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Old 10-06-2013, 07:48 AM   #91
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Do they have social workers etc in America? Not sure how that works if you have to pay for it?

Better healthcare is a valid point, if she'd just got out of hospital for pnd and was going back to live with her child then over here she would probably have been assigned a social worker or CPN to keep an eye on how she was coping
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Old 10-06-2013, 08:47 AM   #92
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Trixx, just give it up. Diggy, Sosa, and Art all have made valid points. You're saying that women aren't accountable for their actions because...of post natal depression? That's absolute nonsense. Women receive a pass... let's face it, they're aren't accountable for what they do regardless how messed up it is.

If a woman attacks a man, a man isnt allowed to defend himself. Why? Sane or insane, women aren't held accountable. Men are always accountable!

Also, men and women are wired differently. We don't have the same thought process. Women are more emotional (not accountable) while men are not.

This is sort of sad because none of us actually knew the lady personally. Her family knew that she had serious problems but they won't admit it for obvious reason (the media will eat them alive.) There's no harm in that.

what points did diggy make?

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You idiot!!

That is not what I am saying. You do not understand basic English.

Whatever symptoms her illness was, did not necessitate her putting her child in the car and driving 300 miles to do what was shown on tv. Her CRIMINAL ACTS are not symptoms of her disease!!!!!!
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The solution was for that woman to make, not me. Instead of seeking help from the appropriate people (doctors and others), she chose putting her child at risk of getting shot, threatening others with her vehicle, and before that, mailing white powder to her boyfriend.

he already admits that there was something wrong with her and that she needed appropriate help. those were MY points.


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It means she was not fit to be a mother. Another woman who is sane could love the baby. Like I've stated - adoption...


his answer to post natal depression is to give the baby up for adoption. can you imagine how much of a strain that would be on the system if every mother diagnosed with post natal depression were to give up their child for adoption? and what about the fathers? because your baby mother has post natal depression he doesn't get to be a father to that child? it doesn't last forever, women do get over post natal depression in time and with the right help.
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:06 AM   #93
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I already explained that we don't live in a world where these things can be prevented. There aren't enough social workers in existence to stop every thing like this from happening, and there ISN'T ENOUGH MONEY IN IT.

Also trixx you seem to want a world where the authorities are keeping an eye on us, making sure we take our drugs! Thats something like the plot of 1984! You really want that? Be careful what you wish for, its not far off.
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:12 AM   #94
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so how does your country keep an eye on the mentally ill?

there's no money to be made from it so it's not needed?
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:17 AM   #95
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if she killed that baby and survived herself the mother would have been put on trial for it. it would be the duty of your country to try her for it. why is it not a duty to make sure it doesn't happen in the first place?

a midwife/social worker would be a lot less costly than lawyers, judges and court cases.
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:28 AM   #96
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so how does your country keep an eye on the mentally ill?

there's no money to be made from it so it's not needed?
You don't live in a perfect world! its the same in every 'country'.

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if she killed that baby the mother would have been put on trial for it. it would be the duty of your country to try her for it. why is it not a duty to make sure it doesn't happen in the first place?
Yes but like i said earlier society is reactive not proactive. It revolves around money and theres no money to be made from STOPPING somebody from becoming mentally ill, there money in the treatment. Yeah i said that before but its baffling that you can't understand it.

Anyway, do you really think its possible to stop everybody in the world from becoming mentally ill and acting crazy?!

Fuck why are you expecting any government to give a shit?
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:39 AM   #97
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i never said you could stop someone from becoming mentally ill.

i said about giving them (the mentally ill) care, which is what you call treatment. mentally ill people should be given the right treatment.
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:41 AM   #98
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You don't live in a perfect world! its the same in every 'country'.



Yes but like i said earlier society is reactive not proactive. It revolves around money and theres no money to be made from STOPPING somebody from becoming mentally ill, there money in the treatment. Yeah i said that before but its baffling that you can't understand it.

Anyway, do you really think its possible to stop everybody in the world from becoming mentally ill and acting crazy?!

Fuck why are you expecting any government to give a shit?

governments shouldn't give a shit about the people of its own country?

you care enough about Syria to want to do something about that. sort out your own country.
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governments shouldn't give a shit about the people of its own country?

you care enough about Syria to want to do something about that. sort out your own country.
You don't know what you're talking about. In any way.

Of course IN A PERFECT WORLD!!! A government is supposed to care about the average person. But THE WORLD (not just america, dumbass) society is based on money.

America doesn't give 2 fucks about Syria it cares about Syrias oil money.
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so what is your solution for the next women to be diagnosed with post natal depression?


just forget about them? and let this kind of thing become a common occurrence?

you may not care about society but to live in a country like yours and mine we have to care because we are society. and if mentally ill people are going to cause trouble then it is the country's duty to make sure they and the rest of society are safe.

you're seeing it as a loss if we provided them with the right treatment. think about what could be lost without the right treatment? there are doctors, lawyers, teachers, nurses, all sorts that have mental illnesses. you're saying the government shouldn't bother with them?
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so what is your solution for the next women to be diagnosed with post natal depression?


just forget about them? and let this kind of thing become a common occurrence?
I don't have a solution. If there is one we won't see it in our lifetime. The world is in transition, and personally i don't believe things are going to get better.
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I don't have a solution. If there is one we won't see it in our lifetime. The world is in transition, and personally i don't believe things are going to get better.


making sure mentally ill people get the right treatment isn't going to stop people from getting mentally ill in the first place but it can stop them from doing dangerous things.

society needs that.
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It's the same with those mass shootings, they are linked to mentally ill people. Doesn't that send alarm bells in your head? Shouldn't you try to help these people before they get to the point of doing something extreme or dangerous? I couldn't believe the US thought giving out more guns was going to solve the problem. Didn't you hand out more guns the time before that? Or the time before that? Or was it the time before that? Is it what you've been doing all along? Something like that. So did handing out more guns work for you? Or is this becoming more and more common? When you give out more guns the more chance you're giving people to shoot people with it.
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I've been saying better health care all along. Why are you all so against better health care? I don't get it. Give your reasons.
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I've been saying better health care all along. Why are you all so against better health care? I don't get it. Give your reasons.
Nobodys against it! I'm saying great mental healthcare for everybody is impractical and NEVER going to happen in a capitalist society.
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