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Old 06-25-2007, 12:09 AM   #196
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that last tip was a jewel you're skilling this thread Rock, thanks for the advice
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:32 AM   #197
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thanks for the quick reply man, will try and implement some of that in my next game, possibly tonight.

infact its going to be really helpful, last game i played the guy i was up against was extremely tight, obviously just waiting for a big hand. and i didnt make him pay for it, in the end he got his hand relatively early, but still had chip dominance so he destroyed me. its always hard to know what hand will be good enough to push in pre flop, with some degree of confidence that your opponent has a weaker hand. your tips are pretty good in this regard.

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Old 06-25-2007, 08:36 PM   #198
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Thanks for blessing me on Bodog Rock as soon as I get done with court tommorow I'm going to my moms house to hit the tourneys
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It's been a great month on bodog, I am challenging for overall tournament leader. here is all my cashes so far and my corresponding bankroll...

cashout-->balance day
105.00-->1955.63 -/02
278.00-->2122.63 -/02
42.50-->1942.21 -/03
144.00-->1880.86 -/04
34.16 -->1806.02 -/04
58.41 -->1831.49 -/05
72.00 -->1859.43 -/05
100.00-->1937.33 -/05
32.40 -->1767.53 -/05
125.00-->1756.76 -/06
18.00 -->1749.69 -/06
175.00-->1677.09 -/07
40.25 -->1562.84 -/07
78.00 -->1640.84 -/07
55.00 -->1537.24 -/08
36.00 -->1562.24 -/08
900.00-->2242.74 -/09 - withdrew 600
348.00-->1511.94 -/10
402.00-->1889.94 -/10
166.40-->2056.34 -/10
40.00 -->1882.89 -/11
21.00 -->1811.89 -/12
36.00 -->1724.79 -/13
1800.00->3103.29 -/15
69.00 -->3120.79 -/15
72.00 -->3100.19 -/16
56.00 -->3140.79 -/16
288.00-->3395.79 -/16
400.00-->3644.29 -/17
140.00-->3697.49 -/18
72.00 -->3689.49 -/18
72.00 -->3396.09 -/19
172.80-->3242.39 -/20
60.00 -->3187.39 -/20
966.00-->4051.39 -/21
91.50 -->4099.39 -/21
61.60 -->4105.99 -/21
120.00-->4218.49 -/21
825.00-->4953.99 -/22
401.70-->5335.69 -/22
60.00 -->5237.69 -/22
714.00-->5807.19 -/24
66.19 -->5703.98 -/24
50.00 -->5735.48 -/25
14.85 -->5684.83 -/25
36.00 -->5660.33 -/25
54.00 -->5407.83 -/25
132.00-->5311.83 -/26
178.50-->5283.83 -/26
705.60-->5796.43 -/27


cashes 50/300 total tournaments
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:11 PM   #201
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nice roll rock...puts my $150 made this month to shame...lol jk anyone who can make some money without a deposit is at least decent.

that won tourney on the 15th was key...after that seems that you placed high in a few others on average every 4 days.

The shape of my bank I now have room for more $2, 5, & 10 tournament opportunities instead of playing the dime and quarter tables.
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Old 06-30-2007, 11:00 PM   #202
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I just had to post this. This just happened to me in a tournament and is one of my favorite slowplay. I call it the third wheel or hitchhiker slow play.

blinds 15/30

ardyess is in the sb for 15
guilty sham is in the bb for 30

all fold to me and i limp in with 5s 5d in 5th position

ardyess calls

guilty sham checks

flop 10s 9d 5c

ardeyss bets 30 the minimum

guilty sham raises to 90

I flat call

ardyess calls

turn 3c

ardyess checks

guilty sham bets 210

I flat call

ardyess calls

river 9h

ardyess checks

guiltysham checks

i go all in for 710

ardyess folds

guilty sham calls and shows As Th for 2 pair tens and nines with an ace kicker

i have fives full of nines and win a pot of 2440


So what happened?

I limped in middle position because i saw that guiltysham was in the big blind and one of the looser players raising and calling raises a lot. With a hand like pocket fives my hope is to hit a set and have him controlling the action in early position. His check in the big blind surprised me (even much more so later when I found out he actually had a hand) but when the flop came 10 high with a rainbow and I hit the set in position I knew I had struck gold. I remember thinking before the betting began 'how am I gonna extract as many chips....oh wait... a bet!...a raise!!! Now I can re-raise and surely blow the original bettor off the hand, or I can hitchhike in the hand and simply call representing a top pair with an unsure kicker or a draw hand like queen jack. Not only did this plan work as ardyess called but it also induced a second bet on the turn. At this point I could have raised and again blown ardyess off the hand who at this point I put on queen jack or king jack but that three on the turn was a great card for me as I was pretty sure one of the two was drawing dead. ardyess called the 210 bet and I hoped the board paired as the river fell. The actions were a blur. they checked quickly, I went all in quickly, ardyess folded quickly and guilty sham called in a flash. The result of the hand was inevitable as far as sham was concerned but by playing it the way I did, got another 270 chips from ardyess. This is an example of a good time to slowplay and why you should always watch out for that third wheel in the hand who is slow calling everything.
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And heres how June finished...hopefully It will be enough to crack the top 3 for the site. I got my tracking number for my check for $600 so I should get that soon. Will be posting on further developments...


120.00-->5520.18 -/29
21.00 -->5541.18 -/29
16.38 -->5524.56 -/29
120.00-->5432.06 -/29
25.85 -->5435.91 -/29
180.00-->5483.91 -/29
800.00-->5777.01 -/30

I played every day only failing to cash on the 1st, 14th, 23rd and 28th. The 14th and 28th were especially horrible days in which I blew a total of $800 without cashing once.

I started the month with 2011.72 and finished with 5777.01 with a cashout of $600. A total net gain of 4365.29
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I finished 5th for the month which netted me an extra $380 in tournament credits. I just found bluffmagazine.com has the online statistics for certain sites. I registered and found my stats on bodog. check yours out, mine look like this...



Winnings:...............$17,833.34
Biggest Cash:..........$1,800.00
Average Cash:.........$151.13
Biggest Buyin:.........$100.00
Wins:.....................16...........2.87%
Seconds:................14...........2.51%
Thirds:....................8............1.44%
Top Three Rate:.....................6.82%
Final Tables:............74.........13.29%
Cashes:..................118........21.18%
Average Finish:.....................42/100
Average Field Size:....................225
Total Played:............................557


Longest Non-Cash Streak: 20
Date............Buyin.......Tournament/Event......Place....Entrants...Winnings
7/1/2007.......$20........NL Hold'em+Rebuys......11.........126........$83.28
7/1/2007.......$10...........NL Hold'em..............37.........449........$18.00
6/30/2007......$30.......NL Hold'em+Rebuys.......5...........99.......$800.00
6/29/2007......$7............NL Hold'em...............5..........322......$180.00
6/29/2007......$10..........PL Hold'em................7..........47.........$25.8 5
6/29/2007......$30..........NL Hold'em...............15.........221......$120.00
6/28/2007......$10..........NL Hold'em...............24.........234........$16.38
6/28/2007......$5........NL Hold'em+Rebuys........23.........216.......$21.00
6/28/2007......$30.......NL Hold'em+Rebuys.......13.........134......$120.00
6/26/2007......$20..........NL Hold'em................4..........504......$705.60
6/26/2007......$10..........NL Hold'em................3..........150......$178.50
6/26/2007......$50..........NL Hold'em...............18.........207......$132.00
6/25/2007......$10.......NL Hold'em+Rebuys.......14.........189........$54.00
6/25/2007......$5...........PL Hold'em.................2...........24........$36. 00
6/25/2007......$5...........NL Hold'em.................7...........54........$14. 85
6/24/2007......$20.........NL Hold'em.................31........441........$50.0 0
6/24/2007......$12.......NL Hold'em+Rebuys........11........188........$66.09
6/24/2007......$7...........NL Hold'em.................4...........77........$55. 00
6/24/2007......$10..........NL Hold'em.................2..........36.......$109.0 0
6/24/2007......$20.......NL Hold'em+Rebuys.........3........117.......$714.00
6/22/2007......$12..........NL Hold'em................11........135........$60.00
6/22/2007......$10..........NL Hold'em.................2.........18.........$71.0 0
6/22/2007......$20.......NL Hold'em+Rebuys.........5........115.......$400.40
6/21/2007......$5.........NL Hold'em+Rebuys........1.........228.......$825.00
6/21/2007......$30..........NL Hold'em................17........234.......$120.00
6/21/2007......$10..........NL Hold'em.................5..........77.........$61. 60
6/21/2007......$5............NL Hold'em................1..........61.........$91.5 0
6/20/2007......$10.......NL Hold'em+Rebuys.........2........198.......$964.00
6/20/2007......$12.......NL Hold'em+Rebuys........16........147........$60.00
6/20/2007......$20..........NL Hold'em.................3..........72.......$172.8 0
6/19/2007......$10..........NL Hold'em.................5..........90.........$72. 00
6/18/2007......$20.......NL Hold'em+Rebuys........10........113........$72.00
6/17/2007......$50..........NL Hold'em................42........629.......$140.00
6/17/2007......$7............NL Hold'em.................1..........72........$55.0 0
6/17/2007......$100.........NL Hold'em................12........243......$480.00
6/16/2007......$30..........NL Hold'em..................2.........40.......$288.0 0
6/16/2007......$5.........NL Hold'em+Rebuys.........3.........34.........$56.00
6/16/2007......$20..........NL Hold'em.................17.......117........$72.00
6/15/2007......$10..........NL Hold'em..................4.........69........$69.0 0
6/15/2007......$20.......NL Hold'em+Rebuys..........1.......108.....$1,800.00
6/13/2007......$5.........NL Hold'em+Rebuys.........5.........40.........$36.00
6/11/2007......$5.........NL Hold'em+Rebuys........25.......221.........$21.00
6/10/2007......$20..........NL Hold'em.................33.......387........$40.00
6/10/2007......$10..........NL Hold'em..................1.........40.......$109.0 0
6/10/2007......$5.........NL Hold'em+Rebuys.........8.........47.........$24.75
6/10/2007......$10..........NL Hold'em..................1.......134.......$402.00
6/10/2007......$20..........NL Hold'em..................4.......104.......$166.00
6/9/2007........$5...........NL Hold'em..................3.......207.......$348.00
6/8/2007........$10..........NL Hold'em.................2.......162........$900.00
6/7/2007........$5...........NL Hold'em.................13.......215........$36.00
6/7/2007........$10..........NL Hold'em.................14......493.........$55.00
6/7/2007........$10..........NL Hold'em.................7........115........$40.00
6/7/2007........$20..........NL Hold'em.................16......126.........$77.00
6/6/2007........$50..........NL Hold'em.................40......612.......$175.00
6/6/2007........$10..........NL Hold'em.................38......429.........$18.00
6/5/2007........$50..........NL Hold'em.................63......684.......$125.00
6/5/2007........$5...........NL Hold'em...................3.......54.........$32.4 0
6/5/2007........$12..........NL Hold'em..................6.......153......$100.00
6/5/2007........$20..........NL Hold'em.................18......120........$72.00
6/4/2007........$10..........NL Hold'em.................12......531........$58.41
6/4/2007........$10.......NL Hold'em+Rebuys.........21......215........$34.09
6/4/2007........$20..........PL Hold'em..................3........45.......$144.00
6/3/2007........$15..........NL Hold'em..................9.......162........$42.50
6/2/2007........$10..........NL Hold'em..................2.......139......$278.00
6/1/2007........$5.........NL Hold'em+Rebuys.........7.......212.......$105.00
5/31/2007......$15..........NL Hold'em..................1.......149.......$670.50
5/31/2007 .....$5............PL Hold'em..................2........36.........$43.2 0
5/30/2007......$12........NL Hold'em+Rebuys........18.......144.......$60.00
5/30/2007......$10..........NL Hold'em.................16.......459........$50.49
5/29/2007......$10........NL Hold'em+Rebuys........11.......194.......$54.84
5/29/2007......$15..........NL Hold'em..................8.........96........$64.8 0
5/29/2007......$5..........NL Hold'em+Rebuys........1.........24.......$127.50
5/29/2007......$50..........NL Hold'em.................27.......225........$78.75
5/28/2007......$5..........NL Hold'em+Rebuys........16.......250.......$36.00
5/28/2007......$10.........NL Hold'em+Rebuys........8........216......$124.54
5/27/2007......$4..........NL Hold'em+Rebuys.........1.......175......$109.00
5/26/2007......$5..........NL Hold'em+Rebuys.........5.......196......$195.00
5/26/2007......$10...........NL Hold'em.................18......441........$49.50
5/26/2007......$4.............NL Hold'em.................8.......159......$109.00
5/25/2007......$10...........NL Hold'em................42.......486........$20.00
5/25/2007......$2.............NL Hold'em.................2.......108........$99.00
5/25/2007......$12...........NL Hold'em.................5........141......$130.00
5/24/2007......$5.............NL Hold'em.................9.......195........$51.00
5/23/2007......$12.........NL Hold'em+Rebuys.......12.......153........$60.00
5/23/2007......$5.............NL Hold'em.................1.........43......$204.00
5/23/2007......$12...........NL Hold'em.................1........155......$600.00
5/22/2007......$10...........NL Hold'em.................26.......216.......$17.50
5/21/2007......$2..........NL Hold'em+Rebuys.........2.........90.......$93.20
5/20/2007......$10...........NL Hold'em.................3........207......$240.00
5/19/2007......$10...........NL Hold'em................10.......434........$55.00
5/19/2007......$2..........NL Hold'em+Rebuys.........8.........72.......$15.30
5/19/2007......$7.............NL Hold'em................26.......405.......$21.00
5/18/2007......$4.............NL Hold'em.................1........135.....$140.00
5/18/2007......$20............NL Hold'em................34.......387.......$40.00
5/18/2007......$5...........NL Hold'em+Rebuys........2.........16.......$72.00
5/18/2007......$2...........NL Hold'em+Rebuys.......16.......169.......$12.00
5/17/2007......$12............NL Hold'em................16.......162.......$24.00
5/17/2007......$2...........NL Hold'em+Rebuys.......17.......183.......$12.00
5/17/2007......$10............NL Hold'em................17.......387.......$54.00
5/16/2007......$10............NL Hold'em................18.......486.......$55.00
5/16/2007......$2...........NL Hold'em+Rebuys.......14.......171.......$12.00
5/15/2007......$4..............NL Hold'em................1........202.....$202.00
5/15/2007......$2...........NL Hold'em+Rebuys........9........162.......$17.00
5/14/2007......$4..............NL Hold'em................2........119.......$80.00
5/12/2007......$4...........NL Hold'em+Rebuys........1........147.....$109.00
5/12/2007......$7..............NL Hold'em...............22.......387.......$21.00
5/10/2007......$2...........NL Hold'em+Rebuys........9.........83.......$16.66
5/10/2007......$1..............NL Hold'em................2........150......$30.00
5/10/2007......$7..............NL Hold'em...............15.......292.......$36.00
5/8/2007........$10............NL Hold'em...............33.......495.......$25.00
5/6/2007........$10............NL Hold'em...............12.......429.......$49.50
5/4/2007........$2...........NL Hold'em+Rebuys........1.......108.....$158.40
5/4/2007........$5.............NL Hold'em.................2.........63.......$63.00
5/2/2007........$2...........NL Hold'em+Rebuys........1.......160.....$300.00
5/1/2007........$2...........NL Hold'em+Rebuys.......10.......186......$12.00
4/30/2007......$2...........NL Hold'em+Rebuys .......17......175.......$12.00
4/29/2007......$2............NL Hold'em+Rebuys.......15......117........$6.81
4/28/2007......$2............NL Hold'em+Rebuys........7........95.......$25.85

Cashes:..........118.......100.00%
Wins:..............16..........13.56%
Seconds:.........14..........11.86%
Thirds:.............8............6.78%
Final Tables:.....65.........55.08%
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lost another house game of poker tonight... the losing streak continues.
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Old 07-03-2007, 01:55 PM   #206
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lost another house game of poker tonight... the losing streak continues.
lets try and turn it around. pm me with your thoughts and problems and I will try to help you.
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thanks man, but i dunno, i seem to be playing decently and then becoming distracted or just undisiplined for a few hands and fucking up.

for instance tonight, had a large chip lead, and i was conserving well and winning the odd pot adding to my chip stack. then a hand came along that i was liking my cards. i think i had k10, and a 10 A 4 came down on the flop. and i bet representing the ace, taking a risk, still a fairly low bet though and my opponent did an over the top deliberation, which seemed to obvious to warrant any attention. i mention to him that he has a nice ace... thinking that this is what he wants me to think (i probably should keep my mouth shut lol)

next card comes down and it was irrelevant, we both check

and another ace comes out on the river, so i represent the ace again with a decent bet, and my opponent goes all in.

now instead of stopping to think "hm, this guy might have an ace", i did an auto call, and regreted it straight away. he flips his cards over an shows me his ace, killing me with 3 of a kind.

thing was, he knew the entire time that he had me beat, because he was holding the ace. so my attempt to represent it was totally void. i thought i was stringing him along, ignored his signs. i was particularly annoyed with myself at over thinking his deliberation on calling after the flop, i basically just thought that no player would be that blatant.

i go from chip leader, to handing a large chunk to him.


after this i played fairly conservatively, held my chips, doubled up once.

then i got tempted into another hand, similar situation, i cant remember the exact details. and i got destroyed again.


so i dont know where i can specifically improve....
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Sean Michael....that other guy played that move alright (although I would have been more wary with a 3 kicker). Sometimes you need to think why some people are willing to hold onto their hands and call you. It is a coincidence that Rock made a post (actually a few of them) about slow playing like this not too far back. It plays very well in the middle of tournaments....here it is:

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I just had to post this. This just happened to me in a tournament and is one of my favorite slowplay. I call it the third wheel or hitchhiker slow play.

blinds 15/30

ardyess is in the sb for 15
guilty sham is in the bb for 30

all fold to me and i limp in with 5s 5d in 5th position

ardyess calls

guilty sham checks

flop 10s 9d 5c

ardeyss bets 30 the minimum

guilty sham raises to 90

I flat call

ardyess calls

turn 3c

ardyess checks

guilty sham bets 210

I flat call

ardyess calls

river 9h

ardyess checks

guiltysham checks

i go all in for 710

ardyess folds

guilty sham calls and shows As Th for 2 pair tens and nines with an ace kicker

i have fives full of nines and win a pot of 2440


So what happened?

I limped in middle position because i saw that guiltysham was in the big blind and one of the looser players raising and calling raises a lot. With a hand like pocket fives my hope is to hit a set and have him controlling the action in early position. His check in the big blind surprised me (even much more so later when I found out he actually had a hand) but when the flop came 10 high with a rainbow and I hit the set in position I knew I had struck gold. I remember thinking before the betting began 'how am I gonna extract as many chips....oh wait... a bet!...a raise!!! Now I can re-raise and surely blow the original bettor off the hand, or I can hitchhike in the hand and simply call representing a top pair with an unsure kicker or a draw hand like queen jack. Not only did this plan work as ardyess called but it also induced a second bet on the turn. At this point I could have raised and again blown ardyess off the hand who at this point I put on queen jack or king jack but that three on the turn was a great card for me as I was pretty sure one of the two was drawing dead. ardyess called the 210 bet and I hoped the board paired as the river fell. The actions were a blur. they checked quickly, I went all in quickly, ardyess folded quickly and guilty sham called in a flash. The result of the hand was inevitable as far as sham was concerned but by playing it the way I did, got another 270 chips from ardyess. This is an example of a good time to slowplay and why you should always watch out for that third wheel in the hand who is slow calling everything.
Sometimes you need to be wary of who flopped what. When I flop a straight or a flush I only bet about 40% of the time on the flop...mostly if Im just trying to protect it. Then just call and not bet, raise, or check-raise until the turn or the river. The better and more experienced players are better at detecting what you really have instead of you trying to convince them you hit the turn or river overpair or something and might just fold. But many other players you can trap.
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I don't mind representing top pair when the board is say jack or queen high, but if you do it with an ace on board you are asking for trouble especially if you get a call. His play was the perfect set-up and the river card was a bingo for him as it disguised his hand further along with the check on the turn. These plays are killers as they snowball out of control and eat at your stack. My suggestion is to play less poker all the way and play a more definite style of poker with a big stack, that is place huge bets at shortstacks to try and steal or race and if you must bluff, try it only one barrelled on the flop and give up if called or raised. stab at small plots pre and post flop or go for the double up with big hands but dont get involved too much and watch your river betting. Dont bet mediocre hands for value and try to play "behind" your opponent on the river. This is essential in a tourny. Always try to be the last to act.
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In the back of your mind you should always be thinking that an ace could be in play. It's the #1 card to play and with more and more players it becomes more and more likely that it is being played. The very stupedest thing you can do in the game is to call an all in with a nine when kqjt is on the board. Yet I have seen it. People lie to themselves. And that can be one of the dividing lines between success and failure. Use common sense. Reason out the solution. Make the right decision. And don't let outside influences impede your decision making.
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