, what could have been done to make sure this didn't happen? how are you going to prevent anything like this from ever happening again? if not to offer better healthcare.
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So what do you propose for the next woman who suffers from post natal depression? Are you going to make sure there's enough police officers around to shoot them or are you going to make sure they're better looked after so things like this never happen again?
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I do not propose anything. I am not in the biz of making proposals to those who suffer from that.

Try smart questions.

it was a smart question and that's why you couldn't answer it.


there are hundreds of thousands or maybe even millions of women who suffer from post natal depression. how are you going to help them? are you just gonna shoot every mother that's been diagnosed with it?
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You are an imbecile.

what the fuck do you think midwives and social workers are supposed to be there for?

you're the imbecile. you can't do anything apart from pass judgment. anyone can pass judgment, not everyone can offer a solution.
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