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Old 09-19-2013, 03:27 PM   #3871
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^^Dope! Some of the nicest bars I've heard from Pro!
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Old 09-19-2013, 08:48 PM   #3872
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Old 09-20-2013, 11:18 AM   #3873
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Yeah I think that makes sense ^^



It's ood to see someone's mind get sparked by his lines, it's not nonsense
Sometimes I think maybe "he" just wanted to do something different
Compared to both Holocaust & Warcloud and didn't think it would be just
To continue using that name and evidently a different style emerges
This Alcatraz theory would be perfect as in...it's like a free or dummy run
Like he dosen't have to/want to take credit for?
Simply experimenting under a different title but on a deeper level this time.

In the sense that if GZA or Canibus for example were to spit a different type verse
They would still be "them" and most likely would get a negative response
As it is so far away from the norm of what the listener is used to.
But it's all under the same name/same person

Where this way it has a label or even better a new artist so to speak
Detaching from the other well respect art of the predecessors.
I'm just thinking Alcatraz is vast, so you could look at it like inmates coming speaking.

Architect : Before His Time
Holocaust : Self Explanatory
Warcloud : Down The Rabbit Hole
Alcatraz : ???????
The Holocaust : Blue Sky Black Death
The Robot Tank : Did You Know....

Makes you think huh ?
It definitely makes sense. It's like he has so much to convey to the listener, so he breaks himself off into multiple characters as a way to connect more pieces of the puzzle/'god'/foundation that is Alcatraz; but each is detached as you said, and assigned to a certain task within the collective goal of completing the puzzle. "Something made of pieces, fit it together."

And occasionally the separate characters are linked to each other, creating a whole new passageway. Like this reference to Architect in Alert the Local Watch.

"Creep across states, white with ageless hands
A being, of age old grace slid into place."
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Old 09-20-2013, 11:35 AM   #3874
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The Architect persona has really interested me lately. Thus far I've found this persona in 5 tracks.

Old Toy Room
Dark City (One Standard Lesson)
Woodchuck
Kill or Be Killed
Midnight in the Garden of Good.
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Old 09-20-2013, 12:49 PM   #3875
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It definitely makes sense = "Something made of pieces, fit it together."

And occasionally the separate characters are linked to each other, creating a whole new passageway. Like this reference to Architect in Alert the Local Watch.

"Creep across states, white with ageless hands
A being, of age old grace slid into place."
Good spot again.
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Old 09-20-2013, 12:53 PM   #3876
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The Architect persona has really interested me lately. Thus far I've found this persona in 5 tracks.

Old Toy Room
Dark City (One Standard Lesson)
Woodchuck
Kill or Be Killed
Midnight in the Garden of Good.
I used to have everything in it's right place
But my laptop died a while back.

Off the top I think you could add these :











As we discussed :
This would be if you were to merge "The Architect/Skeleton Lowe" styles as one.
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Old 09-20-2013, 03:55 PM   #3877
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I used to have everything in it's right place
But my laptop died a while back.

Off the top I think you could add these :











As we discussed :
This would be if you were to merge "The Architect/Skeleton Lowe" styles as one.

Thanks! Blue Apples slipped my mind haha. I hadn't thought about it, but I can see how The Architect/Skeleton Lowe styles merge.
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Old 09-21-2013, 01:06 PM   #3878
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Thanks! Blue Apples slipped my mind haha. I hadn't thought about it, but I can see how The Architect/Skeleton Lowe styles merge.
You're welcome, it's easily done :

I forgot this one too :

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Old 09-22-2013, 04:48 PM   #3879
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You're welcome, it's easily done :

I forgot this one too :


Ah, yes! Skeleton Lowe emerges. Yeah, I'm getting the hang of it, haha.
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Old 09-30-2013, 11:17 AM   #3880
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Ah, yes! Skeleton Lowe emerges. Yeah, I'm getting the hang of it, haha.
"Skeleton Lode"

lode is an old western term from gold mining days for when guys would it a big vein or layer of gold.


a skeleton lode brings to mind a situation where you may come across a lot of dead people either from conflict or some other mystery



as a reference see this pulp western of the same name



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^My bad too.

Hard to catch him say, only on "A Purple Rose From Cairo"

Always thought it was some kind of pirate persona.

Thanks for the info.
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Old 09-30-2013, 01:50 PM   #3882
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"Skeleton Lode"

lode is an old western term from gold mining days for when guys would it a big vein or layer of gold.


a skeleton lode brings to mind a situation where you may come across a lot of dead people either from conflict or some other mystery



as a reference see this pulp western of the same name





Ah ha! That makes perfect sense. I also misheard in the intro for "A Purple Rose from Cyro." Thanks for the info! It puts things further into perspective.
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Old 09-30-2013, 03:22 PM   #3883
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Ah ha! That makes perfect sense. I also misheard in the intro for "A Purple Rose from Cyro." Thanks for the info! It puts things further into perspective.
not to be too big a dick but whoever wrote that song title got it wrong too should be "Cairo" like the capital of Egypt.


The Purple Rose of Cairo is a direct reference to the 1985 Woody Allen film





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Purple_Rose_of_Cairo

check the story synopsis
In 1930s New Jersey, a movie character walks off the screen and into the real world.
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Old 09-30-2013, 09:13 PM   #3884
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not to be too big a dick but whoever wrote that song title got it wrong too should be "Cairo" like the capital of Egypt.


The Purple Rose of Cairo is a direct reference to the 1985 Woody Allen film





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Purple_Rose_of_Cairo

check the story synopsis
In 1930s New Jersey, a movie character walks off the screen and into the real world.
Nah, man. You're droppin gems. I didn't know of any of this stuff you've been posting. It makes things even more interesting.
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Old 10-01-2013, 03:00 PM   #3885
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I love it that Warcloud has an entire archive of pop culture references in his brain. I really wish after he died his memories could be stored on a hard drive. I would love to dig around inside of his brain and see what fascinating things he has hoarded up in there.
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