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[IronSheik]

1st it was Moss (who's a cancer to the lockeroom) and now Jacobs....wtf is Baalke thinking?




https://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/...24004216721409

[llBARlllCODEll]

keeps gettin worse an worse for Ryan Leaf. u would think that being one of the NFL's biggest dissapointments would be enough. after being released on bail on Friday, was arrested again today on similar charges

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...headline_stack

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Jamarcus Russell will have to get arrested now.

[infinite vagina]

Every NFL team is getting a new uniform.

[llBARlllCODEll]

they say its just new technology tho. not really changes in the design or color schemes. supposed to be stronger and lighter material from nike

maybe i was misinformed



guess we'll have to wait till the seaseon starts to see

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Originally Posted by llBARlllCODEll

keeps gettin worse an worse for Ryan Leaf. u would think that being one of the NFL's biggest dissapointments would be enough. after being released on bail on Friday, was arrested again today on similar charges

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...headline_stack

Shame Leaf was such an emotional mess and as stupid as he was. He had a fucking cannon for an arm! If he didn't have his mental issues, he truly could have been one hell of a QB! All he had to do was work hard and dedicate himself to being a smart football player and minimizing his mistakes. He didn't seem to care enough to do it though.

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Torry Holt is back with the Rams

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...holtretirement

[IronSheik]

In the speech at the team’s hotel near the San Francisco Airport, Williams – according to documentary filmmaker Sean Pamphilon – at one point made a hand signal suggesting he would personally pay for a ferocious shot on 49ers quarterback Alex Smith.



Williams’ speech, delivered less than two months before the Saints’ bounty scandal became public, was revealed to Yahoo! Sports by Pamphilon, who had access to various team functions for much of the 2011 season.
Pamphilon, who directed the critically acclaimed “Run Ricky Run” documentary for ESPN, is working on a project featuring former Saints special teams ace Steve Gleason, who is suffering from ALS. Pamphilon has released an audio recording of the profanity-laced speech (also obtained and listened to by Yahoo! Sports) on his website and said he believes “there’s no doubt at all” that Williams put a bounty on Smith in the meeting.

Said Pamphilon: “At one point Williams says, ‘We hit [expletive] Smith right there’ – then he points under his chin [and continues] – ‘remember me.’
Then he rubs his thumb against his index and middle fingers – the cash sign – and says, ‘I got the first one. I got the first one. Go get it. Go lay that [expletive] out.’


Early in the 12-minute speech, Williams told his players, “Kill the head, the body will die” – one of the coach’s signature phrases, according to numerous current and former Saints defenders. In this case, Williams designated 49ers halfback Frank Gore as “the head” and then ratcheted up the rhetoric.
“We’ve got to do everything in the world to make sure we kill Frank Gore’s head,” Williams told the players. “We want him running sideways. We want his head sideways.”


Then, referencing backup halfback Kendall Hunter, Williams continued: “Little 32, we want to knock the [expletive] out of him. He has no idea what he’s in for. When he’s on the sideline, we’ve gotta turn that [expletive] over, turn their coaches over, turn the spectators over. Go and get that [expletive] on the sidelines.”


After talking about the prospect of players laying a “remember me” shot on Smith, Williams said, “We’re gonna swarm. We’re gonna dominate the line of scrimmage. And we’re gonna kill the [expletive] head. Every single one of you, before you get off the pile, affect the head … continue to touch and affect the head.”

Late in Williams’ speech, he made clear references to the potential infliction of injury upon specific 49ers players. The first player in question was Kyle Williams, who’d suffered several previous concussions.
“We need to find out in the first two series of the game, the little wide receiver, No. 10, about his concussion,” Williams said to the Saints’ defenders. “We need to [expletive] put a lick on him, move him to decide. He needs to decide.”
Alex Smith was one of the Saints' targets



Then Williams continued that theme in reference to Crabtree, the 10th overall pick of the 2009 NFL draft: “We need to decide whether Crabtree wants to be a fake-ass prima donna or he wants to be a tough guy. We need to find that out, and he becomes human when you [expletive] take out that outside ACL.”

At that point, Williams turned his attention to Gore and Pro Bowl tight end Vernon Davis, saying, “We need to decide on how many times we can meet Frank Gore’s head. We need to decide how many times we can bull rush and we can [expletive] clip Vernon Davis’ ankles over the pile … respect comes from them fearing us.”


Pamphilon said he became uncomfortable when Gregg Williams referenced the player’s prior concussion, especially given the subject matter of one of his current projects, “The United States of Football.” The documentary, said Pamphilon, is “a cultural examination of football, from pee wee to the pros, which looks at the media’s effect upon the way the game is played and celebrated, the proper coaching mentality and the effect of concussions and repetitive head trauma.”


Pamphilon said he was further troubled when, following the New York Giants’ NFC championship game victory over the 49ers, two Giants players said they’d targeted Williams – whose two fumbles helped doom San Francisco to its overtime defeat – because of his concussion history.

“When [Gregg Williams] was talking about the Gore stuff and saying ‘cut off the head,’ I was thinking, ‘That’s a metaphor,’ ” Pamphilon says. “The thing that really got me was when he said the thing about No. 10 and concussions. I thought, ‘Did he just say that?’ That was the red flag for me. And then the comments by the Giants made it hit home even harder.”




(The filmmaker explained the jumps in the audio posted on his website thusly: “I was shooting off and on with two different cameras. I gave up every single word I shot him saying – in order – and if Gregg Williams wants an independent audio specialist to examine my files, I am cool with that.”) Based on his time around the team and conversations with numerous players, Pamphilon said he believes Williams’ words carried tremendous weight with his players.


“During my time with the team, numerous sources told me that Williams used to go around bragging that he had a ‘[expletive] you’ clause in his contract – that he could basically do whatever he wanted in terms of running the defense, with complete autonomy,” Pamphilon said. “The message was clear: ‘I’m running [expletive]. If you don’t do it my way, you’ll be gone.’ ”

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That dude and the Saints head coach are dirtbags.

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I'll be extremely disappointed in the NFL if they EVER let this piece of shit coach again.

[llBARlllCODEll]

it made me laugh when he said "we need to find out in the first two series" because what happened to Pierre Thomas on the saints first or second posession

[Art Vandelay]

Originally Posted by llBARlllCODEll

they say its just new technology tho. not really changes in the design or color schemes. supposed to be stronger and lighter material from nike

maybe i was misinformed



guess we'll have to wait till the seaseon starts to see

the nhl and reebok are 5 years ahead of the nfl and nike..

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?...nhl&id=2739293

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-Vince Young sees himself as a starter


Free-agent quarterback Vince Young has yet to sign with a new team for the 2012 season. Jason Campbell, David Garrard, Caleb Hanie, Chad Henne, Dan Orlovsky, Brady Quinn, Drew Stanton and Charlie Whitehurst have, but Vince Young hasn't.

Maybe by the time the season starts, someone will have given VY a contract. Maybe not, though, and if it doesn't, I don't think anyone will be completely shocked but Vince Young. He still sees himself as a starter.

Young talked on Wednesday with Mike Meltser and Brad Davies of KILT in Houston about his current situation. Here's a snippet, via Sports Radio Interviews. Vince, do you still see yourself as a starting quarterback?

"Yeah definitely. Always want to go in and compete for the starting job and the things that I put myself through to get better and better and to better myself as a quarterback, just waiting on that opportunity to get the chance to do that."

Here's the problem for Vince Young. He's perceived — right or wrong — as a guy with mental/emotional issues, and as long as a team feels like they can get similar performance from a player who will make no waves, no one's going to touch Vince Young.

And since he didn't exactly shine in his limited time with the Eagles last season (57.9 completion percentage, four TDs, nine INTs) finding similar production isn't going to be all that difficult. You can get that in the draft. You can get that in Dan Orlovsky. You can almost get that from the guy who handed you your venti decaf Americano this morning.

Vince says he and his agent have talked to a couple of teams, and I'm sure that's true. But if anyone truly wanted him that badly, he'd have a contract.

Not that I necessarily agree with any of this. I'd take Vince Young over at least half the guys listed above, and I feel like a lot of NFL teams will head into the 2012 season with a backup worse than Vince Young. He took a lot of heat for his "Dream Team" comments last year, which is the most ridiculous thing for which anyone's ever taken heat. Like the Eagles failed because their backup quarterback overestimated the ability of a few free agents.

Vince seems resigned to waiting until after the draft to learn his fate. I have a feeling he'll be waiting even longer than he'd like.


-http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/vince-young-no-one-else-sees-backup-sees-183232020.html

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Take it from a Titans fan, VY is very talented. He also has a knack for winning games. He also has, in the past anyway, left a lot to be desired from a preparation standpoint. He was often fooled into interceptions because he doesn't study film like he should. The effort was there on Sunday, but all too often not there during the week. He has a great deep ball. If he could be more prepared for defenses disguising there coverage pre-snap by putting in more preparation effort, he is a much better passer than most people realize. He is a bit of a pouter when things go bad though. That's an awful trait for a QB to have.

[hectis]

Originally Posted by llBARlllCODEll

they say its just new technology tho. not really changes in the design or color schemes. supposed to be stronger and lighter material from nike

maybe i was misinformed



guess we'll have to wait till the seaseon starts to see

this is what the vikings one looks like. not sure how I feel about it. rather keep the same helmets, but if this is what they will look like I rather have purple helmets