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View Poll Results: Cilvaringz-I
5/5 Classic 50 17.92%
4/5 Wu Banger 135 48.39%
3/5 Average 56 20.07%
2/5 Ehh..okay 21 7.53%
1/5 Sucks ass 17 6.09%
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Old 03-30-2007, 10:32 PM   #1
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(just want to point out that this is a review of the Japanese version...i understand that the US version MIGHT be a little different sounding..)

first off, i really like the album artwork and design and stuff on this version...the cover is the one that used to be on the Corp front page wit Cilva holdin a sword across...and i really like the art on the back and on a few pages in the booklet, its like that pastel kinda painting of the desert and red sky..looks dope...

and i like the Cilvaringz sign and symbol (seen at the top right of this page)....the one with the star and half-moon is very cool....

now, onto the album...

Poison Ring Chamber (Intro)
love this shit....little skit from (i believe) 8-Diagram Pole Fighter...great opening
5/5


Wu-Tang Martial Expert feat Rza
intro cuts right into this....
we're all pretty familiar with this one i assume...really dissappointing that Rza don't spit a verse (i was really dyin to hear him spit on this beat) he just yells shit in between Cilva's verses...
beat is ill i always loved this....Cilva is ehh on the mic here...flows pretty tight but lyrics are kinda weak
4/5

The Weeping Tiger feat Raekwon (NOT GHOST AND RZA)

fuckin LOVE this joint...beat is so fuckin ill and triumphant...shit gets me hyped..
everything sounds so good on here, the mastering is perfect....very clean sounding....not impressed wit Cilva's spittin on here and his flow kind of annoys me (alot of that on this album I thought)
Raekwon fuckin SLAUGHTERS it....he murks this track for reall.....makes me believe OB4CL2 could be some amazing classic-ness
also, it lists Ghost but he just says some shit in the beginning and end....its blatant false advertising to list Rza here, he does the beat but i dont think he says anything....maybe some yelling in the beginning....not cool but still:
5/5


Sheherezad My Beloved (Greatest Love Story Ever Told-Chapter 1)
definitely not the greatest love story ever told....beat is cool, i like the saxophone sound at the tail end of the beat...
starts off with a phone message from a girl and then breaks into the song..
okay, as i said the beat is cool but i'm not really likin Cilva's rappin on here...nothin too special, sounds kinda forced too..its a love song it should just be comin out from the heart..
i fuckin HATE the guy sayin "i love you" on the chorus..annoys me for some reason...and Cilva raps the All I Need chorus except he don't say "u got the good power-U"
3.5/5

"Death to America"

i'm gonna have alot to say about this....not all right now but definitely in the future...
when i first heard the accapella live version of this on this site i was struck by it like wow that shit is deep and straight from the heart...like i was totally feelin the whole thing
on here it seems really forced...
in the beginning its supposed to make u feel like you are in Arabia and Cilva is sayin some crap about it....(i dont get the Arabia stuff..thought he was from Morocco and chills in Netherlands sometimes)
but what really bothers me now about this is that its just totally un-informed....9/11 was an inside job dude, do the fuckin knowledge....most ppl around the globe (except in US) are seeming to get it now...and Osama aint "fightin" the US, he's been a CIA guy since the 80s....once again, do the knowledge...me and Eric Unseen been postin plenty of stuff about this in KTL
all the stuff about hatin on Bush is just like unnecessary...the guy is a complete fuckin idiot but hes not controlling or really doin anything...hes just the poor dumb-fuck who's gotta try and explain and justify and lie about this stuff (totally un-eloquently) to the public...if u think that hes the one responsible for all this shit then u really need to open up a book (not that Gnome Chomsky shit either, check the true intellects dude [Nafeez Ahmed, Webster Tarpley, Peter Dale Scott, David Ray Griffin, Steven Jones especially])
1/5

In the Name of Allah feat Masta Killa, Killah Priest, Shabazz, Rza, Method Man
Meth shouldn't be listed here cuz he only talks (and i can't imagine him fitting in well on this song anyways) and Shabazz is only on the hook which is a dissappointment...
this song is fuckin ILL tho i must say...beat is amazing, Masta calmly rips it, Rza spits pretty nicely and Killah Priest fuckin murders everything...dude is too poetic and artistic..
i'll be honest here, Cilva stinks on here im sorry...his flow is just bored-sounding and i'm not feelin his lyrics especially the last line about how the Qur'an says Jesus wasnt killed by the Romans and so the Bible cant be trusted.....gee, thanks for the insight...a little small-minded to say the least....
the Bible can't be "trusted" for many reasons, first of which is because its not a fuckin history textbook...
beat carries on for a while afterwards, maybe somebody else cooda jumped on here but its still fire..
5/5

Jewels feat Gza/Genius
maybe my favorite joint on here...i really like Cilva's rappin on here and the beat suits the song well i feel...
when the beat flips and Gza spits its all over..beat is flames and Gza just drops pure jewel-ness on only like 6 bars.....very tight song
5/5

Brothers Ain't Brothers
funny cuz when i first heard the live version of this on this site i loved the beat....simple little ill guitar flippin on SICK drums....and then i find out its a Bronze beat and its like no surprise..
dont really like the lyrics or flow here....the flow is like the kinda flow u hear at a concert, just like yelling and a shitload of punches.....and its hard to get what the hell is being spoken about in the song because its like inside stuff that we know nothing about...
AND it occurred to me today that if theres this kinda bullshit beef within the killa bee camp then thats a problem.....we don't need this kinda corny shit (Cilva called Remedy a "zionist" in a post here recently....we dont need that kinda fuckin shit dude...enough bullshit goin on around the world, how about payin attention to Gza's words in the previous song)
3/5
(just cuz the beat is tight)


Blazing Saddles feat Killarmy
i remember hearin this beat on 3rd Chambers, love this shit....sampling is ill, and the beat flips a couple times nicely..
Beretta is alright on here, nothin special...Cilva is ehhh....Shogun is terrible
3/5


Caravanserai-Chapter 1 feat Raekwon (skit)
the shit is kinda stupid to say the least...
i get the feeling with all these little things of members talkin that he was tryin to emulated OB4CL when they wood just be speakin random shit sometimes...doesnt work well on here...
its Rae on the phone wit Cilva....Cilvaringz tries like hes tryin too much to speak gangster and black n shit man....i mean, i live on Staten Island and i hate the way i talk and my accent and shit....im embarrassed by it when i speak to professors or intellectual kinda ppl...and hearin ppl try to emulate that shit is kinda annoying
no rating just a dumb skit

Damascus
i dig this joint...same beat as Oldest Chamber but better lyrics..
but, even though the lyrics are dope, Cilva's flow bothers me...can't explain why...
i think its cuz hes using that speaking kind of flow that Jay-Z uses most of the time...hard for me to put my finger on it...
3.5/5

Caravanserai-Chapter 2 feat Raekwon and Salah Edin(skit)
more stupidity....and i dont get the little thing Cilva says in the beginning...just a really gay and stupid skit i think

Two Missed Calls...(skit)

this is exactly what we figured it would be.....2 messages from Pharell and Ne-Yo (2 guys who i, and probly alotta Wu fans, dont like or have no interest in)...just a lame attempt at tryin to sound "popular" or whatever i dono...
ppl ain't gonna call Cilva no more after he dont answer them and then puts their messages on his album..
seriously though, i don't care who you're friends with if u got skills i'm gonna like ur shit, if not i'm not....this shit dont belong on this album at all


Dart Tournament feat Killa Sin and Blue Rasberry

this shit is fuckin FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRE.....love it...Cilvaringz is dope on here and then Killa Sin just goes crazy on it...
and i love the beat (Cilva has some serious beat-making skills)...i heard this a while ago but it just sounds so good on here i love it...i've been blastin this shit in my car the last 2 days..
5/5


The Saga...

love this shit too...another beat that i remember from 3rd Chambers thats totally dope...
Cilva speakin some real shit on here..i really think he could flowed MUCH better over the tone of this jam but i cant hate cuz this is just a great song i gotta give it up...
nice slow beat with a good rhythm and drums and occasional guitar sound
5/5


Forever Michael (Wacko Tablo)

this song is actually not too bad....not bad at all actually..i mean the content is kinda corny and not very Wu-like but i must say this:
-the beat is flames
-Cilva flows nicely on here
-he's spittin some good shit..makin good points and its a heartfelt song
i'm not really an MJ fan (not a hater tho really) but this song aint too bad at all...i thought it would suck
i skip it sometimes when im listenin to the album but its just cuz im not in the mood to hear about Michael Jackson...but its a well-done song
chorus is a little annoying but ill still give it:
4/5


Elephant Juice
incredible 4th Disciple beat here, slow with some violin, piano and a little guitar....i like this song alot, Cilva speakin on some good points how all these celebrities are just phonies....he holds it down on these solo songs for sure...this might be his best flow on the album...
i didn't like girl singing on it at first listen but im gettin used to it...
4.5/5
EDIT: its gotta be 5/5...this beat is just TOOO crazy...LOVE this song, really grew on me..


Deaf, Dumb and Blind

the fuckin faggy idiot singin the chorus had me so mad when i first heard this it almost ruined the whole album for me....sounds like some corny folk singer or somethin...i hate him
beat is the same as Epic of Bitter Triumph but a different (and better) lyrics...
some seemingly controversial stuff here as hes speakin out against the 5% nation (even tho some of his features, at the very least, used to be 5ers)
i really can't get over this guy on the chorus though he just kills the song for me, i always have to skip it....hes just so gay-sounding
if you can make it through, theres a Malcolm clip at the end
3/5

Warriors and Poets (skit)
just a quick little thing from what seems like an old Muslim movie about the battles when Muhammad was first rising up in Arabia...("the Prophet has commanded us to rule the world!!")
its kinda stupid i think cuz it just doesnt fit the album really...ill elaborate more at the end

Valentine Day Massacre feat 9th Prince, 60 Sec Assassin, Shabazz the Disciple and Blue Rasberry
most of us have heard this one before..
i never really liked this beat that much but 9th is pretty nice on here...actually everyone is good (especially Shabazz) except for 60 Sec...
3.5/5


Poison Ring Chamber (outro) feat Method Man
Method Man just sayin some stupid crap ("stay on top of ya game playboy") and then a quick kung-fu flick sample and we're out...

Overall i give it a 4/5


pretty much every beat is fuckin great but there's a couple things that annoy me about this album: Cilva's flow is whack sometimes, i don't like some of the singing (theres alot of it) on here it gets annoying when ur trying to hear some hard Wu shit, the listed guys not spitting verses (im talking about Ghost, Rza, Meth)............AND what is evident upon first listen is that there is no consistent mood or feeling throughout the album.....it starts off with the 8 Diagrams sample and its so tight and ur expecting some Shaolin Wu shit all throughout the album but then u got those 2 dumb skits then the cell phone messages and stuff (not to mention the Death to America thing which is just corny i think)...and then it cuts out with another dope Wu kung-fu sample...

i'll say this though...i think when the full version comes out with the DVD and all that this will be like a 10/10 must-have Wu package...but the album itself has some flaws
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01- Poison Ring Chamber (Intro)
02- Wu-Tang Martial Expert ft. Prince Rakeem "The RZA"
03- The Weeping Tiger ft. Shallah Raekwon, Ghostface Killah & Prince Rakeem "The RZA"
04- Sheherezad, My Beloved (The Greatest Love Story Ever Told - Chapter I)
05- Death To America
06- In The Name Of Allah ft. Prince Rakeem "The RZA", Method Man, Masta Killa, Scientific Shabaz & Killah Priest
07- Jewels / Christ & Judas ft. GZA/Genius
08- Brothers Ain't Brothers
09- Blazing Saddles feat. Killarmy
10- Caravanserai - Chapter I ft. Shallah Raekwon
11- Damascus
12- Caravanserai - Chapter II ft. Shallah Raekwon & Salah Edin
13- Two Missed Calls... (Skit)
14- Dart Tournament ft. Killa Sin & Blue Raspberry
15- The Saga...
16- Forever Michael (Wacko Tablo)
17- Elephant Juice (Lip reads "I love you" )
18- Deaf, Dumb & Blind
19- Warriors & Poets (Skit)
20- Valentine Day Massacre ft. 9th Prince, 60 Sec Assassin, Scientific Shabazz & Blue Ras
21- Poisen Ring Chamber (Outro) ft. Method Man


My Font = Highlights after 2 listens....Shit is dope
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"Death to America"

i'm gonna have alot to say about this....not all right now but definitely in the future...
when i first heard the accapella live version of this on this site i was struck by it like wow that shit is deep and straight from the heart...like i was totally feelin the whole thing
on here it seems really forced...
in the beginning its supposed to make u feel like you are in Arabia and Cilva is sayin some crap about it....(i dont get the Arabia stuff..thought he was from Morocco and chills in Netherlands sometimes)
but what really bothers me now about this is that its just totally un-informed....9/11 was an inside job dude, do the fuckin knowledge....most ppl around the globe (except in US) are seeming to get it now...and Osama aint "fightin" the US, he's been a CIA guy since the 80s....once again, do the knowledge...me and Eric Unseen been postin plenty of stuff about this in KTL
all the stuff about hatin on Bush is just like unnecessary...the guy is a complete fuckin idiot but hes not controlling or really doin anything...hes just the poor dumb-fuck who's gotta try and explain and justify and lie about this stuff (totally un-eloquently) to the public...if u think that hes the one responsible for all this shit then u really need to open up a book (not that Gnome Chomsky shit either, check the true intellects dude)
1/5
hahahaha funny dude. true intellects, like David Icke and Alex Jones? Chomsky is great, you should read him sometime, might get your head back on track kid
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hahahaha funny dude. true intellects, like David Icke and Alex Jones? Chomsky is great, you should read him sometime, might get your head back on track kid
im talkin about Webster G. Tarpley, David Ray Griffin, Peter Dale Scott....not the other 2 dudes even though they say some real shit they're whackos..

and Chomsky is, of course, a world-renowned political writer but the reason i say that about him is because the dude just dismisses the 9/11 Truth stuff....i can elaborate, but check this link: http://abdielsroom.blogspot.com/

Chomsky is a tool..he ain't helping the cause
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Noam Chomsky.

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i did that as a joke...

and heres 2 threads where me and Unseen posted plenty of shit about 9/11
http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33377

http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29072
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Fuck MJ , he shoulda left that shit off and he woulda had a classic. Yes, I listened to the song and gave it its once due. Though the beat is nice its still a poor track.

Saying that its decent is like saying that even though you went to some place to eat and got a hair in your food , the food still looked really good.

I voted this shit a wu banga though.
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for all u guys giving it 5/5 how bout saying something about your vote??
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I also think that Cilva has touches of Mef mixed with ODB in his flow. He has his own style but his vocal will just have hints of them two in it. Its odd.
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i did that as a joke...

and heres 2 threads where me and Unseen posted plenty of shit about 9/11
http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33377

http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29072
Your an idiot....i looked at half the jargon in that thread and fucked off............
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Is Killa Sin outta Jail yet????
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It ain't a wu banger and it ain't average.I wont vote but I'll say it's good
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Your an idiot....i looked at half the jargon in that thread and fucked off............
thanks....i hope you continue to fuck off..

re: the "jargon"...actually Unseen's thread is much more articulate and eloquent than the one i made cuz in the one i made i was just trying to post links to this guy's lectures...

Unseen is trying to give u the facts straight up...
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