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Old 12-19-2007, 04:41 PM   #1
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Default Who/what do you believe?

We have individuals in this world that have given us each a basis from which we operate on. They give us a belief system by which all our views of this world are based/biased on.

What person/persons would you say have the biggest influence on what you base your belief of reality. Some might have theorists, some might be a religious figure.

Examples:

William Cooper
Master Fard Muhammed
Elijah Muhammed
David Icke
Marcus Garvey
Alex Jones
Louis Farrakhan
Zecharia Sitchin
Malcolm X
Maybe it's a Swami - just giving examples.

I'm trying to figure out the direction of people in KTL so we can come to understandings and describe why we believe in what we believe? I personally think that if al ot of these heads came together to debate they could have some unified theory that would bridge it all together. I'd like to see that happen in here.

Me personally I take a piece of each that holds value to me. But I prefer Sitchin's theorie's. He's slept on by the people for his sound research and travels and his deciphering's of history. One thing about Sitchin though is his lack of mentioning that Anunnaki are reptilian, except for one instance where he mentions that Marduk's mother was a reptilian Draconian - Damkina.

So build on what you believe and base your search on.
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Old 12-19-2007, 07:34 PM   #2
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in terms of spirituality i rely on myself, i think thats the only person you can rely on when it comes to finding your origin, purpose and creator, but in terms of my ideology/philosophy on life i have a lot of great people who i hold in high stature for their contribution to my personality, outlook and thought process...


Malcom X
Bruce Lee
Tupac Shakur
Bob Marley
Sun Tzu
Louis farrakhan
Prophet Muhammed
Plato
Aristotle
William Shakespeare
Avicenna (ibn sina)
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Karl Marx
Laozi
Confucious
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Myself
Friedrich Nietzsche
Charles Baudelaire
Albert Camus
Jean-Paul Sartre
Thomas Jefferson
Charles Darwin
Fyodor Dostoevsky
Ralph Ellison
Eugene Ionesco
Samuel Beckett
Edgar Allan Poe
Oscar Wilde

No one with "Reverend" or "Prophet" in front of his/her name.
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Old 12-20-2007, 10:56 AM   #4
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Nelson Mandela
Friedrich Nietzsche

I don`t agree 100% with any of the ones mentioned above, but I do mostly agree with them
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Myself
My religion

there haven't been any philosophical theories i could find that suited me better with happiness than these influences have.
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in terms of spirituality i rely on myself, i think thats the only person you can rely on when it comes to finding your origin, purpose and creator, but in terms of my ideology/philosophy on life i have a lot of great people who i hold in high stature for their contribution to my personality, outlook and thought process...


Malcom X
Bruce Lee
Tupac Shakur
Bob Marley
Sun Tzu
Louis farrakhan
Prophet Muhammed
Plato
Aristotle
William Shakespeare
Avicenna (ibn sina)
averroes (ibn rushd)
Karl Marx
Laozi
Confucious
a lot of the above named are influences on me, throughout my life time.
especially confucius and plato.
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my list, mainly ppl who portrayed acts of honour, and acheived hero status among their own ppl's.

bruce lee - i admire his dedication to his chosen profession. he approached martial arts with a lot of discipline, and always tried to increase his knowledge. i try to apply the same dedicaton to my studies.

sultan alp arslan - a honourable and courageous man, he showed a lot of respect to everyone. he never underestimated his opponents, and because of this it was very difficult to defeat him in battle. i try to live a life where i respect all those around me, and be honourable.

mehmed the conqueror - military genius, he strived to develop all aspects of his empire. he thought ahead of himself. this planning ahead meant that he was always one step ahead of his rivals.

ataturk - a revolutionary to the turkish ppl, he was a really smart man. showed a great amount of love towards his ppl, although i personally disagree with the path he chose to lead turkey to, the circumstances in which he did it in were incredible. he saved us from being jus another colony to the west. he didnt give up in such a tough situation, he had a goal and to acheive it he did everything he could.

ghenghis khan - first im named after him. he was a brutal murderer, but i do admire the fact that he united his warring ppl, and he did everything he could for his ppl and he did it well. he did a lot to help his own ppl. to the world he is a barbarian, but to the tribal nomad ppl's he is a hero, and to some a god-like figure.

subedei the warrior - the man was probably the best military general ever. the way he outsmarted his enemies in battle was incredible. he was a great observer of his surroundings, he understood wat was going on in the battle. with this understanding he implented highly effective tactics to solve the problem. thats how i see his military success.
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Thats good to know peeps.

So what can we learn from each other from all these different people we choose as guides in our quests for knowledge and wisdom?

Explain something that explains why you chose so and so.
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Very good list of influences...Ibn Sina was truly an unbelievable man. IT is amazing how accomplished he was in so many different fields.
These are the people I, in my own way, try to emulate...the scholars and theologians. Quest for knowledge is something that a person should never stop pursuing, and I believe it is a great gift to have such an ambition.

What I believe? I couldnt pin point it to one thing, because there is so much I don't know yet, so its hard to answer.
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Very good list of influences...Ibn Sina was truly an unbelievable man. IT is amazing how accomplished he was in so many different fields.
These are the people I, in my own way, try to emulate...the scholars and theologians. Quest for knowledge is something that a person should never stop pursuing, and I believe it is a great gift to have such an ambition.

What I believe? I couldnt pin point it to one thing, because there is so much I don't know yet, so its hard to answer.

Yeah man, Ibn Sina was a real example of a "master", a theologian, mathmatician, astronomer, philosopher, the list goes on............

but what really bugs me, is this man gave such a undeniable contribution to the world while europe was in the dark ages, but he is NEVER discussed in uk schools, and proberly all schools in the west!!!....so sad
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It aint a theory bro, them muthafuckas are real and alive, but i dont call them "illuminati", i think its a bullshit word created by them, to give the view that it is nothing more then a eccentric conspiricy, new world order i can deal with, because thats what it is.......
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Actually, the group that term "illuminati" refers to is historical fact. The bone of contention is their nature and supposed extermination.

Anyways, I believe in a god above all human concepts of god. And Grant Morrison.
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