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Old 10-13-2005, 01:05 PM   #181
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Default Re: Does Geometry prove a God's Existence?

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by fairies
do you mean gay people?
lol... but u know what i mean

the idea of God has always existed, why?
cos man just needs that desire to have a God?


basically the fact that we believe in a ULTIMATE POWER.. suggests it exists.. i mean how can our most thoughprovoking power not exist when it cant be perfect..
isnt perfect.. perfect.. when it actually exits?

ok thats word play... but thats just a start to the quest to see God..
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Old 10-13-2005, 01:51 PM   #182
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lol... but u know what i mean

the idea of God has always existed, why?
cos man just needs that desire to have a God?


basically the fact that we believe in a ULTIMATE POWER.. suggests it exists.. i mean how can our most thoughprovoking power not exist when it cant be perfect..
isnt perfect.. perfect.. when it actually exits?

ok thats word play... but thats just a start to the quest to see God..
word play might possibly be the result of god trying to define himself


i know what you mean by fairies
but i do not think they are necessary
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Old 10-13-2005, 02:08 PM   #183
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Default Re: Does Geometry prove a God's Existence?

haha word to LHX, you're on some real recondite thinking.

just the fact that we have a power of speculation points to powers that we have been endowed with. we're all broken mirror fragments of the reflection of God.
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Old 10-13-2005, 02:10 PM   #184
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word play might possibly be the result of god trying to define himself


i know what you mean by fairies
but i do not think they are necessary
lol exactly tehrefore we deduct that belief.. but stik 2 God as that concept is more appealing?
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Old 10-13-2005, 02:12 PM   #185
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Default Re: Does Geometry prove a God's Existence?

hmmmmmm

a good point

if you want
it would prolly be easier to say that fairies and angels are agents of god


this is prolly a conversation similar to the one that took place when they first decided to create a religion

lets get them focussing on the words rather than spending their time in a natural state of freedom
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Old 10-13-2005, 02:22 PM   #186
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hmm yes indeed

agents of God apparently.. then its taught that God is all powerful hmm...

but the fact that angels are similarly believed in as God and not fairies suggests their existence if we assume that talkin as we do concludes Gods existnce!

hmm id love to break the tehory of angels..
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Old 10-13-2005, 02:38 PM   #187
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hmm yes indeed

agents of God apparently.. then its taught that God is all powerful hmm...

but the fact that angels are similarly believed in as God and not fairies suggests their existence if we assume that talkin as we do concludes Gods existnce!

hmm id love to break the tehory of angels..
god is like the main veins
angels are the capillaries

we are the nerves that touch the skins surface which is why we have to be careful or we get burnt
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Old 10-13-2005, 02:54 PM   #188
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peace good representation...

i see it the same.. God as the head .. and slowly his wonders coexist when our minds are at peace..

i see a peaceful hierarchy

its debatable.. but doesnt nature and the universe bind itself to hierarchy?

we can look at simplest things in nature to see this.. the hierarschy is governed by Gods laws which are flexible.. and also bound by the power of harmony which is the glue to hold things together...

angels humans etc and all other beings are instruments to show Gods energy in terms of physicality..

god has no body as that would limit him... etc
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Old 10-13-2005, 02:58 PM   #189
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peace good representation...

i see it the same.. God as the head .. and slowly his wonders coexist when our minds are at peace..

i see a peaceful hierarchy

its debatable.. but doesnt nature and the universe bind itself to hierarchy?

we can look at simplest things in nature to see this.. the hierarschy is governed by Gods laws which are flexible.. and also bound by the power of harmony which is the glue to hold things together...

angels humans etc and all other beings are instruments to show Gods energy in terms of physicality..

god has no body as that would limit him... etc
yo

i would agree with you

except that i would say that even god is bound by gods laws

and i would also say that gods laws are not really flexible



you can create men from the dirt in your imagination
if these men were to say that you have no body that limits you
would they be right?

same deal
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Old 10-13-2005, 03:07 PM   #190
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Challenge = name anything that can't be defined mathematically.
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Old 10-13-2005, 03:08 PM   #191
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peace.. i appreciate your belief

but when god made the law.. he is all powerful and thus must not have to be bound to his own rules.. wouldnt that contradict God?
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"The Absolute, the Abstract Space is the Causa Causorum of everything which is, has been, and will be.

"The profound and joyous Space is certainly the incomprehensible "Seity", that is the ineffable mystic root of the seven Cosmos. It is the mysterious origin of all of that which we know as Spirit, Matter, Universes, Suns, Worlds, etc.

"That", the Divine, the Space of Happiness, is a tremendous reality beyond the Universe and the Gods.

"That" does not have any dimension, and truly It is what always will be, and has been. It is the life which intensely throbs within each atom and within each sun.

"Let us now talk about the "Ocean of the Spirit". How can It be defined?

"Certainly, the Ocean of the Spirit is Brahma, which is the first difference or modification of "That", before which Gods and human beings tremble.

"Is "That" Spirit? Truly I tell you that It is not. Is "That" Matter? Certainly I tell you that It is not.

"That" is the Root of the Spirit and of the Matter, but It is not Spirit, neither Matter.

"That" overcomes the Laws of Number, Measurement, and Weight, Side by Side, Quantity, Quality, Front, Back, Above, Below, etc..

"That" is the immutable in profound divine abstraction. Light which has never been created by any God, neither by any human being. "That" has no name.

"Brahma is Spirit, but "That" is not Spirit.

"AIN (Nothingness) the Unmanifested is Uncreated Light.

"The Absolute is life free in its motion; it is the Supreme Reality, the Abstract Space that only expresses itself as Absolute Abstract Motion, happiness without limits, complete Omniscience. The Absolute is Uncreated Light and perfect plenitude, absolute happiness, life free in its motion, life without conditions, without limits.

"Within the Absolute we pass beyond Karma and the Gods, far beyond the Law, beyond the mind, and the individual consciousness which only serves for mortifying our life. Within the Absolute we do not have an individual mind, neither individual consciousness. "There" we are the free and absolutely happy unconditional Being.

"The Absolute is life free in its motion, without conditions, without limitations, without a mortifying fear towards the Law. It is life beyond the Spirit and Matter, beyond Karma and pain.

"The Absolute is Absolute Abstract Space, Absolute Abstract Motion, Absolute Liberty without conditions, without reserves, Absolute Omniscience, and Absolute Happiness.

"We have to finish with the process of the "I", in order to enter into the Absolute. The human "I" must enter into the house of the dead, must go to the common grave of the astral rubbish. The "I" must be disintegrated in the Abyss, in order for the Being, full of majesty and power, to be born.

"Only impersonal life and the Being can give us the legitimate happiness of the Great Life free in its motion.

"To struggle, to fight, to suffer, and to be free in the end, in order to get lost as a drop within the ocean of Uncreated Light, is certainly the best longing.

"One needs to be prepared within the Region of Atala, before entering into the Absolute. In Atala, the Beings are uncolored.

"A certain man who could not enter into the Absolute lives in Atala, due to the fact that he invented the two words: Good and Evil, instead of using the words Evolutionary and Devolutionary*. This man created a type of Karma, because humanity has been damaged with the two words: Good and Evil. In everything, we say, this is good or this is evil, so humanity is stagnant in all of that which attracts them to the studies of the internal values. This is why this holy man is waiting.

"We have to help people in order for them to exchange the two words Good and Evil for Evolutionary and Devolutionary.

"Within the bosom of the Absolute exists the Paramarthasattyas in great exaltation; they become exalted little by little until they pass beyond all possible comprehension." Samael Aun Weor

Devolutionary* Latin Devolvere: backwards evolution: DEGENERATION!


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Old 10-13-2005, 03:57 PM   #193
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Default Re: Does Geometry prove a God's Existence?

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peace.. i appreciate your belief

but when god made the law.. he is all powerful and thus must not have to be bound to his own rules.. wouldnt that contradict God?
peace man

you are right G

0 = 2

its the way it goes

you definitely arent wrong



oh but wait
i guess the other way of looking at it
would be that god wouldnt break his own rules once he made them
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Challenge = name anything that can't be defined mathematically.
the fact that i could not have predicted that you were going to challenge me to name something that cant be defined mathematically
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