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Old 08-19-2005, 02:08 PM   #61
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^aw i never even knew he was 15, i never woulda replied...he's just ignorant...that's all

don't call raekwon a dumb cunt...that's not very civilized...

lord reveal is tellin the truth youngen...you're a 15 year old kid...
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:24 PM   #62
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Yo, Wu-Tang Fan, read this whole thread from the beginning. Read everything I and others posted then ask yaself if u understand at least a little of what was said on this thread. I dont think u read from the begining. Then, if u dont understand, maybe it was meant for u not to understand.

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Old 08-19-2005, 02:31 PM   #63
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BTW, why is your name Wu-Tang Fan? just curious.
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:41 PM   #64
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Oh shit, I just realized I've been spending alot of time on this thread. Its consuming all my time, gotta lot of shit to take care of. Expectin a seed on the way in 6 months. It's been good. I love building my thoughts with ya. This is the best thread I've been on since I signed up, it's an alternative to the regular "what Wu-Tang needs to do" or "36 Chambers Vs. Forever" or "This album gonna be shit" threads. Take care, ya'll.

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Ya could hit me up at AIG10382@msn.com or at www.Myspace.com/lordreveal.
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:55 PM   #66
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INSPECTAH DECK

"Chameleons play the wrong side of the fence"
"Switching like clark kent when the drama commence"

Who are these chameleons?
Oh yeah,well let me drop some knowledge what Inskectah Dirk has to say:what he means is he changes into a savage gun-wielding fiend when they bring out the bulls(incredibaly rare beef).And for those of you who were 3 years old when it came out the reason he mentioned Clark-Kent is that when the Wu were really banging there was a T.V. series of superman on the television,and clark's hidden identity was a average reporter called Clark-Kent who used to go in the toilet or something and change into his superman constume when someone was in danger.And get this,the superman series ended after forever came out signaling the end of the "super" era of Wu-Tang!So I can tell you this song was made in an era from 93-(when the Superman series started)-97(when the superman series ended).
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:57 PM   #67
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Oh shit, I just realized I've been spending alot of time on this thread. Its consuming all my time, gotta lot of shit to take care of. Expectin a seed on the way in 6 months. It's been good. I love building my thoughts with ya. This is the best thread I've been on since I signed up, it's an alternative to the regular "what Wu-Tang needs to do" or "36 Chambers Vs. Forever" or "This album gonna be shit" threads. Take care, ya'll.

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Congratulations on ya seed.
God bless him or her.


PS Which album's better "36 chambers or wu-tang Forever"
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Old 08-19-2005, 03:01 PM   #68
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Yuss yuss congrats on the coming seed LordReveal.

Really enjoyed reading all the knowledge y'all been droppin , keep it comin.

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Oh yeah,well let me drop some knowledge what Inskectah Dirk has to say:what he means is he changes into a savage gun-wielding fiend when they bring out the bulls(incredibaly rare beef).And for those of you who were 3 years old when it came out the reason he mentioned Clark-Kent is that when the Wu were really banging there was a T.V. series of superman on the television,and clark's hidden identity was a average reporter called Clark-Kent who used to go in the toilet or something and change into his superman constume when someone was in danger.And get thishe superman series ended after forever came out signaling the end of the "super" era of Wu-Tang!So I can tell you this song was made in an era from 93-(when the Superman series started)-97(when the superman series ended).
you smoke crack, don't you?



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Old 08-19-2005, 03:16 PM   #70
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damn who put that telephone smilie in my post.......raaaaaaaaaawwwwww
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Old 08-21-2005, 10:54 PM   #71
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Why would some people strait outta the ghetto have secret messages hidden in their songs anyway?And Raekwon is just a stupid cunt who says U-God is a corny-arse and R.Z.A. the same.But my main point is why would regular hood homies have hidden messages in their songs about wisdom!?
it may be a bit late to reply to this post but i cant leave it without an answer.

in my opinion it doesnt matter is RZA has put these "hidden messages" into his songs on purpose or not. let me show you what i mean woth an example.

in "2 cups of blood" RZA says "arm ot the leg, leg, arm to the head". as someone metiond before if you read the thickked letters the word "Allah" comes out. 2 arms, 2 legs and a head means "man" of course. for me thos line means that avarage people are the god. we have the power to create chaos or peace just like a "real" god. also if people are god earth must be heaven and hell too. how? well if you and other people are a good and respect each other you will get to heaven. not to the heaven eith angels and st. peter at the gates but tothe heaven here on the earth. is people lied in peace the world we live in would be an almost perfect place, the "heaven". of course if you hate others and they hate each other as well the world will be hell. people will suffer from wars and crime.
what i mean is RZA may dont give a damn about this stuff but it doesnt matter. it doesnt matter because what matters is the people hear these lines by the Wu members and start thinking about the world, each other and the future. RZA dont have to actually say this shit in his songs.
is for example 50 cent had any lyrics that can make anyone think about these thing id say hes a great rapper, a great musucian but since only bullshit comes out of his mouth i cant appreciate him music.

well i hope its understandeble. sorry for my bad english but as you can see in my info im not american nor english and its 6 AM here in Hungary and im too tired to read this post again to find the mistakes.
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Old 08-22-2005, 01:17 AM   #72
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The Chase - RZA


Burst better run better run for your life!
Burst break run jet flee boogey move be audi (yo)
Slide duck dip bounce be ghost escape blazini poof
The Genie disappear cast out like they ain't seen me (yo) ...
(Yo) Burst!
Put the gear in the ignition first it spark my transmission
I'm gear shiftin fast lane switchin tryin to ditch em
Escape I got the briefcase full of papers

Plus the microtape of all the secret society snakes
Recordings, plan how they want to destroy the black man
and take every square inch of land and kill the Wu Clan


What the fuck? My four hundred horsepower truck
High speed with the Ironman CD turned all the way up
Shots fired in back of me, they practically hit my tire
Though I smell smoke, I hope my engine ain't on fire
Pulled off the road, hope this damn truck won't explode
Felt like The Saint from the last James Bond episode
Drivin sixty miles per hour through weed trees and dead flowers
Bust the overdrive, couldn't control the power
Pushin through bushes, mud, bugs
Covered the front and back windshield like carwash suds
I couldn't sleep, I knew these niggaz was gainin on me
I tried to bust a 360, I crashed into a tree
It felt like a bulldozer, knocked my ass over
I fell out the Rover, grabbed the briefcase ran over
to a log cabin, had a sign posted DO NOT ENTER
I bust through the door my body got cut up with splinters
I ain't give a FUCK, tryin to find somewhere to duck
Ahh, ahh, uhhhhh, ahh
and catch my breath, count how many shots I had left
My clip was full, the first nigga walk through I'm gonna pull
It was Ivan Korlof, he came through with a sawed off
Bust the cannon shot and tore the rest of the fuckin door off
Burst, break, run, jet, flee, boogey, move, be audi
Slide, duck, dip, bounce, be ghost, escape, blazini, poof
The Genie, disappear, cast out like they ain't seen me
Killer Bee, fast lamborghini
(repeat 2X)
Junk turned fragments scattered in all direction
One grazed me, on my kneecap but didn't faze me
?Count Latree? jumped up, I fired back
My four-four snub slug, dug a hole in his head
like Dig Dug, partner crashes in
with the infrared precision shots, just missin
Night vision goggles, shit had me boggled
Forty-Four mag, was too much to swallow
Held the briefcase in front of my face, jumped through the window
Daring, got up and went like Dr. Kimball
I burst, broke, ran, jetted, fleed, boogied, moved, was audi
Slid, ducked, dipped, bounced, ghost, escaped, blazini, poof
The Genie, disappear, niggaz out like they ain't seen me
Killer Bee move with the speed of lamborghini
Bobby Steels on the track, word up
Bout to escape with the tape
Word up



more and more of this hidden story is coming to me... it is my belief that the five rings of the olympics representing the same thing you were talking about. the two two and the ONE.

have a look at the 2006 torino olympics sign. you are either a coincidence or conspiricy theororist, and either way, you wont know, so i say it's better to try to understand whats going on than constantly pass it off as nothing:



every story of man refers to the ONE, who we call the messiah, and the most popular tell it best. it is our story. it is deep within, almost as if within our genetics. star wars, matrix, lord of the rings, harry potter, and so many more from the old days, where do we stop and realize this is not just a story? where we recognize this must have happened long ago and DEEPLY affected us forever? these stories are popular because they connect best with the telling of this story. the story being told parallels that of the christ figure every time.

so anyways, back to the symbol the star like things up there form circles... there are 7 chakras that ascend to heaven symbolized by the seven stars to heaven. there are five across twice, perhaps representing the five on each side? the five fingers, five toes on each side? its strange that we all grow like this, symmetrical, thats a lot of what the divinci drawing shows...



look at the perfect 360 degree circle, same shit RZA talks about in his book.

but do you see the square as well? we are beyond perfect. we are infinitely balanced, and its a bit scary. see the five notches down below on that line? five more? look back at that olympics symbol... the geometry involved in our own anatomy is beyond genetic evolution, it is mathmatically perfect (though individually we are not without distortions), and this is why so many people believe in creationism (though most haven't done their research on why). this goes farther too. one day they will find out knowledge we used to know long ago. science and religion pursue the same thing, an objective explination of reality based upon the impressions of the five senses. we have divided those instutions and used them to incite insanity and artificiality upon our people. they study exactly the same thing. these are the same conclusions reached by philosophers in ancient greece, china, and all over the world back in around 600 bc. there is natural order. and to quote albert einstien

"i do not believe god plays dice"

recognizing that there is no random, you accept there is meaning in all moments, accepting random, you see no meaning in any moment. its one or the other, and you know it. what i suggest is that time moves in cycles (as suggested by history), and consciousness is connected (as suggested by the stock market). there is god whether you believe in the concept or not. god is not a seperated secular thing, god is you, god is me, and god is everything. the infinity beyond explination. by living you accept death. death is natural and is nothing to be afraid of. we know there is more after death, but we don't have to leave hell here, and heaven after as our religions tell us. thats what belfalo was saying. so if we accept time moves in cycles, than we must believe in re-incarnation, though there seems to be quite a bit of forgetting going on during the re-birth of a soul. it is hard to accept, and perhaps a little too radical for all of you, but we are only tooling with logic, which if anything, is what god would use to design the universe. we see the cycles of the sun around the earth, which is what the christ story is based on. the zodiac has 12 signs, and the bible has 12 apostles (which if you remember the last supper)



was painted with four groups of three. the twelve apostles referring to the months. those four groups suggests the four seasons. the zodiac is divided in this way:







another though is that if you accept christ as the thirteenth man in the picture, this would relate to the 13 lunar cycles a year. anyways, if you look at the circle in the middle of the zodiac you will understand why christ is painted in the middle, as the sun, in the same sense as the zodiac. the middle represents the sun.




and here is our holy cross. i'm going to steal a bit from a friend:

The Sun, since the first day of summer, has each day been moving southward, and stops when it reaches its lowest point in the Northern Hemispheric sky (December 22nd - our winter solstice).

At this lowest point, the Sun stops its journey southward.
For three days, December 22nd, 23rd , and 24th, the Sun rises on the exact same latitudinal (declination) degree.

This is the only time in the year that the Sun actually stops its movement Northward or Southward in our sky. On the morning of December 25th the Sun moves one degree northward beginning its annual journey back to us in the Northern Hemisphere, ultimately bringing our spring. Anything steadily moving all year long that suddenly stops moving for three days was considered to have died. Therefore, God's Sun who was dead for three days, moves one-degree Northward on December 25th beginning its annual journey back to the Northern Hemisphere. The Sun is symbolically
....BORN AGAIN.

And to this day, His worshippers still celebrate His BIRTHDAY!.... Merry Christmas.



so here's what i believe:

you can't sit back and just say there's nothing more to the universe. you can't sit around and pretend like you understand everything, and then pretend like we can't ever know actually know any of it. ever hear of the book 1984 by george orwell? they call that doublethink, two thoughts that cancel eachother out and remove the concept from conciousness, and yet so many people believe it. quite sad. we dismiss our own desire for knowledge and create your surroudings to support this dissillusionment. as if there's nothing more going on you can't see, as if there is no deep conflict with the good and evil of man... and upwards. there's so much we don't understand, to simply assume that in our existance we are just some unfathomable random plop of crap in some shithole planet in a place as finite as a computer program. its not, and you can tell, because you experience love, life, hate, passion, and all feelings. your feelings are your only true connection to god, your perception is not so much as seeing as accepting light into corneas and processing it symbolicly into chairs, desks, flowers, and so on. this is why a computer will never truely understand reality, it is finite and everythingness is forever beyond it. conciousness can not exist without that divine connection. as we continue to move into a more systematically designed artifical society, we feel worse and worse and force our own deaths upon ourselves. i think we can reverse this shit. its coming soon, you'll see. meanwhile we accept corruption by a class system that allows children to be born into inequality, as if a fresh life deserves any less than any other. perhaps you work for what you get, but you NEVER deny a new soul the sameness as another. they have done nothing to deserve any less than another. if we look at the children born into all these rich families (cough cough george w bush) that play gi joe with our sons and daughters overseas, that collect billions for themselves... they are born into corruption, and take upon the corruption. they have been programmed to accept that no no man is as worthy as they, when in fact no man is more worthy than any other. one day we will recognize the concept of foreign is only a tool used by those who divid and conquer. and thats all i've got for you today.

im not asking you to believe anything, just to question what you "know", that has been told to you for another. the journey for knowledge lies within only yourself.
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i fucked up a lot of my spelling and grammar. oh well you all will understand it anyways.
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damn, son.... mad deep, mad deep
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