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Old 11-16-2005, 02:36 PM   #16
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Old 11-16-2005, 02:48 PM   #17
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O.K....the porn talk got me off track hehehe

Damned internet!...sorry bout that.

I really dig what you are saying, although I am not sure if we have provided a clear alternative to institutions.

I would sum it up like this...Be an institution unto yourself to avoid being trapped inside the burning building of institutional organization.
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I really dig what you are saying, although I am not sure if we have provided a clear alternative to institutions.
i am not sure if there is an alternative to institutions

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Be an institution unto yourself
that sounds right

now the question is how to exist on this planet as an institution unto yourself
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Old 11-16-2005, 03:19 PM   #19
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hmmm...i'm thinking
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Thanks hectis...Im still thinking....
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Old 11-16-2005, 07:03 PM   #23
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*enters thread*

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I wanna get out of here
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an institution unto one's self is to understand the past where at in present and what's needed to make that future. in that process expand your shpere of energy like influence on those who are like minds. similar to a single cell who exist alone formimg the compolex organism.

be self sufficent in not having any authority directing your actions steering your thoughts sanctioning your voice. as you come into contact with others spread the knowledge you have they are willing to accept and put into effect. apply like straws where as a group break backs not knowing the one who stresses the structure. advocation of cells where the individuals are of same mind though not neccessarily in the same time zone - think globaly act locally. develop a platform-ground work from which no one can tear asunder spread through incorporation of all elements pertaining like the field theory of the super string in the realm of chaos - everything is involved to the various degrees of where on the line of to do per se.

apply eugenics mentally not in the physical.

more as i really think and not just answer.
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Ok,

My understanding is that people in this thread want to
A - Live on a Farm
B - Live without government
C - Be in every way free, and all the time free

Sounds utopian to me.

But

I believe in government, I do not believe that people should be an institution unto themselves in every facet of they're lives. I believe in taxes, in organized programs, in people being able to construct real things from the power of they're majority opinions, and efforts. I believe that people who can think should keep the others in check, and vice versa.
Sorry, I didn't mean to break the chain of thought here, just droppin my 2 cents.
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Ok,

My understanding is that people in this thread want to
A - Live on a Farm
B - Live without government
C - Be in every way free, and all the time free

Sounds utopian to me.

But

I believe in government, I do not believe that people should be an institution unto themselves in every facet of they're lives. I believe in taxes, in organized programs, in people being able to construct real things from the power of they're majority opinions, and efforts. I believe that people who can think should keep the others in check, and vice versa.
Sorry, I didn't mean to break the chain of thought here, just droppin my 2 cents.
interesting

here is some stuff to consider tho -

1
there is a difference between living a farm
and
living in a garden

2
in terms of 'people constructing'
and
people being 'organized'

my question is - to what end?

organized to do what?
construct what?

the most innocent pursuit that this society has ever sold its people is the idea of 'exploring space'

but
how serious can you expect anybody to take space exploration
given the current situation that this planet is in?



i dont care what the sales pitch is
taking a chunk of material and blasting it into outer space in order to check things out
is not very sophisticated technology




also
3
we can have all the votes we want
but
why do people NOT EVEN HAVE THE OPTION of not participating in society?





i agree with you that it is wise to avoid utopian ideals

this isnt no whimsical-bliss-ninny-save-the-whales-hippy shit
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Ok,

My understanding is that people in this thread want to
A - Live on a Farm
B - Live without government
C - Be in every way free, and all the time free

Sounds utopian to me.

But

I believe in government, I do not believe that people should be an institution unto themselves in every facet of they're lives. I believe in taxes, in organized programs, in people being able to construct real things from the power of they're majority opinions, and efforts. I believe that people who can think should keep the others in check, and vice versa.
Sorry, I didn't mean to break the chain of thought here, just droppin my 2 cents.
It could be considered utopian, but what's wrong with striving for the perfect conditions to be alive in?

It could be said that those conditions are impossible, they don't exsist.

I don't agree, because in all of my studies of history I have not seen it attempted. So, really...who's to say what is utopian and what is not if there is nothing to compare it to?

I mean humanity has been had divine information and knowledge that has never been applied to society in a way as to benifit the masses. Why?

Because, it was used to enslave them and make them complacent with their given situation. Being totally free in everyway cannot be utpoian.

Utopian is the elite, greedy lives of the ones who are in money heaven because they control taxes, organized programs, and our food.

In the above highlighted could you explain why you feel this way, just wondering.
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So, really...who's to say what is utopian and what is not if there is nothing to compare it to?
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I mean humanity has been had divine information and knowledge that has never been applied to society in a way as to benifit the masses. Why?

Because, it was used to enslave them and make them complacent with their given situation. Being totally free in everyway cannot be utpoian.
a subtle disagreement here

it seems more that it is the result of a lack of divine information that has caused enslavement

divine information was taken away
and
replaced by incorrect knowledge

like hollowing out the inside of a tree
and replacing it with something foreign

--- the tree will still grow - but it will be all fucked up

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Utopian is the elite, greedy lives of the ones who are in money heaven because they control taxes, organized programs, and our food.
but
(the achilles heel)
they have no self control

ultimately
what we are witnessing is a big swing-and-a-miss by the elite


(and we all get to suffer in the process)
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