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Old 11-14-2013, 01:30 AM   #46
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To me it sounds like Rae, Ghost and perhaps deck still wana prove to the streets they the hardest especially Rae.

I don't think this is true. I just think that Rae, Ghost and possibly Deck feel that Wu is known for a particular style and sound and they want to maintain that.

To be honest Rza has lost his touch, with the beats with the rhymes any dj.
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I think that the wu as a group is a think of the past. Every member has his own idea of how the wu should sound. Members especially Rae and Ghost certainly wanted a street oriented album. But Iron flag was an album that sound like that... I think that Rza knows the wu sound that gave them fame is over. Hip Hop fans don't want this sound no more. Robert Diggs is trying to find a new original sound but he failed so many times. He can't produce sounds like in the golden era, this Rza is dead. Bronze and dudes like Cilvaringz are trying to emulate Rza early sound, but they sells poorly. I think that Rza can produce raw sounds if he really wants. He is trying to enter a new chamber but many members don't trust him. He can't find a sound that will satisfy all the members. This group needs a leader. Wu members say they want a Wu album why they don't let other wu producers like Bronze, 4th or True Master produce their albums ? I think that Rae and Ghost just want to be the leaders of this group. These dudes are egoist.
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Old 11-15-2013, 12:54 AM   #49
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And whys GZA have a problem? I thought he's the genius so has a lot of say in the Wu too? Nobody has mentioned this.
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Old 11-15-2013, 01:02 AM   #50
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I don't think this is true. I just think that Rae, Ghost and possibly Deck feel that Wu is known for a particular style and sound and they want to maintain that.

To be honest Rza has lost his touch, with the beats with the rhymes any dj.
Listen ok when these lot were younger they spat that street shit splashed with knowledge and now they older most of their lyrics are just generic street boasting rhymes.. don't put your head in the sand, these are old guys trying to stay relevant in the new HipHop age talking the same ol shit, they supposed to be pioneers. Ok their wordplay and flow still A class but they have it too easy now. I think RZA is on the correct page for vision he trying to lay down something monumental not just the same ol shit. I believe they should make a half n half album light and dark.. Uplift, teach, have fun, speak truth, drop jewels. That's what Wu has always been. Peace
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Old 11-15-2013, 01:48 AM   #51
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that's the most of a shit i've seen mef give about rapping in a long time. i dont know how to word that sentence.

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That's funny that he said more energy is needed from Ghostface, Raekwon, GZA because Ghostface and Raekwon have probably released more solo albums and mixtapes outta the group LOL. For the fans to get that 90's Wu sound, the Wu should do a album without The RZA because it's obvious he's on some different shit and the group members wanna keep the album hardcore if it gets made like the first album.
yeah, they're dropping shit, its cool to listen to, but do those albums really stand out like that? do you go back and listen to them? they're dropping music to stay relevent, to keep up their money.

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I think that the wu as a group is a think of the past. Every member has his own idea of how the wu should sound. Members especially Rae and Ghost certainly wanted a street oriented album. But Iron flag was an album that sound like that... I think that Rza knows the wu sound that gave them fame is over. Hip Hop fans don't want this sound no more. Robert Diggs is trying to find a new original sound but he failed so many times. He can't produce sounds like in the golden era, this Rza is dead. Bronze and dudes like Cilvaringz are trying to emulate Rza early sound, but they sells poorly. I think that Rza can produce raw sounds if he really wants. He is trying to enter a new chamber but many members don't trust him. He can't find a sound that will satisfy all the members. This group needs a leader. Wu members say they want a Wu album why they don't let other wu producers like Bronze, 4th or True Master produce their albums ? I think that Rae and Ghost just want to be the leaders of this group. These dudes are egoist.
i dont know about the egoist part, but i think they should let rza find his new sound. cuz if its just them rapping over 90s-esque beats its gonna seem faulty, played out, but if rza gets his new lane they might be able to cook something up. i mean i'm keepng my expectations real low for this, but if it were to be release, and then if it were to be good, two big ifs, i think it would be thru rza operating in a new lane.
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:57 AM   #52
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just drop it and let the fans decide.
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that's the most of a shit i've seen mef give about rapping in a long time. i dont know how to word that sentence.
"that's the most I've seen Meth give a shit about rapping in a long time."
"It's been a long time since I've seen Meth give that much of a shit about rapping"
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that's the most of a shit i've seen mef give about rapping in a long time. i dont know how to word that sentence.



yeah, they're dropping shit, its cool to listen to, but do those albums really stand out like that? do you go back and listen to them? they're dropping music to stay relevent, to keep up their money.



i dont know about the egoist part, but i think they should let rza find his new sound. cuz if its just them rapping over 90s-esque beats its gonna seem faulty, played out, but if rza gets his new lane they might be able to cook something up. i mean i'm keepng my expectations real low for this, but if it were to be release, and then if it were to be good, two big ifs, i think it would be thru rza operating in a new lane.

Rza experiments, it's a good and bad thing. If the wu members don't trust him this project will fail like 8 diagrams. I don't give a fuck what Rae or Ghost think. Rza created the wu tang clan, he had a vision and they trust him. I don't think a motherfucker like Rae has a vision. He is just a dope mc no more, he can't be a leader. These motherfuckers can't understand Rza because they don't know what Rza has done. He produced 7 incredible albums from 1993 to 1997. Rza is a pioneer and an adventurer who looks further. Other members are not as clever as him because he is a genius. He has taken risks since the beginning. He doesn't want to imitate anybody. So I don't expect anything for this future project.
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And whys GZA have a problem? I thought he's the genius so has a lot of say in the Wu too? Nobody has mentioned this.

I've been wondering about this as well. I don't think GZA has a problem, he's just been busy putting together Dark Matter and his album about the ocean. I do hope GZA makes it onto more cuts for this album though.
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I love how this forum is full of cats who Are experts at what wu should do career wise and can gauge their relevancy lol...it never fails
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I've been wondering about this as well. I don't think GZA has a problem, he's just been busy putting together Dark Matter and his album about the ocean. I do hope GZA makes it onto more cuts for this album though.
That's not a good excuse. GZA never has a lot of verses on Wu albums, probably because he takes so long writing a verse. But really how long is it taking for him to release another album? 5 years later and nothing. Probably 4 or 5 guest appearances he already recorded before 05. All these rappers lost their focus and they're in denial. Rap is all about the hunger and they don't have that hunger. Maybe they could drop a dope verse, but the music is not going to be up to par.

GZA has the name Genius and last year he said his album would drop in Fall, even though it was just a month away. Someone with brains knows if their albums drops next month. If there is only a month left, it's probably used for shipping and shit. I don't even think it's a matter of label not wanting to release it, it's GZA who probably hasn't even recorded the album for 50%. It's ignorant when artists say they're releasing things very soon, but in the end it takes 5+ years. He said Pro Tools was a compilation. Wu-Tang is no longer fresh. The producer has a vision and the rest of the group wants to live in the 90s. They're no longer artists.
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Fans shouldn't tell Wu what to do, for sure. Because fans have no idea what they want.

But at the same time Wu hasn't fed us since 8 Diagrams so we're going to speculate on what the hold up is.

Honestly I think it's that rap is not the #1 most important thing the Clan's lives right now. When rap was #1 for them, they put out heat. Now it's just not. They have families and other business...it's like a job for them. And it shows.
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Fans shouldn't tell Wu what to do, for sure. Because fans have no idea what they want.

But at the same time Wu hasn't fed us since 8 Diagrams so we're going to speculate on what the hold up is.

Honestly I think it's that rap is not the #1 most important thing the Clan's lives right now. When rap was #1 for them, they put out heat. Now it's just not. They have families and other business...it's like a job for them. And it shows.
I surely know what I want and what I don't want. I don't want gayshit like "family reunion". I want a wu album with dope and deep lyrics and ill beats from the wu elements. If Rza lost it he could ask wu fans to send them beats. If they can't release a wu album, fuck them. I think they still respect fans but maybe I am wrong.
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