Why did RZA abandon Poetic?

[TAURO]

Originally Posted by ~GENERAL_WISE~

RZA is cold hearted, first gravediggaz now Wu-tang in general.

Idiot.

[Lil' Ruger]

lol

[Kriszy Substance]

Originally Posted by TAURO DA GRIM LATIN

I want Rza to address this issue with us at the corp and if not then maybe Cilva can find out something for us. I won't judge Rza because at the end of the day he is human like the rest of us and is also capable of making mistakes, many of us fans look up to the wu in such a heroic light that it almost seems unfair because they get judged twice as hard by us when they mess up.

Most people here are passing judgement on Rza based on this article when everyone knows that things can get twisted and misquoted by the media.
Im not trying to defend Rza but rather im keeping an open mind until I hear all the facts, until then I suggest people should just focus on their own lives and reserve from prejudging Rza or others for that matter.

Well said.

[deadlymelody]

It's a very cold hearted thing to do on RZA's part, if it's true.

[Lil' Ruger]

i cant believe RZA did that i wont believe!

[hectis]

Originally Posted by TAURO DA GRIM LATIN

I want Rza to address this issue with us at the corp and if not then maybe Cilva can find out something for us. I won't judge Rza because at the end of the day he is human like the rest of us and is also capable of making mistakes, many of us fans look up to the wu in such a heroic light that it almost seems unfair because they get judged twice as hard by us when they mess up.

Most people here are passing judgement on Rza based on this article when everyone knows that things can get twisted and misquoted by the media.
Im not trying to defend Rza but rather im keeping an open mind until I hear all the facts, until then I suggest people should just focus on their own lives and reserve from prejudging Rza or others for that matter.

IF I COULD GIVE U REP POINT I WOULD MAYBE RZA JUST CAN'T DEAL WITH SHIT LIKE THAT I KNOW PEOPLE WHO ARE THE SAME WAY THEY LOVE THEM BUT CAN'T DEAL WITH THE DIEING AND SHIT

[Lil' Ruger]

maybe i didnt wanna see my grandma dead

he prolly had flash backs and shit of all of em in they lab having a good time and he realizes that it will never happen again

[rubyspirit]

There's too much criticism here toward Wu-Tang Clan. I thought you admired these guys!

Death is a act of God. RZA has to deal with what happens in his life, with his God, himself! I'm sure he wonders why Poetic was taken out of the world with cancer, but he can't question it. His life goes on.

As we can see with the issue at the concert when U-God gave him the finger, RZA has a lot to deal with now, and he did then too. Support him, and stop being so negative.

[GENERAL WISE]

Originally Posted by TAURO DA GRIM LATIN

I want Rza to address this issue with us at the corp and if not then maybe Cilva can find out something for us. I won't judge Rza because at the end of the day he is human like the rest of us and is also capable of making mistakes, many of us fans look up to the wu in such a heroic light that it almost seems unfair because they get judged twice as hard by us when they mess up.

Most people here are passing judgement on Rza based on this article when everyone knows that things can get twisted and misquoted by the media.
Im not trying to defend Rza but rather im keeping an open mind until I hear all the facts, until then I suggest people should just focus on their own lives and reserve from prejudging Rza or others for that matter.

RZA is a snake slither!

[Luz]

You guys are only hearing one side. They obviously has some kind of beef before Poetic knew about the cancer. People don't always stay friends forever.

[Lil' Ruger]

GENERAL WISE STFU lol

[maestro wooz]

interesting stuff

[snapple]

Originally Posted by pimptastic

GENERAL WISE STFU lol

haha why are you catching feelings, RZA earned a reputation for being a shadeball and being a control freak.

[Sun Tzu, Tha Soul Controllah]

it's a shame so many people are trying to defend this

[Dominus Santorini]

Let's not forget that RzA is a business man and may have led Poetic to believe that they are good friends, but It's feasible to believe he may not have viewed Poetic as anything more than an acquaintance.

I don't think we should forget that Rza is a human.

I also distinctly remember RzA saying that once Prince Paul left, Gee Street gave him complete rights of Gravediggaz and RzA boasted that it was because of him that Gravediggaz still recorded. He stated he had a 18 point deal to record Bobby Digital and had the sole choice to scrap Gravediggaz, he says he chose to make another record. My point is, he made such a big deal about it, its almost as if he was developing a bad relationship with the crew. I'll try and find the article.

Here's Frukwan's response to a question:
" Q. Rza is obviously absent this time around, is he still a part of the Gravediggaz family?

A." Uhm..... I dunno...you have to ask Rza that. Me and Poetic knew what we had to do. Prince Paul showed his love, but I can't speak for the Rza, I can only speak for Fruitkwan the Gatekeeper and Poetic the Grym Reaper..."

I kind makes one think that there is something going on backstage. It doesn't seem to be a "oh ya Rza's that nigga, its all good", its more like "I don't know where Rza is at, Prince paul loved us, but RzA is absent"

Here's a very telling quote
"But things quickly went south. The RZA lost interest in the Gravediggaz when his real love, the Wu-Tang Clan, blew up. The Diggaz's second album, 1997's The Pick, The Shovel and The Sickle, featured less of the RZA and Prince Paul, but the album's cover featured RZA much more prominently than the other members. According to Poetic, the RZA was only convinced to do the second album when Gee Street allowed his production company to control the project. Still, the album evoked the Wu's dirty, insistent sound—plus their trademark biblical speak—and RZA shone the spotlight to his latest acolytes, Tru Master, Goldfinghaz and 4th Disciple. "Babylon is never penalized for being offside/So many lost lives," Poetic shot off on the meandering "The Day The Earth Cried.” Not long after, the foursome was reduced to Fruitkwan and Poetic."

I personally think there was no "real friendship" going on, and if you were to ask Rza his feeling towards the Gravediggaz it would end in "its nothing personal, its just business"