Taoism...Anyone?

[Fatal Guillotine]

Originally Posted by pro.Graveface

mad Thanx Journalz,


Dope Thread Allahz Thanxz

youre welcome

[Prince Rai]

Tao-ism.

Well Tao can be translated to being the "Way".

It can be confusing for people to grasp at first, but it does fall into place if you reflect.

The "Way" is a righteous system, whereby things fall into place. It is a "good" and a "bad" at the same time in order to generate the peaceful energy within or without.

Look at the Yin-Yang circle, it intertwines two opposites to create a circle of life, 360.

Both opposites keep each other alive and the method is the "Way"

For example the world of "health" would not exist without the world of "ills" as we must measure something to the other.

But as I recollect, Tao extends much further than just the Ying-Yang info above.

Respecting your elders is a good balanced "Way". Helping the needy is a balanced "Way".


Truthfully, the Tao of things is not all that easy to explain as I think more about it, because it fortunately is very expansive. But for everything, if ypu ponder and think about life processes, the D.N.A. of how things just happen is TAO. (imo)

[Ghost In The 'Lac]

Youve all failed Taoism lesson 1, by trying to say "what it is".

If you had even read the first line of the Tao Te Ching, The Tao that can be described is not the eternal Tao.

So stop asking "what it is", and go and read. The Tao places no value in words, and in fact, the Tao Te Ching is mostly concerned with the futility of language.

Language is the Taos greatest enemy.

[Face of the Golden Falcon]

Originally Posted by Ghost In The 'Lac

Youve all failed Taoism lesson 1, by trying to say "what it is".

If you had even read the first line of the Tao Te Ching, The Tao that can be described is not the eternal Tao.

So stop asking "what it is", and go and read. The Tao places no value in words, and in fact, the Tao Te Ching is mostly concerned with the futility of language.

Language is the Taos greatest enemy.

...better put yourself on that "failed" list. Wouldn't better advice be "go and live"?

HETEPU

[Mumm Ra]

lol yeah that's what i was thinking


realistically speaking -
words are rarely if ever the true form of anything
though they help us understand what they point to

[Fatal Guillotine]

taobums.com is an ill site to build and q&a with taoist

[Urban_Journalz]

Originally Posted by pro.Graveface

mad Thanx Journalz,


Dope Thread Allahz Thanxz

Not a problem doc. Use that second book wisely homie, because it's a gem.

[Fatal Guillotine]

the i ching and the tao te ching go hand in hand imo

by the way try to get more than one translation however much sure it has commentary

[Urban_Journalz]

Originally Posted by Allahs_Disciple

Where does the Yin Yang Symbol come from?

http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/yinyang.htm

This is only a brief description, but I'll do the best I can. The Yin/Yang Symbol is a representation of what comes after the pure divine power that is creation itself. In Taoist Yoga, The Yin/Yang state is the stage before that of absolute oneness as far as the microcosm is concerned. The state most of us are in now, is represented by the 8 Trigrams of The I-Ching, seen most recently for most of us on the cover of the last Wu-Tang album. We are literally scattered and divided energy. The goal, therefore, as can be seen when reading, "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy & Immortality", is to gather all aspects of the self together again. Lao Tzu comments on this, "The Tao gave birth to One. One gave birth to Two. Two gave birth to Three. Three gave birth to Ten Thousand." The, "Two" mentioned here, is the Yin and the Yang. We have to backtrack really.

[Fatal Guillotine]

Originally Posted by Urban_Journalz

This is only a brief description, but I'll do the best I can. The Yin/Yang Symbol is a representation of what comes after the pure divine power that is creation itself. In Taoist Yoga, The Yin/Yang state is the stage before that of absolute oneness as far as the microcosm is concerned. The state most of us are in now, is represented by the 8 Trigrams of The I-Ching, seen most recently for most of us on the cover of the last Wu-Tang album. We are literally scattered and divided energy. The goal, therefore, as can be seen when reading, "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy & Immortality", is to gather all aspects of the self together again. Lao Tzu comments on this, "The Tao gave birth to One. One gave birth to Two. Two gave birth to Three. Three gave birth to Ten Thousand." The, "Two" mentioned here, is the Yin and the Yang. We have to backtrack really.

good drop

check this out

The Story of Ying and Yang and the earliest correlation to cosmology
http://www.regenerating-universe.org..._cosmology.htm

[Fatal Guillotine]

Wu Wei

http://www.jadedragon.com/archives/june98/tao.html

[Prince Rai]

Originally Posted by Ghost In The 'Lac

Youve all failed Taoism lesson 1, by trying to say "what it is".

If you had even read the first line of the Tao Te Ching, The Tao that can be described is not the eternal Tao.

So stop asking "what it is", and go and read. The Tao places no value in words, and in fact, the Tao Te Ching is mostly concerned with the futility of language.

Language is the Taos greatest enemy.

You obviously didn't understand my last paragraph.

Here is your flaw:

You say that language is Taos greatest enemy, and then you, in the same post say, "go and read".

You are therefore prescribing to us the enemy of Tao to get closer to somehow grasping the idea of Tao?

Moreover, if by reading material surrounding the Tao allows us to familiarise ourselves somewhat to what "it is", then isn't language at the same time Taoisms best friend?



Remember that Tao is an eternal "Way". In eternity, language cannot always stay the enemy.

[Prince Rai]

^^

And just to add on,

by NO means is language the enemy, it is ALWAYS the intention of the PERSON who uses it!

[knowcheeze]

PEACE
well.....even though
the gospel of Hiphop is now
mah favorite number 1 book/scripture

the number 2 spot is a tie......
Love cipher(120) or I Ching

so owl speak on sum I Ching

the 6th line of the hexagram generally
denotes the sage....the hermit....that
dude on the mountain top....which can
easily alternate to the situation of the
1st line due to the fact that sages in
the mountain generally are not rich

if you notice religious folks tend to have
money problems due to scripture
misinterpertation

the 5th line usually denotes the king

the 4th the people surrounding the king

the 3rd is usually where the trouble goes down

the 2nd line usually where the the good
regular type folks is

and 1st is like the 2nd except usually
represents the infancy of a situation

Wind/Wood is symbolic of the Liver
The liver deals with extra sensory perception
and mental powers
Wind wood is symbolic of proceedinghumbly

grouped with wind/wood is thunder is symbolic of the gall bladder
which deals with decision making
and taking action

fire(and small intestine) is symbolic of the heart
brightness

the earth is symbolic of the stomach
and deals with resposiveness and pure
yin energy

the mountain is grouped with earth and is
symbolic of the spleen which
deals with meditation and transferring
the earths energy into usable energy

heaven is lungs which deals with initiating
and pure yang energy

the lake is grouped with heaven and
symbolizes the large intestine
and JOY

and water is kidney....danger
hardship

[pro.Graveface]

the i - TJING is book of changes , my pops is deep with it, he throws 3coinz and al ,allwayz funny when i interupt itslike he in mad calculating mood, haha, yo ima try to get that tao-te-tjing