why does eveyone hate on post-illmatic?

[staycreepin_n_silence]

Well I like everyting but I am I am agree with everyting else Street diciple should have been one album but it's still hot to me and god son should be better. The truth is I dont want nas to diss 50 to give 50 that satisfaction of having nas acknowledge him again. Just let 50 do what he do eventually he will diss the wrong rapper and get his ass sonned

[T.H.O.M.A.S. Man]

Originally Posted by Polocash7

only so called "fans " say bullshit like that. Real heads know where Nas stands. I willing to bet that 99% of heads who say Nas fell off after Illmatic don't own any of his albums

true, ive heard people shit on everything after illmatic who have never heard anything else, or even own illmatic. one of the resons iveheard for not liking illmatic is that beats suck. that shit gets me heated, not only are the beats hot but you have to understand that the style of hip-hop, including the beats, has changed since ten years ago(for thhe betteror for the worse? your call). now people think shit like still tippin is hot.

(and before someone says it, yes i am only 15 (16 in 13 days) and no, i didnt really listen to hip-hop when i was 5. ive done my fair share of digging though..)

[Prolifical ENG]

Of course when many people speak of classic hip-hop albums, I see they are often compared to Illmatic...the short 10 track album yet they are all solid.

It is easy to compare good albums to timeless classic ones and say an artist fell off. This is especially true when their best album is the debut album, which there are many mentionable artists in that category where their first album is debated their best.

Do you really think Raekwon will make a better solo than OB4CL? It is possible but not likely. But still, his future releases will be compared to it. And if it doesnt measure up the critics are quick to judge that a particular artist has "fallen off".

POst illmatic albums do not measure up to illmatic, however they are good and will say Nas hasnt fallen off. I liked Streets Disciple...but have seen many threads on many boards that are hating on it and saying Nas "fell off".

[Gully]

Nas hasn't Fallen Off...

[Hayabusa]

For all those who hate on the beats from Illmatic tell em to cope the 10th anniversary edition beats on it is new and straight fire.

Nas always got that fire but he doesn't know what a ill beat is

[gi0vanni]

"new york state of mind pt II" is absolutely incredible.

nas has said he won't respond to fifty.

[T.H.O.M.A.S. Man]

hmm, im kinda disappointed but in a way that's good.

was this real?

"{Verse 1}
Affirmitive action verball attack word assassin
murda tactics burn a track back to Curtis Jackson
pac would turn in his casket, but you maken me laugh
to see you get in the game from all the ****s you take in the ass
while you fake on a track and act like you a gangsta in rap
theirs real street *****s who could break you in half
but since 'em signed you, you run around and claim you can rap
like 'em just paved you a path or ****in gave you a pass
a fee bee to make up for every slave that he had
or every racist comment that he made in the past
I done herd you say a million times that you killed a guy
but Black Child stabbed you and that ***** still alive
you aint even bruised no one, you have the dirty cops
do your dirty work you aint even had to use yo gun
you real hard in the studio poppin **** in a mic booth
you dont wanna have me fight you you wanna have me write you
talkin bout "Nas my son wants to be just like you"
well if you ask the street *****s eminem over hyped you
each bullet in yo ass is a symbol in its place
to remind you how hated you are when you see that dimple on yo face
just give up ***** you've taken enough
when you got all the people involved sayin you suck
and half the **** you say you just maken it up
so now your own crew members haten yo guts
***** why da **** you think yo whole crew is top charters?
cause your all pop artists your hip hop's garbadge
why the **** you think you maken the same money as Britney makes?
g-unit is a boy band ***** and 50's fake
you real tuff till g-unit gets gobbed with sticky tape
and have my *****s run up in and robb yo piggy bank

{Hook x2}
So what you gonna do when **** hits the fan
you gonna fight like a man or just kiss my ass
or threw all this hostility you piss your pants
I'm a short fuse and you lit the match

{Bridge x2}
Nas, a braveheart veteran
name an mc I aint better then
you against me you could never win
meet me in the streets we can settle this

{Verse 2}
When I'm speakin threw rap, you *****s deepin my wrath
**** mixed with emotions makes it hard to keep it on wax
cause it can steer off a track and coserveer off of rap
and have *****s jump you till your left breathin with gasps
and each have you stabbed and all of my people in masks
so you cant identify to the police who attacked
just *****s reachin for straps and heaters bringen out gats
and watch this thug turn ***** when he pees in his pants
*****s callin my name, I can turn '50 cents' into a 'Buck'
invest it in the 'Bank' and spend it all in the 'Game'
a ball and a chain with an anchor tied to your ankel
and hang you until you dangel and break you apart from each angle
and repeatededly kill you with my freedom of speech
so you can look at my lyrics and read 'em and weap
so you don't run with cops? ***** niether do we
but your right hand man is the cheif of police
beef in rap cause you aint got the balls to beef in the streets
cause you'd get another lil cute dimple on your cheek with the heat
yeah I got my wifey tattoo'd on my arm
while you got a "Nas' biggest fan" sign glued to your thong
while you shake yo lil ass for them record exects
and blow kisses and suck up so they'll send you a check
but never the less I knew about you steppin to X
but interscope made you take it off the track to settle your debts
to calm your beefs, you ***** made put a switch blade threw your rib cage
and watch your chest leak in the street like bootleg mixtapes
aint no need to dictate, line up your calvulry
you talk that gangsta **** and get it twisted with reality
ayo my pistol got the flue and my bullets got allergies
so if the trigga sneeze you gone be anotha casualty"

[Luda848]

i personally think all of his discography is decent - dope...

[Hayabusa]

Originally Posted by T.H.O.M.A.S. Man

hmm, im kinda disappointed but in a way that's good.

was this real?

I doubt it, The song to those lyrics would of been leaked I think those lyrics like 2 months old.

[T.H.O.M.A.S. Man]

yea, isaw them right after piggy bank. they're kinda nice though... i saw on allhiphop.com that nas is ready to drop his comeback though

[dns]

IWW (along with Ironman) was the first rap album/cd's I bought. You could imagine, how a twelve-years old girl was blown away. This music I was experience (from actually purchasing a cd from a record store, and no longer recording songs from the radio-when they were once good) was mind-blowing. I was always a BCC and Wu girl, but to be honest I gravitated more to Nas. I never forget the first time hearing Black Girl Lost and I Gave You Power and repeating them over and over. I could not believe someone other than Wu and BCC was rhyming in that fashion, with an immaculate/meaningful presence on the mic. I happen to love Escobar, even though Nasty Nas was what gave you Illmatic. Everything to followed Nas after that I love. Anybody else puts out Nastradamus, its a great album, but for Nas that is one of his weakest links. The Hyrdro drop skit, and Nastradamus single killed any potential classic status on that album. It's a shame not many appreciated Street's Disciple (second best double-album next to Forever). I could care less. The rest of those mindless fucks that buys that G-unot/Crunk lost.

[TUCO]

yada yada yada
stop being such spoiled brats and enjoy his shit
Illmatic was a classic, no doubt there....but damn! why hate on It was Written and Stillmatic??
even Streets Disciple was a banger! 2 cds filled with classic Nas shit....Gods Son was the one i disliked the most besides Nastrodamus
enjoy the man yo....stop bashing him

peace

[dns]

Originally Posted by Smif-N-Wessun

Nas always got that fire but he doesn't know what a ill beat is

I think his production suits him well. And he's also fire on his own beats:Sucicide Bounce and Get Down.

[T.H.O.M.A.S. Man]

that's right, i forgot he produced a few tracks of his own. there are songs i like on street disciple but i would rather it have been 1 cd with all the songs i like. it was writte=hot. god's son=fairly hot, not feeling some tracks, i am=hot, nastradamus=be serious nas.. (come get me is ill though), etc....

EDIT: lost tapes= fire