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Old 08-31-2006, 06:53 PM   #106
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he pays homage when he bites....there was no bitin on reasonable doubt...jay z is a legend
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Old 08-31-2006, 11:31 PM   #107
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you sound like a fucking idiot saying dat all the time
u sound like you're tryin to diss me and dismiss what i said. Normal reaction for people with nothing to say.
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Old 08-31-2006, 11:37 PM   #108
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he pays homage when he bites....there was no bitin on reasonable doubt...jay z is a legend
So i guess master-p was just payin homage to Pac with dat only god can judge me shit? Cuz people really thought he was bitin...hmmm funny. Maybe its not what you do but who you are that makes you either a biter or a respectful artist who recognizes past greats. And i guess everybody with a few platinum albums are legends huh?
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:56 AM   #109
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and Nas may be nice with the pen but his word doesnt mean much.
fine but he still killed it on Ether and won the so called battle.....we didnt hear shit from jay after that.....so every1 knows wssup there

anyway....im done with this & ive already commented on what jay has done to hip hop.......some1 said he pays homage? fine.....then his ENTIRE catalog is jus payin homage to MC's from NaS to Big to Snoop so he cant say he's the GOAT or king of NY, etc. since he recycles other artists rhymes consistently

bottom line is.......i never have and never felt jay's style....his wordplay is wack 2 me and his commercial success came from him being a 'Pop Artist' & jus being consistent.......releasing an album every year from when Reasonable Doubt dropped....his catalog got him over


but for example when GzA drops an album its a gem & damn near close 2 bein a CLASSIC everytime but none of jay's shit comes anywhere near that

"ahhh well maybe 1 of them shits is due...." (Reasonable Doubt like some u think so we'll give em that)...."lets see thas a 1 hit album every 10 years & thas so LAAAAAAAME!!!!!"
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Old 09-01-2006, 12:50 PM   #110
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funny thing is you didnt' even know hova was biting untill he had beef with cam, you know it all "god"
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Old 09-03-2006, 01:00 AM   #111
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funny thing is you didnt' even know hova was biting untill he had beef with cam, you know it all "god"
who da fuk said i didnt know jay was bitin until beef w/cam?......if u went back and read this entire thread from the beginning ull see that i pointed out that cam was the one who finally exposed jay (prooved it on wax that lotta jay's catalog was bitten) whether he's not a better MC than jay or not is not the point

& jay may have talent....nobody contests that but he's no where near any of the REAL all-time top tier MCs.......he even got murked by NaS after his sad lil diss track.....but NaS put him into retirement with Ether & now he signs him to DefJam & they're 'best friends' like how cam says on his diss track....haha
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Old 09-03-2006, 01:34 AM   #112
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he pays homage when he bites....there was no bitin on reasonable doubt...jay z is a legend
Yes, he did some biting on RD.
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Old 09-03-2006, 04:47 AM   #113
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You obviously have never heard Reasonable Doubt, which is better than most rappers entire catalouges, and i don't see any MC fucking with his flow
Kiddin me? Everybody brings up dat album when i talk about Jay. Da shit was so so... Normal. Nuthin new. Nuthin special... Dude touched on some deep shit here and there. LOL hell lots ah rappers do dat... I can't honestly imagine any Jay album competin against any GZA, Raekwon, GFK, or Eminem album. I feel as if you shouldn't be allowed to say dem niggas names in da same sentence. Its propaganda and bullshit corporate politics dat sold Reasonable Doubt and made it a so called classic. I doubt any of Jay's albums would survive outside of New York with no commercial support.


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just put away the leathers and put ice on the gold
chilly with enough bail money to free a big willy
high stakes, i got more at stake than philly
shoppin sprees, copin three, duece fever i guess its fully loaded,
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bouncin in the lex luger, tires smoke like buddha
50 g's to the crap shooter,
niggas can't fade me
chrome socks beamin, through my periphial i see ya schemin
stop dreamin',i leave ya body steamin
niggas is feenin, whats the meanin
i'm leanin on any nigga intervenin with the sound of my money machine-in
my cuff runnin over with hundreds
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six digits and runnin,
y'all niggas don't want it
i got the godfather flow, the don juan demarco
swear to god, don't get it fucked up - Jay- Z


Tell me dat shit ain't superficial and madd materialistic... I think i heard lil flip, T.I., Jeezy, Wayne and so many others rap about da same shit.

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LOL at you mentinoning Eminem, none of his albums come anywhere near RD, GZA and Rae have only ONE album that is better than RD, actually to be honest i like RD more than OB4CL, i like LS more than RD tho, and i like RD more than any of Ghost albums, and im a huge Wu fan, im just not a blind hater like yourself. TI and Lil Flip may have the same CONTENT as Jay in RD, but guess what? So did Rae on Cuban Linx, and Nas on IWW. But it's alright when they do it because you like them right? Jay's lyricism on RD was amazing, great punchlines, sick wordplay ect...GZA is the only Wu member thats lyrically up there with Jay, even GZA himself has said that Jay is a very clever MC.
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Old 09-03-2006, 10:47 AM   #114
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^^all rappers say the same shit, it's how hova said it...he was lyrical...a lot of yall seem to not understand what lyrcism is. dropping knowledge does not make an MC lyrical by any means. being lyrical has to do with structure.
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Old 09-03-2006, 01:25 PM   #115
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god, how do you people hate on reasonable doubt. I can understand hating on jay, but reasonable doubt??? are you serious??? that shit is certified 100% greatness, wake the fuck up
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Old 09-03-2006, 02:07 PM   #116
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^^all rappers say the same shit, it's how hova said it...he was lyrical...a lot of yall seem to not understand what lyrcism is. dropping knowledge does not make an MC lyrical by any means. being lyrical has to do with structure.

EXACTLY, and NOT too many MC's are fucking with Hov's structure.
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Old 09-03-2006, 02:28 PM   #117
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Here it is , plain and simple - Cam ruined the ROC. The feud between Dame an Jay closed the deal. These cats dont even need to be talked about when we got so much other things to talk about in hip hop. For real. We got mf's like the Wu maintaining four years after Rae said they only had a few fights left in em. It's Wu tang forever for real, that shit is serious. You got a Lyrical beast breakin records an he in a wheel chair fightin with the other half of him. The two mf's combined is a force to not be messed with. You got all types a shit going on right now an talkin bout these cats aint got no purpose. In a world where words produce action like they do , I would think that ppl are tired of The ROC altogether. idk.......
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:57 AM   #118
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the father to jay's style....main dude that he stabbed in the back and snaked to get what he has but all these kats like Beanie should have learned from that



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Old 07-25-2012, 10:53 AM   #119
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Money breeds envy

whether Jay is wack or not his huge amount of wealth and fame relative to the likes of Camron, pisses rappers like Camron off

these disses dont mean shit to Jay Z because hes getting paid more than Camron

id suggest these bitter rappers spend more time on their craft
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