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Old 03-22-2006, 08:24 PM   #1
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peace

juvenile flare ups aside

this place is as progressive a forum as i have come across


for this place to be truly useful
it would have to be a place for people to
1 - come and present ideas or questions in discussion
2 - get feedback on their ideas
3 - leave the forum having a better understanding of the universe they are in

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everybody here is under pressure
and
we play into 'their' hands when we cant resolve certain things

who ever it is 'they' are


i dont really like any of you
or trust any of you
but
if you acknowledge the same elements of pressure as i do
it seems we are fighting the same fight
by default


it would be really significant if the individuals could squash the bullshit and stick with some progressive themes


dark-skinned folks want their struggle and oppression to be acknowledged
light-skinned folks dont want to be chastised for being born into a fucked up system

what i see is two groups of people under the same source of pressure



certain people have grown to acknowledge the effects of food substances on the body
other people havent yet found it necessary to investigate a relationship between what they eat and what they do between when they wake up and when they go to sleep

is there no room for tolerance here?



what i dont think youll find here
is any regular posters here that think the current experience on this planet is all peaches and cream



ultimately
i am posting this to try and generate some discussion about what this forum is about
what the central themes should be
and i am curious to see if we could define a common goal
maybe all the other bullshit would fall to the side


like i said
i dont want to spend any more time building with you people than i have to
but
forums like this seem to be the best places to be at this point



what i dont want to see is good heads get driven away for having to put up with too much bullshit

throw some feedback if you get the chance
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Old 03-22-2006, 08:30 PM   #2
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wouldn't we like the whole world to be good





ain't happening
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Old 03-22-2006, 08:34 PM   #3
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Quote:
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wouldn't we like the whole world to be good





ain't happening
so what is happening?
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Old 03-22-2006, 08:56 PM   #4
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some are crying and some are eating

but i'm laughing
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Old 03-22-2006, 08:59 PM   #5
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'it isnt true unless it makes you laugh
you dont understand it until it makes you cry'


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Old 03-22-2006, 10:41 PM   #6
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most of the post on here are about the following of a certon thing
need to clean it up

most of the thing on here is about the race

on how whites should be killed off
whites as a whole race fucked the black race
bla bla
its all this place is ..i can stand for one or 2

and to bring facts not thoughts

ive done that ..but is floods this whole fourm

need to ask a q and get a thought out answer
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Old 03-22-2006, 11:22 PM   #7
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Thanks for putting this out there. I would like to see solutions tring to be presented at the same time of identifying problems. Too often I see people who are aware of the problems without giving enough thought to realistic solutions to that problem. And to me genocide of an entire people will never be the right answer, and really those kinds of responses, in general deny the real solution and the real problem at the same time.
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Old 03-24-2006, 07:31 PM   #8
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I will sticky this for now. I havent been in here recently like I should be.
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Old 03-25-2006, 02:48 AM   #9
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Solutions ?


lets look at the problems


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look, calling 2 people a nigger, isnt a big deal,it doesnt make me a bad person. your buddy tookie killed people and alot of people forgave him.

i called someone wait, 2 people the n-bomb in one post. u cant forget about it. u cant forget about ....well of ccourse u cant forget about it, its your goddam sig NO body gives a shit but nobodys gonna forget it. alot of people see your sig and say to themselves,.."all that guy wants to do is have e-beef with sicka". they know u dont actuallly care, lol, why would u, if its hurtful you''d get rid of it. u choose ,i dont even know why, lmao,

i know u arent LHX, (kinda sucks), or timbs, (cant have everything,) soul controller or princerai, oh well


you'll get no resolutions outta this shit,
i apologized, ive givin u solutions to resolve this problem and all you've done is called me a fag,...than a baby....than whatever.

dont be stubborn kid, the fight is over. do u enjoy typing words that lead up to beef, nevermind. I apologized earlier, and im doing it again. and as long as there's a member named "crackakilla" on the forum, i dont think were going to get very far with all this. wait, your going nowhere with this,.. over.1

see how he causes trouble then calls you a trouble maker after he apologizes but then says what he did was no big deal and i should just let it go ?


this is the mentallity we have been fighting in KTL - this is that devil we talk about so much - when we are expressing what we suffer today due to people like this who laid the foundation of madness we get called racist and haters - its like telling the rape victim " aww just get over it, its nothing but a forced dick up your ass"

people like this

they won't see themselves at all no matter how much we attempt to explain it in clear words - all they know is war

this is the problem in KTL !
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Old 03-25-2006, 02:54 AM   #10
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and this is not the first time we have been called niggers by Jasper and sicka

wooz loves to use the word too - but thats all they have

while we pull out history books,scientific findings, todays news stories about the wickedness done to us by people like these and build and try to reconnect ourselves with ourselves they bring nothing to counter that but the word NIGGER - thats all they have - no debate - no proof - just racial slurs

being called Leroy and Jamal and Nigger on a official Wu Tang website is a slap in the face to the 9 generals and i know they wouldn't have this shit if they knew what was up -
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Old 03-25-2006, 05:20 AM   #11
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We (people of western european descent) need to acknowledge what our countries have been doing (and still are) to the rest of the world's population.
You (people of african, asian, latin-american descent) need to acknowledge that even though some of us in this forum have that heritage we cannot be held responsible, and that despite of our heritage we can also be against the current world order.

It's about respect, tolerance, forgiveness. It's about seeing who the real enemy is. It's about moving forward....
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this discussion of 'race' takes on more dimensions than people are willing to look at

but
people neglect to look at ALL dimensions of it
because from at least one perspective
everybody is to blame in this mess

white people will never understand oppression until they feel oppression

black people will never understand being blamed for something they dont understand until they get blamed for something they dont understand




which is why i quoted that section from the art of war


IF THERE IS A DEFINITION OF A COMMON GOAL
IT DOES NOT MATTER WHERE YOU ARE ON YOUR PERSONAL QUEST FOR KNOWLEDGE

IF THERE IS A STATEMENT OF AIM
ALL THE BULLSHIT WILL FALL TO THE SIDE


this is a long road
and everybody here is arguing about what color the road is
instead of focusing on reaching the destination


and it has got so bad
that barely anybody even knows what the destination is anymore
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Old 03-25-2006, 09:31 AM   #13
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The only race that exists is the human race.

Word up.
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Old 03-25-2006, 11:06 AM   #14
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You (people of african, asian, latin-american descent) need to acknowledge that even though some of us in this forum have that heritage we cannot be held responsible, and that despite of our heritage we can also be against the current world order.

those whites who come in here with respect and understanding receive respect and even honor from us

those blacks who come in here with disrespect get slapped up quick

there is no discrimination on my part at all when it comes to this
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Old 03-25-2006, 04:19 PM   #15
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One minor thing is too often people are posting directly to 1 person who replied to the thread when they should be posting in direction of the people reading the thread. I know sometimes it is necessary to write to one person, but sometimes it is better to address the room.
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