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Old 05-24-2006, 06:53 PM   #1
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Default the global elitist New World Order-free alex jones documentary downloads:

wake up people, a global fascist state is quickly approaching. want to know more? go here: http://prisonplanet.tv/alex_jones_documentaries.html

at the middle of the page where it has the ID and password, put 'chrisco455' in the ID section, and 'apple' in the password section. after that, download some of these videos; if you havent researched this before, it will blow your mind. for beginners, i suggest watching '9-11: road to tyranny' first.

if youve ever seen the Matrix, then you have seen a representation of the world we're living in. watch these documentaries, this stuff is serious.
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wake up people, a global fascist state is quickly approaching. want to know more? go here: http://prisonplanet.tv/alex_jones_documentaries.html

at the middle of the page where it has the ID and password, put 'chrisco455' in the ID section, and 'apple' in the password section. after that, download some of these videos; if you havent researched this before, it will blow your mind. for beginners, i suggest watching '9-11: road to tyranny' first.

if youve ever seen the Matrix, then you have seen a representation of the world we're living in. watch these documentaries, this stuff is serious.
the bohemian grove sounds like a private club for the wealthy and influencial. there may be rituals involved but initiations occur everywhere, in college fraternities, the military, or sports teams. the wealthy can afford more spectacular rituals.

no doubt an ol' boys club exists in which members seek to benefit each other. however, talking about babylon and nonsense like that is not helpful. its just sensationalist.

furthermore, alex jones does not strike me as a particularly intelligent person. I would not rely on his work as thorough or unbiased.

interesting documentary, nevertheless.
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okay, forget about the bohemian grove if you want....look at the facts, the indications of this global government. this is not one man's opinion...hes just making observations and shedding light upon them.
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ok, for debate's sake, I'll be the devil's advocate: what is wrong with the idea of a world government?
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^that it will take fasicm to get you there for starters. and second, what a news source that you do trust? Who do you watch that's unbiased or read that's unbiased?
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good thread ballistic.
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^that it will take fasicm to get you there for starters. and second, what a news source that you do trust? Who do you watch that's unbiased or read that's unbiased?
1. does not need to be fascism. you can have a democratic world government. that is to say, take federalism to the the next level. the documentary talked about the International Criminal Court as a bad thing. Courts are democratic institutions - rule of law is part and parcel of democracy. what is wrong with making the world leaders accounable for their actions. the ICC , as opposed the International Court of Justice can actually prosecute individuals as opposed to just countries. therefore Bush and Chaney and the gang can go before the court for their actions. is that not a good thing for them to be accountable to the rest of the world?

2. as to bias. well bias exists everywhere, but I look at evidence people use to support their position. I look at their method, not just their conclusions. Just like Powell waving a vile of anthrax in front of the security council at the UN is an exercise in deception, so is the evidence advanced in the one of the films I watched on this web site.
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1) And who is holding Bush accountable right now? Those two do whatever the fuck they want. If there is a world goverment what country is gonna lead the way? It'd be the U.S. and the European Union. It'd be rich, white imperialism all over again. To which I say, fuck that.

2)Ok, I feel you on that, but one, Alex Jones is an emotional cat. I'm glad there's a guy out there that is as pissed off as he seems to be. I think we should all feel this way considering what happened, what has happened since, and what will continue to happen due to September 11th. Look on google video for "Loose Change" and go to www.911revisted.com. Both of these are straight-forward documentaries without all the emotion. But when it all comes down to it, it all points the finger at the fat cats getting rich offa the shit one way or the other. and 2, how do you know what's presented as evidence is actually real and what about the real shit you never hear of? Too many things going on to only rely on networks and corperate-owned newspapers and magazines as your only trusted sources.
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1) no ma man. it is precisely the opposite: they can get away with things because there is no oversight mechanism. notice that it is easier to break the law on the international arena, than in the domestic context (not that it does not happen). but in the domestic conext there is some level of accoutnability and some means of enforcement. while in the current international system there is prectically none for the pwerful. this is somthing that would be introduced in the world government context (btw. I am speculating about the world govenrment idea. I just think there may be merits to it, while people automatically dismiss it.)

2) you are right, major newpapars are owned by major corporations, so there is obviously a slant. what are you gonna do? on the other hand, how do I know that Alex Jones is not some crack pot trying to mislead me, maybe not intentionally, but maybe his is not skilled enough to put together the evidence, maybe he jumps to conclusions. maybe he is also biased?

so the question is, how do you judge a source of information or knowledge to be a good one? (not just a question to you, but something for me to consider as well, as I obviously take many sources for granted)
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1) The actions of 9/11 tell me, whether foreign or domestic, them fuckin cats is gettin away with it. So I don't see a one-world goverment being any different than it is now.

2) In the end everyone's biased one way or another. It's just some are biased towards the truth and others are biased towards the lie. I tend to think most coperate outfits are lyers in the long run. Like a fox camerman might catch some real shit but it never gets aired or it gets a twisted spin put on it. I think the best thing you can do is try to find a lot of different sources for the same story and try to figure it out from there.
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for the record, alex jones isnt the only guy talking about the onset of a global government...many not only agree, but bear witness to it. but watch the movies and be the judge of the facts yourself.

in theory, there is nothing wrong with a one world government. but then you factor in elitists and their plans of a system in which they control every aspect of the non-elitist life, its not so breezy. the definition of fascism, basically, is that one's life is completely given over to the government and that the state itself is more important than the actual people that make up the state. in other words, throw the facade of human rights out the door. this has been planned for a long time; throughout history there have been secret societies that acted as the 'guardians of knowledge'. they werent necessarily malicious, but when opportunities for world power and wealth emerged, they acquired malice. they own the international bank, which manages all of the world's currency...all of these government icons are mere puppets for them. they monitor the media and manipulate it, convincing everyone that things are as they seem. they want to unite the whole world officially under their rule, making steps towards this goal through ostensibly benign projects such as the 'fight against terrorism' and the UN's initiative against global warming. but all of that is vapid nonsense.

no one wants to believe it because theyre comfortable with how their life is and how it is presented to them. maybe it wouldnt be entirely wrong to choose to be one of these people if you were that flippant, but you see, soon their plans will be realized and everyone's life will be visibly altered. truthfully, i think its too late...but dont rob yourself of knowledge.
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Top 10 Signs of the Impending U.S. Police State

Allan Uthman, Buffalo Beast. | May 26 2006

Is the U.S. becoming a police state? Here are the top 10 signs that it may well be the case.

1. The Internet Clampdown

One saving grace of alternative media in this age of unfettered corporate conglomeration has been the internet. While the masses are spoon-fed predigested news on TV and in mainstream print publications, the truth-seeking individual still has access to a broad array of investigative reporting and political opinion via the world-wide web. Of course, it was only a matter of time before the government moved to patch up this crack in the sky.

Attempts to regulate and filter internet content are intensifying lately, coming both from telecommunications corporations (who are gearing up to pass legislation transferring ownership and regulation of the internet to themselves), and the Pentagon (which issued an "Information Operations Roadmap" in 2003, signed by Donald Rumsfeld, which outlines tactics such as network attacks and acknowledges, without suggesting a remedy, that US propaganda planted in other countries has easily found its way to Americans via the internet). One obvious tactic clearing the way for stifling regulation of internet content is the growing media frenzy over child pornography and "internet predators," which will surely lead to legislation that by far exceeds in its purview what is needed to fight such threats.

2. "The Long War"

This little piece of clumsy marketing died off quickly, but it gave away what many already suspected: the War on Terror will never end, nor is it meant to end. It is designed to be perpetual. As with the War on Drugs, it outlines a goal that can never be fully attained -- as long as there are pissed off people and explosives. The Long War will eternally justify what are ostensibly temporary measures: suspension of civil liberties, military expansion, domestic spying, massive deficit spending and the like. This short-lived moniker told us all, "get used to it. Things aren't going to change any time soon."

3. The USA PATRIOT Act

Did anyone really think this was going to be temporary? Yes, this disgusting power grab gives the government the right to sneak into your house, look through all your stuff and not tell you about it for weeks on a rubber stamp warrant. Yes, they can look at your medical records and library selections. Yes, they can pass along any information they find without probable cause for purposes of prosecution. No, they're not going to take it back, ever.

4. Prison Camps

This last January the Army Corps of Engineers gave Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg Brown & Root nearly $400 million to build detention centers in the United States, for the purpose of unspecified "new programs." Of course, the obvious first guess would be that these new programs might involve rounding up Muslims or political dissenters -- I mean, obviously detention facilities are there to hold somebody. I wish I had more to tell you about this, but it's, you know... secret.

5. Touchscreen Voting Machines

Despite clear, copious evidence that these nefarious contraptions are built to be tampered with, they continue to spread and dominate the voting landscape, thanks to Bush's "Help America Vote Act," the exploitation of corrupt elections officials, and the general public's enduring cluelessness.

In Utah, Emery County Elections Director Bruce Funk witnessed security testing by an outside firm on Diebold voting machines which showed them to be a security risk. But his warnings fell on deaf ears. Instead Diebold attorneys were flown to Emery County on the governor's airplane to squelch the story. Funk was fired. In Florida, Leon County Supervisor of Elections Ion Sancho discovered an alarming security flaw in their Diebold system at the end of last year. Rather than fix the flaw, Diebold refused to fulfill its contract. Both of the other two touchscreen voting machine vendors, Sequoia and ES&S, now refuse to do business with Sancho, who is required by HAVA to implement a touchscreen system and will be sued by his own state if he doesn't. Diebold is said to be pressuring for Sancho's ouster before it will resume servicing the county.

Stories like these and much worse abound, and yet TV news outlets have done less coverage of the new era of elections fraud than even 9/11 conspiracy theories. This is possibly the most important story of this century, but nobody seems to give a damn. As long as this issue is ignored, real American democracy will remain an illusion. The midterm elections will be an interesting test of the public's continuing gullibility about voting integrity, especially if the Democrats don't win substantial gains, as they almost surely will if everything is kosher.

Bush just suggested that his brother Jeb would make a good president. We really need to fix this problem soon.

6. Signing Statements

Bush has famously never vetoed a bill. This is because he prefers to simply nullify laws he doesn't like with "signing statements." Bush has issued over 700 such statements, twice as many as all previous presidents combined. A few examples of recently passed laws and their corresponding dismissals, courtesy of the Boston Globe:


--Dec. 30, 2005: US interrogators cannot torture prisoners or otherwise subject them to cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment.


Bush's signing statement: The president, as commander in chief, can waive the torture ban if he decides that harsh interrogation techniques will assist in preventing terrorist attacks.


--Dec. 30, 2005: When requested, scientific information ''prepared by government researchers and scientists shall be transmitted [to Congress] uncensored and without delay."


Bush's signing statement: The president can tell researchers to withhold any information from Congress if he decides its disclosure could impair foreign relations, national security, or the workings of the executive branch.


--Dec. 23, 2004: Forbids US troops in Colombia from participating in any combat against rebels, except in cases of self-defense. Caps the number of US troops allowed in Colombia at 800.


Bush's signing statement: Only the president, as commander in chief, can place restrictions on the use of US armed forces, so the executive branch will construe the law ''as advisory in nature."

Essentially, this administration is bypassing the judiciary and deciding for itself whether laws are constitutional or not. Somehow, I don't see the new Supreme Court lineup having much of a problem with that, though. So no matter what laws congress passes, Bush will simply choose to ignore the ones he doesn't care for. It's much quieter than a veto, and can't be overridden by a two-thirds majority. It's also totally absurd.

7. Warrantless Wiretapping

Amazingly, the GOP sees this issue as a plus for them. How can this be? What are you, stupid? You find out the government is listening to the phone calls of US citizens, without even the weakest of judicial oversight and you think that's okay? Come on -- if you know anything about history, you know that no government can be trusted to handle something like this responsibly. One day they're listening for Osama, and the next they're listening in on Howard Dean.

Think about it: this administration hates unauthorized leaks. With no judicial oversight, why on earth wouldn't they eavesdrop on, say, Seymour Hersh, to figure out who's spilling the beans? It's a no-brainer. Speaking of which, it bears repeating: terrorists already knew we would try to spy on them. They don't care if we have a warrant or not. But you should.

8. Free Speech Zones

I know it's old news, but... come on, are they fucking serious?

9. High-ranking Whistleblowers

Army Generals. Top-level CIA officials. NSA operatives. White House cabinet members. These are the kind of people that Republicans fantasize about being, and whose judgment they usually respect. But for some reason, when these people resign in protest and criticize the Bush administration en masse, they are cast as traitorous, anti-American publicity hounds. Ridiculous. The fact is, when people who kill, spy and deceive for a living tell you that the White House has gone too far, you had damn well better pay attention. We all know most of these people are staunch Republicans. If the entire military except for the two guys the Pentagon put in front of the press wants Rumsfeld out, why on earth wouldn't you listen?

10. The CIA Shakeup

Was Porter Goss fired because he was resisting the efforts of Rumsfeld or Negroponte? No. These appointments all come from the same guys, and they wouldn't be nominated if they weren't on board all the way. Goss was probably canned so abruptly due to a scandal involving a crooked defense contractor, his hand-picked third-in-command, the Watergate hotel and some hookers.

If Bush's nominee for CIA chief, Air Force General Michael Hayden, is confirmed, that will put every spy program in Washington under military control. Hayden, who oversaw the NSA warrantless wiretapping program and is clearly down with the program. That program? To weaken and dismantle or at least neuter the CIA. Despite its best efforts to blame the CIA for "intelligence errors" leading to the Iraq war, the picture has clearly emerged -- through extensive CIA leaks -- that the White House's analysis of Saddam's destructive capacity was not shared by the Agency. This has proved to be a real pain in the ass for Bush and the gang.

Who'd have thought that career spooks would have moral qualms about deceiving the American people? And what is a president to do about it? Simple: make the critical agents leave, and fill their slots with Bush/Cheney loyalists. Then again, why not simply replace the entire organization? That is essentially what both Rumsfeld at the DoD and newly minted Director of National Intelligence John are doing -- they want to move intelligence analysis into the hands of people that they can control, so the next time they lie about an "imminent threat" nobody's going to tell. And the press is applauding the move as a "necessary reform."

Remember the good old days, when the CIA were the bad guys?
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exactly...this stuff is really horrifying.
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