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Old 10-08-2005, 03:43 PM   #91
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not really what i mean.. we could explain objective reality and what it most likely would probably consist of.. it consists of a range of "possibilities"

but we, the mere "perceivers" have no way to gage objective reality in practice in our lives.
i think that you may be selling yourself short

and also may be assuming a bit too much about objective reality



you can figure out exactly what objective reality consists of by continually narrowing down the 'possibilities'
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makes perfect sense princerai
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yes indeed.. finally somebody who knows something about this.

you see these are the emans by which man can now see the universe on a wider level..

the fact that the universe is still bases on randomness yet works like a clock most of the times.. leaves the important room for the mere idea of God.

as well as lay down how God would be necessary to control randomness.. and why on Earth.. there is so much evil and what makes people so confused as to why God made what he did.

its because man sees through a small mind, that we only see what we do.. quantum future indicates that there is a common consciousness and a God who is the master of this.

quantum physics lays down the realm that.. God is no spook, but an essentuial form/ which cannot be seen due to SPACE/TIME theory, yet a force/consciousness to which we become united with.
if this is so complicated why does man feel that he knows what this god thinks and feels for him

and can yall break down in simple words what exactly is quantum physics or our understanding of it
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i think that you may be selling yourself short

and also may be assuming a bit too much about objective reality



you can figure out exactly what objective reality consists of by continually narrowing down the 'possibilities'
wut if all of thes epossibilities exist simultaneoulsy? how could one narrow them down? let alone know which one is the true "objective reality"?
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that is correct.

objective reality is what we assume

the real reality is much more bigger

and we cannot get this as we are not control of objective reality

hope i make sense..

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo way dude

that sounds like an assumption
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if this is so complicated why does man feel that he knows what this god thinks and feels for him

and can yall break down in simple words what exactly is quantum physics or our understanding of it
quantum metaphysics put the picture of God in trems of physicality..


"God" is a consciousness connected to ours.. as we are consciousness as well. thus there is a branched possibility that through this link.. feelings are mutual etc etc
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noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo way dude

that sounds like an assumption
hmm i didnt make myself clear as i had feared..

ok.. reality.. what is it? how do you define it?
just simply..
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wut if all of thes epossibilities exist simultaneoulsy? how could one narrow them down? let alone know which one is the true "objective reality"?
i didnt say its easy man


sounds to me like you are demonstrating your 'randomness' factor

a bunch of random possibilities - the imagination truly is a wondrous thing



the true objective reality is the one you are living right now
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quantum metaphysics put the picture of God in trems of physicality..


"God" is a consciousness connected to ours.. as we are consciousness as well. thus there is a branched possibility that through this link.. feelings are mutual etc etc
quantum physics is UNDEFINED

our consciousness is gods consciousness


the only difference is that we try to discuss it with one another
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hmm i didnt make myself clear as i had feared..

ok.. reality.. what is it? how do you define it?
just simply..
reality is this
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i didnt say its easy man


sounds to me like you are demonstrating your 'randomness' factor

a bunch of random possibilities - the imagination truly is a wondrous thing



the true objective reality is the one you are living right now
OMG (whatver the "G" means.. i dont know).. but anyway

the tru objective reality may not be the one i am living in and perceiving right now... i am only perceiving myself sitting at a desk communicating to another individual named LHX.. although we both share this same reality, that in no way means that we are witnessing objective reality.

in a super simplified example, this computer may not even exist, but only in both of our perceptive minds (and the minds of those watching us communicate)
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i agree with you wholeheartedly!

my "crusade" is against the superstitious concept of an almighty father figure.. not the potential of of a "God" that is shed light on thru understanding of quantum mechanics.

imo the idea and concept of "god" that is hinted toward when one understands quantum physics is greater and mor epowerful and more far reaching than any concept of a supernatural father figure.. it makes all of that look like backwater nonsense.. if a "god" exists, the concept is so unimaginable and greater than what religion has ever conceived!



i so agree here.. much props..

indeed the God explained thorugh these emans is definitely more powerful than any man depiction.. because we see the entire truth much more deeply..

scinece can always erase the God that religion depicts.. but never the picture of God which IS. (imo i respect ur position)

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But i still do not understand what Quantum Physics is

can yall break it down ?
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reality is this
reality is much muuuuch more LHX!

we see reality in one dimension, and the worst thing.. we perceive it through means which have flaws.. ie our senses..
im not saying everything is unreal neither that everything is deceptive..
of course this is reality that we are living in the broad terminology..

however the reality we see does not stop here.. it is wider..

again i will say.. quantum knowledge has opened a window to see why this is true.
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reality is much muuuuch more LHX!

we see reality in one dimension, and the worst thing.. we perceive it through means which have flaws.. ie our senses..
im not saying everything is unreal neither that everything is deceptive..
of course this is reality that we are living in the broad terminology..

however the reality we see does not stop here.. it is wider..


again i will say.. quantum knowledge has opened a window to see why this is true.
thats it right there - how do we know its wider if we are limited to our own perception of things

hope that makes sense
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OMG (whatver the "G" means.. i dont know).. but anyway

the tru objective reality may not be the one i am living in and perceiving right now... i am only perceiving myself sitting at a desk communicating to another individual named LHX.. although we both share this same reality, that in no way means that we are witnessing objective reality.

in a super simplified example, this computer may not even exist, but only in both of our perceptive minds (and the minds of those watching us communicate)
yes indeed.. infact my short explanation that reality may just be perception, can be brielfy said here again.

we perceive reality as to what it is by seing it through how we see it.. through our senses mainly..

our senses make up a reality and as senses are truly physical and have limitations.. how do we know everything is definitely real?


ok now.. i believe in my senses to a large extent.. i would truly belive that i am talking to u guys and that i am in London and not in Tokyo at the moment..

many words that sound so definite are so conceptual!
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