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Old 12-24-2007, 06:02 AM   #16
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The so-called holidays of Christmas and of Easter have much in common, but not because these so-called holidays represent the birth of Christ or his death and ressurection.

Both of these days in fact go back to customs much more ancient then even the first ancient Christians.

They both go back to the Near East, to the area known today as Iraq.

During the Renasaince when images were being painted of Biblical themes the rulers of the Italia ruling society were used in some instances as the model for Biblical characters, and in one instance the son of Pope Alexander the 6th, Ceasere Borgia, was painted as Jesus Christ!





Machiavelli used many of Borgia's exploits and tactics as examples in The Prince and advised politicians to imitate Borgia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesare_Borgia

The ''Prince'' that billions across the world will be worshipping today is not the Prince of Peace but actually a nortorious Renasaince era Spaniard who was a Cardinal (as well as a Duke & Captain-General) who was the son of the Pope that presided over the era of the Spaniard exploits during their conquest of the Americas in the late 1400's-early 1500's.

Has anyone ever heard of the writer Alexander Dumas? He wrote the Three Musketeers and the Man in the Iron Mask, he was French, and was also at least half black.

In Volume One of Celebrated Crimes, Alexandre Dumas states that some pictures of Jesus Christ produced around Borgia's lifetime were based on Cesare Borgia, and that this in turn has influenced images of Jesus produced since that time.


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You worship false portraits of Je-eh-s-us
The grafted image, you worship, is Ce-a-s-re's


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Old 12-24-2007, 06:07 AM   #17
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Yes tru. And the Borgia family was nothing Christ-like. A bunch of murderers.
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Old 12-24-2007, 06:23 AM   #18
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The Borgias were Mario Puzos inspiration for the book the Godfather.

I also heard that in Godfather part 3, where we see corruption in the Vatican of all places, that they mention the name Ceasre Borgia. (cursed be his name forever!)

Michael Corleone also has something in common with Ceasre Borgia. Ceasre had his brother murdered in real life just like Michael had his brother whacked in the second film of the trilogy. (perhaps it's even the most famous scene of brother murdering brother in movie history?)
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Old 12-24-2007, 12:55 PM   #19
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Some truth corrupted with racism and ethnocentricity here. Very common.
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:41 PM   #20
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Some truth corrupted with racism and ethnocentricity here. Very common.

It's not ''some truth'' it's all truth. And no one is more capable of racism in its purest form then the race which made racism the phenomenon which it is today. Everything standing outside of that is either factionalism or ignorance. Racism in fact is the product of the Renasaince which your Italian forefathers started. The term ''Ethnocentricity'' is a political buzz word which those of weaker minds tend to throw around when they lack the mental capacity and/or knowledge to engage in topics such as the one you chose to throw your worthless two pence into.
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Old 12-24-2007, 03:50 PM   #21
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riiiiiiiiight...i guess you got us all with that one. You serial omitter you.
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Old 12-30-2007, 05:12 AM   #22
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Old 12-30-2007, 11:23 PM   #23
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Some truth corrupted with racism and ethnocentricity here. Very common.


Shut the fuck up, NickyDouche. You said some racist shit in the past; don't play innocent.
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Old 12-30-2007, 11:38 PM   #24
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Just because my views on Native American culture since colonialism aren't in line with other doesn't mean I dislike Native Americans.
Bottom line tho....Keph, sunny, you...your racist. You hate the white man. I don't hate any group. Thats just the truth.
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Old 12-30-2007, 11:58 PM   #25
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Blacks have very good reason to hate the rapists, murderers, colonizers, and racists who have interfered with our destiny. They have denied us our language, culture, history, and human rights. Go fuck yourself.
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Old 12-31-2007, 12:01 AM   #26
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My ancestors did none of this if you really want to get technical. You clearly have some issuess you need to iron out with the English-American former slave owning community. You are barking at the wrong European descented American mr. diggy dung.
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Old 12-31-2007, 12:06 AM   #27
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So are u saying that italians did not bring their guns and try to colonize ethiopia and interfere with Africans?
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Old 12-31-2007, 12:10 AM   #28
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My ancestors were out of the country by then....and that was Mussolini's agenda. He took advantage of a weak Italian govt. during a time when nationalism was spreading thru Europe. FInd out what the Italian people did to Mussolini when he was deposed.

But don't get it twisted, Italy has endured her share of invaders from all directions.
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Old 12-31-2007, 12:32 AM   #29
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But still my point is blacks have a right to hate caucasians from europe for the simple fact that for 1000s of years the caucasians from europe constantly invaded non-white countries like savages unjustifyably. They burned down learning centers, commited genocide, enslaved us, introduced a caste system and racist religion to control our minds and psychologically destroy us, etc.

Maybe your ancesters technically did not do these things, but people of your race did. Also White people are typically either active or passive participants in this racist system of white supremacy, and while its very hard for you whites to escape being a participant, its impossible for whites to escape your nature.

You whites are a genetic minority in this world of darker peoples, and your genetic survival tactic is racism ( exalting your white skin above others) so that you can survive.

If you are not part of the solution, your part of the problem.
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Old 12-31-2007, 12:40 AM   #30
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But still my point is blacks have a right to hate caucasians from europe for the simple fact that for 1000s of years the caucasians from europe constantly invaded non-white countries like savages unjustifyably. They burned down learning centers, commited genocide, enslaved us, introduced a caste system and racist religion to control our minds and psychologically destroy us, etc.

Maybe your ancesters technically did not do these things, but people of your race did. Also White people are typically either active or passive participants in this racist system of white supremacy, and while its very hard for you whites to escape being a participant, its impossible for whites to escape your nature.

You whites are a genetic minority in this world of darker peoples, and your genetic survival tactic is racism ( exalting your white skin above others) so that you can survive.

If you are not part of the solution, your part of the problem.
very powerful and to the point
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