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Old 02-16-2006, 12:16 PM   #31
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But, that's what Im saying...those elites have the divne info at hand. It's not like divinity fell off the face of the earth.

It takes many forms... you could have a pure nutrtious apple in your hand and you would have to decide to feed it to me or hit me wit it upside my head, knock me out and take all my shit.

And I agree wit your last statements too. I'm just saying they love this life and whatever consequences they or we suffer is irrelevent to them because they are in utopia - money utopia heaven.
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Old 02-16-2006, 12:23 PM   #32
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But, that's what Im saying...those elites have the divne info at hand. It's not like divinity fell off the face of the earth.

It takes many forms... you could have a pure nutrtious apple in your hand and you would have to decide to feed it to me or hit me wit it upside my head, knock me out and take all my shit.

And I agree wit your last statements too. I'm just saying they love this life and whatever consequences they or we suffer is irrelevent to them because they are in utopia - money utopia heaven.
it dont look to me like they are in utopia

i see no wealthy people who age well

look at their faces

all these fucked up 'new' diseases
'chronic' illnesses

hollywood plastic surgery
the furrowed brows of politicians

alzheimers
vitamin deficiencies



divinity hasnt fallen off the face of the earth
but
it has been removed from some locations

attract/repel


it is only available to those who seek it


there is no utopia in $$



(although on a short time-line
decay gives the appearance of heaven)
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Old 02-16-2006, 12:28 PM   #33
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well...I can't argue with you there. They are disgusting and their lifestyle is disgusting.

Point taken and well recieved....so what do we do?
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Old 02-16-2006, 12:34 PM   #34
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damn..."we" can't do jack...but fuck each other. I'm going off to live in the himalya mountains.
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Old 02-16-2006, 12:44 PM   #35
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they prolly have some covert military base in the himalayas

or a wal-mart




--- so - what do we do?



trapped in the waiting room
somebody took all the good magazines
all the other patients are going crazy
and it smells like somebody in here ate too much pork




wait it out
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Old 02-16-2006, 12:53 PM   #36
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wait it out...hmmm How anti - climatic. I guess...
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Old 02-16-2006, 02:58 PM   #37
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things other people do -

-worry
-get hooked on various substances
-get hooked on sex
-suicide
-suicide bombing
-join the money race and its associated pressures
-start a cult
-get hooked on tv
-get hooked on video games
-make signs and gather people to yell at politicians and pretend that will have some effect (also chant slogans)



or find some other way to
'get in over your head'
or
'pull the wool over your own eyes'

to help the process go faster
or
make it less aggravating/frustrating/painful
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Old 02-16-2006, 03:14 PM   #38
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Damn LHX, I'd rather wait it out wit chu!

It's the truth, though...as ugly and boring and stupid as it is...waiting it out, huh?

I can dig it.

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Old 02-16-2006, 04:40 PM   #39
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wait train through preparation for it that's life is at this stage of the process.

in mean time teach and reach out so when moment comes don't feel like struck dumb.
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Old 02-16-2006, 04:46 PM   #40
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My reply is simple. I like debate. I like argueing and reaching a concensus. I feel it's the only way.
There is a difference between a farm and a garden, and there are many ways to not participate in the daily race.

One component could be biodiesel, which is made from waste vegetable oil. In this way you could basically drive anywhere and never have to visit an Exxon again. It's also better for the environment.

Another could be hemp, which is nearly out-lawed in the US, but if legalized could be a whole other industry for this country.

There is also emigration. There is a country just to the North of the US, that is much more understanding to it's citizens than we are.

120 years, that's my prediction, the way things are. I give us 120 years, tops.

If you're serious, and due to the high level of conversation here, I think
you are, please consider this in integral steps that you can easily take to reach it. Just little things that when added up equal you're goal.

Lastly, election law.
It'd be nice of the reps actually listened to the people, and not only the money.
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alternate fuel sources are fun in theory
but
they dont address the hate


also
everybody still seems to forget that alternate fuel vehicles still need to be produced some where

and last i checked

manufacturing plants ALSO produced a shit load of waste

yet
you never hear anything about
alternative fuel manufacturing facilities




half-assed solutions
for a half-assed society




we need a full-ass approach




(doom)
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Old 02-16-2006, 11:12 PM   #42
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120 years, that's my prediction, the way things are. I give us 120 years, tops.
?
you meant 120 days

right?
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Old 02-17-2006, 12:16 PM   #43
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Alternative fual plants are making a big upswing. They are making Ethanol which is an additive to gasoline, you can blend it all the way up to 85% Ethanol and 15% Gasoline. Ethanol is made from corn, Chevy, Ford and Chrysler all make vehicles that can run mixed fuels like this.
Boidiesel is a different animal all together. Biodiesel is made by the person who uses it, for the most part. And is run in normal diesel engines. The diesel engine was made to run off of peanut oil in the beginning. This is a fact, look it up.
As far as the hate goes, that's a tall order. It's something that has to be taught over generations. Children must be taught to apply these theories. Home wasn't built in a day.
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Old 02-17-2006, 12:19 PM   #44
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I meant 120 years, but 120 days could be accurate as well.

But in 120 years, there very likely won't be any air left to breathe, or water to drink. Or the sun's deadly rays will irradicate everyone, unless we can do that 1st.
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Old 02-22-2006, 10:09 PM   #45
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this thread is beutiful

i remember many times people asking me wot i'd like to do wen i'm older and i say live on a self sufficient farm with a family and they think i'm wierd

sometimes i day dream about working out a formula to the share market, and setting up a computer to invest money following this formula, and then using this money to set up self sufficient communities all around the world so they don't need to use money ever again

or sometimes when debating about capitalism, and people ask me whats a better solution than money, how would anything get done, and i tell them out of the goodness of peoples hearts. u c something broken, u fix it. u c some1 struggling, u help them. then they tell me that would never work because people are greedy.

then i start thinking the only way my solution would work is if mankind evolved to have psychic abilities, to the point where u can't help but hear others thoughts or feel their pain but its not that impossible, because in humans whats left to evolve (although i dunno if i believe evolution theory) except the mind. maybe its not evolution, its remembering how to use parts of the brain we forgot. but just imagine it, u c some1 hungry, and your stomach hurts, so u go and give them food. or u c some1 lonely and u feel lonely too, so u go and give them a hug.

then this stuff about 2012 makes me start feeling optimistic again.

damn, i love u ppl on know the ledge. at least i'm not the only person on a quest for true knowledge

if ever any1 wants to build, my msn is notoriouspaz@hotmail.com, but if u one of those dudes that evry now and then makes a username to come into know the ledge and ridicule our search for knowledge, calling it paranoia, leave me alone
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