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Old 07-27-2005, 07:34 PM   #541
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So u think Roman woke up one day n thought... hmmm, im going 2 ruin football! I really dont think so... believe it or not but he loves Football. And the only reason Chelsea HAVE 2 pay stupid money is because other clubs add an extra 10m onto the value. But we have also had some good buys, ie robben 12m and Cech 7m. And made the best out of a mediocre player like Lampard and made him one of the best midfielders in the world right now.

And come on man, United have spent millions over the last few years too, Rio 30m, Rooney 30m after appearance etc, veron 28m, van nist 19m... thats over 100m Madrid... shit loads, i dont know the exact fees but pretty much every season they spend alot of money. Chelsea have just done what Madrid and United have done in 2 or 3 seasons. ? But we had 2, we wanted to be the best and we will be in 5 years time. Guaranteed. So just because we have done what they have done in just 1 season we are worse, why. And Inzaghi has never been considered as one of the greatest forwards in the world, i could name many strikers back in 98 who were above the level of him.

And u wont agree, but u could buy the best players in the world but u still have 2 make them work as 1 unit within a year. Mourinho didn't buy the best... we could have signed the best right back in the world, but we signed Paulo Ferreira instead, we could have signed the best central midfielder in the world, but we bought Tiago instead. Mourinho could have done things alot more easier but with all the media coverage (which by the way, the media have made us look 100 times worse that what we are) and hes gone the slightly harder route n bought semi good players and still slaughtered the league and SHOULD have got into the final of the champs league, but thats football. If you dont like the current state of football why are u here? Go watch some panzy american sport... and i dont remember saying Chelsea were the best Ourobourous... as ive said many times before we will be in years to come... but yeh, we have only been in the champs league 4 seasons... we got to the semi's twice and quaters twice, thats more that what arsenal and many other teams have accomplished in 9 or so years. Would Kenyon still be whatever u said if he was at Man U still? Afterall... he signed Van Nist and Rio for u, what more do u want?

We could argue 4 days and days about this, but getting it in ur ear everyday is enough 4 me, i wont stand down from what ive said.
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Old 07-28-2005, 05:13 AM   #542
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lol shut the fuck up u nuthugger

milan although as rich as chelsea, have built their squad from decent priced players

nesta wasnt 21 million he was about 13 million cus it was like 25 million euros, as at that time italy was (still is) fucked up cus of the euro conversion

the point about chelsea is that they can outbid practically EVERYONE

word they arent the only ones but they are definitely the biggest of the spenders and it wont stop, if u wernt a chelsea fan you would see and probably hate them too

i used to like chelsea, they were a nice team to watch...now theyre just arrogant, with a twat of a manger, a snake in kenyon and a russian who doesnt give a SHIT aboiut football

hes making a name for himself with it, you can bet hes not gonna be around long and then all the merceneries will leave

like french says, theyre dictating how other teams spend now

do u even need essien? do u even need wright phillips?

you can write your essays, and you are a true fan but we say FUCK CHELSEA beacuse theyre ruining football

and milan WOULD beat you in the champs league, pre season friendleys dont mean shit
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Old 07-28-2005, 02:13 PM   #543
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lol 36 calm down son, where's the love? we can talk civilly surely............

I meant Chelsea spent cold money on players......not money generated from ticket sales, prize money, marketing etc like utd. Utd, Milan etc spent the money over 4 or 5 years, not 125m in 1 year or 200m in 2.
Are you seriously saying you like Kenyon? I know a lot of Chelsea fans and they all hate him and I always have, he's the one dragging Chelsea' name thru the mud. What more d I want? erm how about not fucking up robben or roanldinho's transfers? yeah great.....
Abramovich's money is ruining football not him himself, as for spending stupid money, I think you can safely say Kenyon is more than 50% responsible for stupid prices, only reason teams want so much from chelsea is they pay well over odds i.e drogba 24m.

Inzaghi scored 10 goals in the first 2 stages of champs league & was top scorer in seria a, thats what i meant by one of best in europe at one time (that season), he's hardly shit anyway being at milan, juve & playing for italy his whole career?????
Lampard was hardly mediocre before you bought him in my opinion, not as good as he is now, but very much an exciting prospect.

Tiago is fucking shite by the way (like most of our midfielders) and ferreira was widely rated as the best european right back before euro 2004, regulalrly in the uefa select side.
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Old 07-28-2005, 02:15 PM   #544
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I said Real were (almost) as bad anyway..........King of Spain wiping out their debts every year, spending 40m+ figo, 30m zidane etc.......
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ok here goes,

I personally have concluded this much since the roman takeover.

the whole situation at chelsea is pretty non benificial to football in a whole. there are lots of example to show for this.

First off Chelsea cannot be considered a true football team in the sense of how the current team has been built. i mean most of your starting 22 weren't even there before the roman takeover.

second off i don't think personally chelsea can justify the amount of money they've spent to the amount they've made on their success. ( man u & arsenal both recoup their transfer spending through sales, merchendice, sponsership ,winning cups etc. chelsea won't be able to balance the expendeture/income ratio ever.

personally i question how roman came about his vast billions, i don't doubt for a second thats most of that money is not gained legally i guess chelsea can be his little money laudering output. they club have possibally hired the worst team of people assemble in the history of football.

Jose Mourinho: the apitamy of arrogence, i actually had some respect for him but his outburst in the past 6 months haver left a sour taste in the mouth of most football fans cause most notabally the resignation of anders frisk.

Peter Kenyon: probably the worst individual apart from pini zahavi in football. he stands for the totally wrong direction in football and his comment and action are that of a slimey pompous twat.

Transfer policy: Pretty much this is the worst part of the roman takeover policy.

The way chelsea have monopolised the transfer market is totally unprofessional. they have cause a sharp price increase in nearly every transfer thats ongoing in the past 2 years, wayne rooney being a prime example here. do you really think he would have been sold for anywhere near that. i doubt it! i mean most of the chelsea purchases haven't even been required.

did you really need tiago, carvellho, crespo, joe cole, glen johnson, del horno, wright philips

honestly i think it's inflated the prices of nearly anybody who would have been available
i don't think thats a just situation unlike chelsea most club are trying to run a business not playing a game of monopoly.

i mean for all that money spent what have you actually got to show for it a league title and cup. your club assest won't ever stabalise at the rate you're going.

oh well as soon as mafiaoso money run out see jhow long your beloved cfc last before you're in liquidation

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Old 07-29-2005, 01:05 AM   #546
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I said Real were (almost) as bad anyway..........King of Spain wiping out their debts every year, spending 40m+ figo, 30m zidane etc.......
you said it..."were".

and i hardly see how you can waste the market by buying one (very expensive) player per year.

but yeah they almost initiate the trend.

by tha way, zidane cost much more than figo.
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Old 07-29-2005, 08:10 AM   #547
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lol 36 is now crying

footballs shit now compared to the old days anyway, money ruins most shit

transfer and salary caps are needed to make these faggot players actually care about the game
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Old 07-29-2005, 11:17 AM   #548
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personally ronin i see it like this.

sport itself has nearly lost all meaning, football soon will follow the same path as the overcommercialised american way of doing thing. i mean take for example basketball baseball and nfl these people are being paid tens of millions a year, there is no love in these sport just a capatalistic mentality.

i personally think people like kenyon, zahavi, ferdinand, roman, glazier, etc don't belong somewhere where passion is needed these people are a corruptive force that will eventually ruin everything in football.

just my 2 cents
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Old 07-29-2005, 01:01 PM   #549
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yea... only players w/ love for the game & shit right now are old ones.... Maldini... Zola...
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Old 07-29-2005, 01:03 PM   #550
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haha basketball is the worst for money...

and yes, im crying so much... ill be crying more at the end of the season when we win the league again i just cant be arsed to type replys to 5 different Chelsea haters.

Go watch some b-ball ronin, seeing as its not as money orientated as football according 2 u.
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Old 07-29-2005, 02:28 PM   #551
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i was just explaining my opinion after your little outburst 36, not a case of chelsea hating, just not approving of 'the movement' didn't mind chelsea in the luca days or immediately b4 abramovich (tho never liked bates). still dislike arsenal more than any other team (on the pitch) but the whole chelsea thing is so O.T.T. and fucking stupid, boring, damaging. They bid for players just to try & stop other teams getting them (reyes, obi-mikel, hleb for example) I like Mourinho when he's not being a bad sport or talking shit, he's a good character, someone missing since wee gordan strachan, i don't dislike majority of chelsea players either. just don't think u can compare accomplishments with chelsea with any others cos of the dough etc involved - sure teams have to gel, but by paying for the best u are more likely to overcome that..........
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Wish Rio would fuck off to Chelsea if he's going to be such a disloyal greedy cunt.
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Old 07-29-2005, 04:23 PM   #553
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What? Chelsea never bidded for Hleb or Reyes... or stopped Arsenal from getting them, where did you get that from? Plus we had a true claim to Obi even before Man U knew he existed. Please, dislike Chelsea all u like but dont believe everything u read. The media isnt helping the situation either, how many players a day are we linked with in the English papers? About 5 or 6 a day probably. Alot of it is BS. But fuck it, i cant be arsed to get into it all again. And i love how everyone hates Mourinho cos he tells it like it is and hes arrogant about it, so what? Most of the shit he says is true, he even said at the start of the season we would win the league at Bolton on April 30th... look what happened! If Mourinho was the manager of your club(s), you would LOVE him.

And of course u never minded us in the Vialli days, thats because your club was pretty much guaranteed a top 2 spot due 2 the lack of threat coming from the other 18 clubs. This is one of the reasons why i catch alot of shit from Gunners and United fans. I think Chelsea have done what any other club would have done in the situation with an open cheque book, but we havent really signed the GREATEST players in the world, the only "superstars" we signed were Crespo and Veron... hmmm.

And why does Rio need to sign a new contract, doesn't he have 2 or 3 years left on his current one? Chelsea dont need him, we have John Terry

Ouroborous, PM me your reply if you want to continue with this lil debate, id like to carry on but i cant answer to like 4 different people at a time, and ronin... your mothers hairy scavey twat
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Wish Rio would fuck off to Chelsea if he's going to be such a disloyal greedy cunt.
would rather see Fergie make him warm the bench for the 2 years he has left on his contract and then see who wants a player who hasn't played a game for two years on a free.
effectively, it would end his career.
that would serve the cunt right.

at least some of the money Utd would lose on the transfer, they will have saved by not updating his contract.
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..........Plus we had a true claim to Obi even before Man U knew he existed. Please, dislike Chelsea all u like but dont believe everything u read. The media isnt helping the situation either, how many players a day are we linked with in the English papers? About 5 or 6 a day probably. Alot of it is BS. But fuck it, i cant be arsed to get into it all again. And i love how everyone hates Mourinho cos he tells it like it is and hes arrogant about it, so what? Most of the shit he says is true, he even said at the start of the season we would win the league at Bolton on April 30th... look what happened! If Mourinho was the manager of your club(s), you would LOVE him.
I have no problem with chelsea and I like mourinho alot (loved it when he "hushed" the scousers in the league cup final, funny as fuck), but this whole obi situation stinks of corruption to me.
one minute he is happy to sign for Utd (despite knowing of chelsea's interest), then his family get death threats and John Shittu kidnaps him and he changes his mind and says he wants to play for chelsea, and that he was forced to sign for Utd.
ffs, you gotta admit it sounds dodgy as fuck, especially when you know how angry abramovich was when he heard Utd had turned him over.
well, as far as I'm concerned he can fuck off cause Utd don't need anyone who doesn't want to play for them, but chelsea should have to buy him from Utd, not just get him.
if FIFA rule in chelsea's favour then that puts out a message to every player that they can try and wangle out of any contract they change their mind about.

and Utd had heard of him years before chelsea, he was gonna sign for Utd but there were problems with work permits.

basically, just because a player is training with your club don't give you the right to say he is your player until he signs a contract saying as much.
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