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Old 11-15-2006, 10:23 PM   #1
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I cant call him Allah...against my ethics but you know who I mean.

Does anybody have any info on his companions... the 1st 9 Born, Azrael, etc.? I hear a lot on 13x but its hard to get info on them.

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Old 11-16-2006, 01:55 PM   #2
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I cant call him Allah...against my ethics but you know who I mean.

Does anybody have any info on his companions... the 1st 9 Born, Azrael, etc.? I hear a lot on 13x but its hard to get info on them.

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Ethics huh? You're ethics will keep you away from what you want to know, and I do know what you mean, you mean to disrespect.
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Old 11-16-2006, 04:46 PM   #3
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Ethics huh? You're ethics will keep you away from what you want to know, and I do know what you mean, you mean to disrespect.
thats a pretty harsh accusation
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Old 11-16-2006, 06:05 PM   #4
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thats a pretty harsh accusation
Harsh? Maybe it was, but still relevent. Anytime a person calls another person out of their name, it's disrespect. A good name is better than gold. If a person is truly seeking the "knowledge" then there's a way to approach that knowledge and that's first with respect. When I go to the mosque, I don't walk around with my shoes on, I take them off out of respect. When I'm in the church, and the people stand and pray, I stand with them out of respect. When I break bread with any family and they bless their food, I'm right there with them out of respect.
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Old 11-16-2006, 08:59 PM   #5
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Ethics huh? You're ethics will keep you away from what you want to know, and I do know what you mean, you mean to disrespect.
How is it that you get the impression that he means to disrespect? I wouldn't call him Allah or god either. So am I disrespecting now?

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How is it that you get the impression that he means to disrespect? I wouldn't call him Allah or god either. So am I disrespecting now?

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Yes, because calling a person out of their name is disrespect.
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Old 11-16-2006, 10:36 PM   #7
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You acting like a bitch, punk. You talking about respect and you're asking a muslim to call someone "Allah?" You have no respect for anyone's culture outside you're little academy.
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Old 11-16-2006, 10:47 PM   #8
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Hehe logged off. You aint got no heart bitch. Gone to go teach civilization? Nothing shows respect like a white man calling himself black man.
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:33 AM   #9
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You acting like a bitch, punk. You talking about respect and you're asking a muslim to call someone "Allah?" You have no respect for anyone's culture outside you're little academy.
The truth always comes out. I know many of muslims who call the founder of the nge Allah. It's called respect. And that academy you speak of is not mine.

I have a great respect for all cultures and religions including the nge. I respect the muslims, that's why I know how to conduct myself. I know to wash before jumma(the proper way). I know how to make salat. I fast during ramadan. I know the quran isn't meant to be read, but to be recited, so out of respect for Allah, my muslim brothers, and my understanding of islam, I strive to be able to recite instead of read. Please, don't say I'm disrespectful to to other's cultures/religion especially to Islam.

You may not agree with the nge, and you don't have to, but Allah teaches us to respect all people. That's the way to peace. That's the way of Islam. I have respect for those men and women, as I have respect for the other people of the book. I don't have to agree with them but it is the will of Allah to respect them.

I will tell the truth about what has been revealed to me by Allah, and that is the truth.
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:37 AM   #10
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Hehe logged off. You aint got no heart bitch. Gone to go teach civilization? Nothing shows respect like a white man calling himself black man.
You're a muslim acting like this. A Muslim conducts himself with the highest degree of respect, refinement, intellect, awareness, understanding, and with the blessings of Allah. Allah teaches of many things, including that of having a right name and the power behind a name, and blesses those with a pure heart, and reveals to whom he choses. I know what Allah blessed me with, and your antictics have no bearing on me. Conduct yourself as a righteous muslim and not just one in name.
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:45 AM   #11
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don't worry bout that shit blackman....the man was asking a "loaded" question.....

"I cant call him Allah...against my ethics but you know who I mean."

thats some passive aggressive shit right there and then he wants to ask about Allah's first born?????

as Dr. Cress Welsing says "if you don't understand white supremacy then you will only be confused"

they are fucking with you black man simply cuz the lessons talk about white man being the devil which as Dr. WElsing tells us what drives every behavioral patern of the devil

in closing....a true Muslim would call Allah a black man...the God of the Quran and Bible is a black man and it was greek platonic influences that corrupted it......
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Old 11-17-2006, 12:35 PM   #12
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Nah man, fuck that. First of all, how do I look referring to another man as God? I've got respect for everyone at least to call them by their proper name, but calling someone else God is like taking a knee. You get all due respect, but Allah is just not due. You gotta earn that shit.
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Old 11-17-2006, 12:50 PM   #13
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Nah man, fuck that. First of all, how do I look referring to another man as God? I've got respect for everyone at least to call them by their proper name, but calling someone else God is like taking a knee. You get all due respect, but Allah is just not due. You gotta earn that shit.
Allah didn't teach to worship him, nor did he teach people to take a knee. He taught boys to be men and stand, and girls to be women.

What is it that a person has to do to earn "you" calling him (Allah) by his name? Stopping riots, getting people off of drugs, stopping women from being prostitutes, giving people hope, aspiring people to do better, being a strong advocate of education, fighting for your country, being a productive person, giving your life to save somebody else, bringing unity to people, teaching people to respect one another, what?
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Old 11-17-2006, 01:10 PM   #14
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Allah didn't teach to worship him, nor did he teach people to take a knee. He taught boys to be men and stand, and girls to be women.
He didn't take that name at random. Its the name of god to many people and carries connotations beyond his agenda.

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What is it that a person has to do to earn "you" calling him (Allah) by his name? Stopping riots, getting people off of drugs, stopping women from being prostitutes, giving people hope, aspiring people to do better, being a strong advocate of education, fighting for your country, being a productive person, giving your life to save somebody else, bringing unity to people, teaching people to respect one another, what?
Impressive, no doubt, but just take a second to compare that to the first one to hold that name.
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Old 11-17-2006, 01:17 PM   #15
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He didn't take that name at random. Its the name of god to many people and carries connotations beyond his agenda.



Impressive, no doubt, but just take a second to compare that to the first one to hold that name.
Who was the first to hold that name, what did he do that this "one" didn't do?

Alot of things hold connotations and? Allah is not owned by the muslims or any other religion. The word in its own self predates all semetic languages and arabic is a semetic language so the arabs or muslims are not the owners, nor the creators of that word, the idea behind it, and what it originally means. Not the connotation.

And again, what does it take for a person to earn it?
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