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Old 09-11-2005, 07:57 AM   #31
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yes i do, and i understand why Muhammad pbuh changed at that time. from what he was.. to how he has been remembered. a prophet with a sword..i wouldnt say he changed.. i would say the person who was channalling (prophet aka messiah meannt channall0r at that time) to Muhammad at that time, had changed or had another motive..
you can not say even your self, that the Prophet Muhammad pbh didnt change from that point in his life




i read much more than david icke
have u ever read an icke book? might be good to read it, as u will see for urself what he says.. and not believe the rodicule and hype that is their besides his reptile stuff.. he uses many many many many
old books, that show REAL history, most of the booksare widely recommended. by alot of people
some authors he uses are aldous Huxley,albert pike(33 degree freemason) hunter s thompson

he uses national geographic magazine, genesis revisted,, the isis papers, the hollow earth,the dead sea scrolls in english, Nexus magazine
L. A. Waddell,
The Phoenician Origin Of Britons, Scots And Anglo Saxons
Manly p hall, the secret teachings of all ages ( 33rd degree freemasonic historian!!)
The Book Your Church Doesn’t Want You To Read,
William Cooper,
Behold A Pale Horse
Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh and Henry Lincoln,
Holy Blood, Holy Grail
i could go on for days. and yes i read those books before i got into david icke.
he uses many un classified docs that the govt has made available now..
the truths of history are their, it depends if u want the real
or the official govt versions of it.. u know the nice candy coated shit
many others say what icke says. he just connects the WHOLE puzzle.
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Old 09-11-2005, 10:41 AM   #32
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^^ nah please tell me
i want to know, which god will help u
he gon help you, cause he´s all that
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Old 09-11-2005, 11:09 AM   #33
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dope art work..
i have faith and belief in my own abilities.

plus hsowing me. hindu pics doesnt work
as im sikh
ive researched where sikhs came from
back to hindu's back to the Vedics. back to the indus valley and back to the aryans of the cacassus mountians..

aint nothin new man

if u wanna go through verse of the Bhavangita with me.. thats love.. im sure we will both learn... pictures are taken literally same as holy texts.
theirs a deeper meaning in most things..

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Old 09-11-2005, 12:21 PM   #34
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dope art work..
i have faith and belief in my own abilities.

plus hsowing me. hindu pics doesnt work
as im sikh
ive researched where sikhs came from
back to hindu's back to the Vedics. back to the indus valley and back to the aryans of the cacassus mountians..

aint nothin new man

if u wanna go through verse of the Bhavangita with me.. thats love.. im sure we will both learn... pictures are taken literally same as holy texts.
theirs a deeper meaning in most things..

peace Brahma
knowledge born..

i mean pics show a view but words paint a picture with larger capacities..

anywhozz.. just sayn..

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Old 09-11-2005, 10:28 PM   #35
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i believe that there is one god
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Old 09-11-2005, 10:33 PM   #36
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Me too, but do you have an logical reason to believe that there is one God?
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As opposed to multiple gods.
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Old 09-12-2005, 08:13 AM   #38
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he gon help you, cause he´s all that
Thats just pretty artwork, designed to make the mind fall in love with false gods.
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Old 09-12-2005, 08:20 AM   #39
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yes i do, and i understand why Muhammad pbuh changed at that time. from what he was.. to how he has been remembered. a prophet with a sword..i wouldnt say he changed.. i would say the person who was channalling (prophet aka messiah meannt channall0r at that time) to Muhammad at that time, had changed or had another motive..
you can not say even your self, that the Prophet Muhammad pbh didnt change from that point in his life




i read much more than david icke
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old books, that show REAL history, most of the booksare widely recommended. by alot of people
some authors he uses are aldous Huxley,albert pike(33 degree freemason) hunter s thompson

he uses national geographic magazine, genesis revisted,, the isis papers, the hollow earth,the dead sea scrolls in english, Nexus magazine
L. A. Waddell,
The Phoenician Origin Of Britons, Scots And Anglo Saxons
Manly p hall, the secret teachings of all ages ( 33rd degree freemasonic historian!!)
The Book Your Church Doesn’t Want You To Read,


William Cooper,
Behold A Pale Horse




Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh and Henry Lincoln,
Holy Blood, Holy Grail



i could go on for days. and yes i read those books before i got into david icke.
he uses many un classified docs that the govt has made available now..

the truths of history are their, it depends if u want the real
or the official govt versions of it.. u know the nice candy coated shit

many others say what icke says. he just connects the WHOLE puzzle.


peace
Peace,

a Prophet wit a sword? whats that supposed to mean, i askedyou do you knowthe stiry of Muhammad pbuh from the time he recieved the Angel Gabriel?

if u did u wouldnt be saying Prophet with a sword

The film The Message is a good account of what happened around this time.

About Icke, i have most of his books on my computer and i read various chapters -

he has some great and explosive information, but he makes many mistakes and silly assumptions - and could be a worker for the elite anyways - look after all the evilness he exposes throughout his whole book, he goes and says the only solution is "Infinite Love" and that he wants to hug Henry Kissinger and everyone (!!??)

this is why David Icke is only a good source for SOME info and not religious guidance.

About the 4th dimension stuff, i will make a new thread about all this soon.

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Old 09-12-2005, 01:47 PM   #40
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As opposed to multiple gods.
has been mentioned couple of times
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there are many gods..only one supreme creator...
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Old 11-04-2005, 02:35 PM   #42
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there are many gods..only one supreme creator...
there are many gods? yet one supreme creator? so why is there the need for more gods if there is one utimate God?

clearly God is already ultimate so any other Gods is just a faulty misuse feel me?


(in terms of how u answered this)
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Old 11-04-2005, 02:37 PM   #43
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there does not need to be more than one

so
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the universe is a simple place
the human mind is complex
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yes that is true..

more than one is illogical to the purpose of God! a supreme cannot have a second or third or whatever!
how can it be supreme then?

it takes one power to control the complexity of what God created!
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something i wrote for a different website:

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this is a metaphor
but
it might be a parable - only i cannot remember what exactly a parable is

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background:
i have had this idea on my mind for a while now
it is sort of a response to the 'what the fuck is really going on?' question which is still liable to swim thru my head

as of late - it was inspired by a conversation in another forum about krishna which had me rolling my eyes


Quote:the person on the other forum wrote: According to Bhagavadgita, we are parts and parcels of God (Krishna). We are Krishna's marginal potency, which means that we have free will. We're one with Krishna and different from Krishna at the same time. This philosophy is called acyntia abheda bheda tattva -inconcievable potency of God. We're one in quality, that means that as God has free will, we also have free will in minute form. But in quantity we're different. Krishna is greater than us in that sense, that he is all pervading, we're not.


it was also brought to mind by this comic:



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here is the lowdown:



you create a fictional character

you are the creator of this character and this character is able to live as long as you do

this character knows that you are its creator
and knows that it lives as long as you do


nothing goes on for this character
it has no need for anything
because
you provide for it

because of the relationship the character has with you
it has no need to do anything
ever


so
for the fuck of it
you create a character of the opposite sex


you let this character know the lowdown as well
and you provide the means for them to create more characters on their own


so your two characters get busy making more
but
they decide not to let their offspring know about you

and instead
they tell them other versions of
where they came from and how to provide for themselves
(fear etc)


eventually
all knowledge of you
-the creator-
gets jumbled into a mess


fast forward until the civilization that you created has 6.5 billion people
some of these 6.5 billion have NO FUCKING IDEA that you created them
and they are approaching this universe you created
with the intent of controlling it all


yes
that means some of these characters
which exist in your imagination
have NO IDEA that they are in your imagination
and they are trying to control you


yes
fictional characters
trying to control you


eventually
they develop an internet-type system for communication
and due to the seemingly infinite amount of information available to them
some of the imaginary characters manage to piece together what the deal is
that they are a part of your imagination

these characters cease trying to control the universe that you created
because they realize that it would be ridiculous


i am not sure where this goes yet
but
the characters wind up realizing that they could create a metaphorical scenario where

they create characters in their imagination
and they wind up posting messages very similar to this one on the internet

*****

can somebody please let me know where this metaphor falls apart?
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