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MAYOR QUIMBY · 05-28-2007, 02:12 AM

Has anyone else noticed a couple errors on some WU songs? For example, on the song "Soul Power" from Iron Flag the beat just sounds off-key. The drums in the background skip a beat, as if RZA goofed up. Not that every song has to flow smoothly, but you can tell there was some kind of error done in the cuts of the samples. It's obvious it was not intentional. It happens over and over again.

This same situation happens on the song called "Run For Cover" from the Blackout! album by Red & Mef. After the guitar riff and the drum rolls, the beat starts back up again but it begins late. As if the beat was accidently synchronized wrong. It sounds like a rough draft, as if it wasnt finished properly.

You may all be saying "STFU, thats just how it is..." But for a producer like RZA, he should know better than to be making elementary mistakes like that. They kinda ruin the songs for me. Anyone know any other examples of this?

(***w***)(***u***)

crass · 05-28-2007, 02:18 AM

Yeah, on "Soul Power," the first snare comes in like a step late. Tt does sound pretty shitty actually. And you're right about the Run For Cover beat too.

Bloo · 05-28-2007, 02:37 AM

I always thought that it was intentional.

So, yeah. STFU, that's just how it is...

Longbongcilvaringz · 05-28-2007, 02:45 AM

i just think "Run 4 Cover" is a bad beat.

TGambino · 05-28-2007, 03:48 AM

the one u mentioned on Run 4 Cover is intentional

and Soul Power is just whack

irish ins · 05-28-2007, 04:21 AM

run for cover is a banger

prof zooruka · 05-28-2007, 04:23 AM

I can only reply to this thread by sayin

&th chamber pt 2. ( starts noding to the sounds of do... do... do do ,doooooooooo )

2L8Lit da croatianMC · 05-28-2007, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crass

And you're right about the Run For Cover beat too.

i dont hear any mistake on that track... the drums, bass, guitar sample fits nicely...

The Prime Sithesizah · 05-28-2007, 08:18 AM

on ANY album.. that's RZA for you, he places delays in certain instrument parts... thats what makes it come out sooo ill.. check tha Ice Cream beat.. check tha Man Woman and Child remix beat, those have that sound process in them ..

TDeane23 · 05-28-2007, 09:20 AM

I don't remember where I read or heard this, but in an interview back in the day RZA said he'll purposely put a mistake in his beats. So everytime I hear a beat like that I figure he did it for a reason.

2L8Lit da croatianMC · 05-28-2007, 09:28 AM

^^yeah, that's true...
and on run 4 cover sometimes snare drops to soon, but it all comes to its place on the next pattern... and that track is classic...

Edgar Erebus · 05-28-2007, 09:31 AM

What about that drumbeat without anything on OB4CL, on "Knowledge God"? Was that intentional or a mistake?

BTW I always thought RZA makes mistakes intentionally, like Tarantino on the moovies. Look carefully @ Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill and you'll see he made intentionally shitloads of goofs.

brooklyndodger · 05-28-2007, 10:50 AM

what it's called is "keepn it raw" rza said this from day one about his shit!!! it doesn't have to be prefect. if you one fo those "mountain climber" sound nerds you wouldn't understand the raw consept! that raw natural shit is what hip-hip is in the pure form!! you think rza says these things for fun or to sound cool???

if you want somthing perfect and generic go listen to so called rock,pop,down south stripper music or r&b.

the silencer · 05-28-2007, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slim T

What about that drumbeat without anything on OB4CL, on "Knowledge God"? Was that intentional or a mistake?

BTW I always thought RZA makes mistakes intentionally, like Tarantino on the moovies. Look carefully @ Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill and you'll see he made intentionally shitloads of goofs.

not sayin i think ur wrong but can u point out some???

cuz i love both of those movies

SaqurakiHanamichi · 05-28-2007, 11:36 AM

its not a mistake he does it on purpose...

Listen to obfcl when ur high ur gonna realize it.

05-28-2007, 02:12 AM	#1
MAYOR QUIMBY Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Francisco, USA. Posts: 4,594 Rep Power: 23	RZA Production Errors?? Has anyone else noticed a couple errors on some WU songs? For example, on the song "Soul Power" from Iron Flag the beat just sounds off-key. The drums in the background skip a beat, as if RZA goofed up. Not that every song has to flow smoothly, but you can tell there was some kind of error done in the cuts of the samples. It's obvious it was not intentional. It happens over and over again. This same situation happens on the song called "Run For Cover" from the Blackout! album by Red & Mef. After the guitar riff and the drum rolls, the beat starts back up again but it begins late. As if the beat was accidently synchronized wrong. It sounds like a rough draft, as if it wasnt finished properly. You may all be saying "STFU, thats just how it is..." But for a producer like RZA, he should know better than to be making elementary mistakes like that. They kinda ruin the songs for me. Anyone know any other examples of this? (*w)(u*)

05-28-2007, 02:18 AM	#2
crass Wise to da game Join Date: Dec 2004 Age: 26 Posts: 7,637 Rep Power: 22	Yeah, on "Soul Power," the first snare comes in like a step late. Tt does sound pretty shitty actually. And you're right about the Run For Cover beat too. __________________ Last edited by crass; 05-28-2007 at 02:20 AM.

05-28-2007, 02:37 AM	#3
Bloo Da Main Gatdamit!!! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Slums of the Souf Age: 31 Posts: 3,398 Rep Power: 17	I always thought that it was intentional. So, yeah. STFU, that's just how it is... __________________ Still Ain't Nuttin Ta Fuk Wit

05-28-2007, 02:45 AM	#4
Longbongcilvaringz . Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 23,134 Rep Power: 94	i just think "Run 4 Cover" is a bad beat. __________________

05-28-2007, 04:23 AM	#7
prof zooruka . Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,803 Rep Power: 16	I can only reply to this thread by sayin &th chamber pt 2. ( starts noding to the sounds of do... do... do do ,doooooooooo ) Last edited by prof zooruka; 05-28-2007 at 04:33 AM.

05-28-2007, 03:48 AM	#5
TGambino Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ft myers Posts: 3,425 Rep Power: 15	the one u mentioned on Run 4 Cover is intentional and Soul Power is just whack

05-28-2007, 04:21 AM	#6
irish ins SHAOLIN STUDENT Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 369 Rep Power: 0	run for cover is a banger

05-28-2007, 08:18 AM	#9
The Prime Sithesizah Pioneer Of Cerebral Music Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,199 Rep Power: 15	on ANY album.. that's RZA for you, he places delays in certain instrument parts... thats what makes it come out sooo ill.. check tha Ice Cream beat.. check tha Man Woman and Child remix beat, those have that sound process in them .. __________________ The Prime Sithesizah [Facebook/Myspace]

05-28-2007, 09:20 AM	#10
TDeane23 Since day 1 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Allentown, PA Age: 32 Posts: 157 Rep Power: 0	I don't remember where I read or heard this, but in an interview back in the day RZA said he'll purposely put a mistake in his beats. So everytime I hear a beat like that I figure he did it for a reason. __________________

05-28-2007, 09:28 AM	#11
2L8Lit da croatianMC ADEPT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: croatia, zagreb Age: 25 Posts: 2,736 Rep Power: 0	^^yeah, that's true... and on run 4 cover sometimes snare drops to soon, but it all comes to its place on the next pattern... and that track is classic... __________________ I C.R.E.A.M

05-28-2007, 09:31 AM	#12
Edgar Erebus Munching eyes since 1989 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On your roof Age: 23 Posts: 9,348 Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 32	What about that drumbeat without anything on OB4CL, on "Knowledge God"? Was that intentional or a mistake? BTW I always thought RZA makes mistakes intentionally, like Tarantino on the moovies. Look carefully @ Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill and you'll see he made intentionally shitloads of goofs. __________________ "The Devil is not the Prince of Matter; the Devil is the arrogance of the spirit, faith without smile, truth that is never seized by doubt. The Devil is grim because he knows where he is going, and, in moving, he always returns whence he came."

05-28-2007, 10:50 AM	#13
brooklyndodger Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 377 Rep Power: 11	what it's called is "keepn it raw" rza said this from day one about his shit!!! it doesn't have to be prefect. if you one fo those "mountain climber" sound nerds you wouldn't understand the raw consept! that raw natural shit is what hip-hip is in the pure form!! you think rza says these things for fun or to sound cool??? if you want somthing perfect and generic go listen to so called rock,pop,down south stripper music or r&b.

05-28-2007, 11:36 AM	#15
SaqurakiHanamichi CLANSMAN Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,907 Rep Power: 0	its not a mistake he does it on purpose... Listen to obfcl when ur high ur gonna realize it. __________________

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