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Old 01-16-2009, 04:09 PM   #46
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LOL. I know what i'm talking about. So are you saying Ghost didn't write his verse on "Paisley Dartz" too?
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Old 01-20-2009, 02:21 PM   #47
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Paisley Dartz:

Catch me on yo' brochure with beachballs, at least three whores
Head wop Queens know how to work they jaws
They skintone is coffee and milk, mixed up
Ass as big as my boss' wife, stomach ripped up
Spitting liquor in they mouth, cold Moet
Captain Morgan, taking flicks, posing, holding my tech
With cowboy hats and coach bags, they party like rockstars
Bo Gary watches, just chill, they down in the shark bars
And me, gunslinger, clips, cock D
My fashion on, I'm rocking 'em new Rasheeds
I'ma finish ya, go in brother like Mr. Cee
You could find me fucked up like the mice in cheese
Life's a B, Bentley and big bills
Bottles, biscuits, bitches, blunts, bad boys bodying pit bulls
Karate, black belt and I bring booze
To big bar brawls, ball games blasting, fuck 'til my balls blue
----------------------------------------------------------
Aiyo, aiyo, you know ya boy stay fresher than produce
Timberland snow boots, collecting more CREAM than a toll booth
I grind daily, Patriotic like Tom Brady
I'm the bomb baby, cuz what I write is beyond crazy
I'm the Don with the teflon armor, good karma, mac palmer
Call me Arab Diesel cuz I'm a track bomber
Roger that, my niggaz ain't got it cracked
All we do is dollar stack, get twisted like bottlecaps
While you on the block getting indicted
We island hopping, globe trotting through the friendly skies flying United
There's a party over here and everybody's invited
The headliners is Theodore and everybody's excited


You try telling me these verses werent written by the same person
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Old 01-20-2009, 04:10 PM   #48
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"And me, gunslinger, clips, cock D..."

is a construction trife would never ever come up with, as well as the ending:

"Life's a B, Bentley and big bills
Bottles, biscuits, bitches, blunts, bad boys bodying pit bulls
Karate, black belt and I bring booze
To big bar brawls, ball games blasting, fuck 'til my balls blue"

which is one of those "eat with the english"-style "barely rhymes, it's all in how you say it" kind of trademark ghostface lines that, again, just isn't trife's style.

it's obvious that trife, having been by ghost's side for the past 8 years, has influenced ghost. but there's a big difference between that and saying trife ghostwrote the verse for him, which in a case like pasley darts where each guy is just supposed to come with their illest rhymes doesn't even make sense.

i seriously doubt trife's contributed anything more than a line here or there on ghost's albums, but the ones where ghost appears on another rapper's record are more suspect.
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Old 01-20-2009, 04:13 PM   #49
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i doubt trife wrote all those
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:01 PM   #50
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:12 PM   #51
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Paisley Dartz:

Catch me on yo' brochure with beachballs, at least three whores
Head wop Queens know how to work they jaws
They skintone is coffee and milk, mixed up
Ass as big as my boss' wife, stomach ripped up
Spitting liquor in they mouth, cold Moet
Captain Morgan, taking flicks, posing, holding my tech
With cowboy hats and coach bags, they party like rockstars
Bo Gary watches, just chill, they down in the shark bars
And me, gunslinger, clips, cock D
My fashion on, I'm rocking 'em new Rasheeds
I'ma finish ya, go in brother like Mr. Cee
You could find me fucked up like the mice in cheese
Life's a B, Bentley and big bills
Bottles, biscuits, bitches, blunts, bad boys bodying pit bulls
Karate, black belt and I bring booze
To big bar brawls, ball games blasting, fuck 'til my balls blue
----------------------------------------------------------
Aiyo, aiyo, you know ya boy stay fresher than produce
Timberland snow boots, collecting more CREAM than a toll booth
I grind daily, Patriotic like Tom Brady
I'm the bomb baby, cuz what I write is beyond crazy
I'm the Don with the teflon armor, good karma, mac palmer
Call me Arab Diesel cuz I'm a track bomber
Roger that, my niggaz ain't got it cracked
All we do is dollar stack, get twisted like bottlecaps
While you on the block getting indicted
We island hopping, globe trotting through the friendly skies flying United
There's a party over here and everybody's invited
The headliners is Theodore and everybody's excited


You try telling me these verses werent written by the same person
Both Trife verses, no doubt about it.

No ones saying GFK didnt put in his own line here n there, of course he prolly did, but those are Trife verses, straight up.

Youre looking at the words, Firm, but you also need to be looking at the patterns of the tense.

GFK has never done his own veres with the rigid structure of a Trife verse. A real GFK verse is all over the fuckign place,patterns, flow, rhythem, he flexes it all the time, theres non of that structure of a Trife, hell flip a new style every few lines, like Mef does, and like his biggest rap influence, Slick Rick does.

I know the longtime close attention Ghostface fans know whatim talkinbout. I can see how a casual listener it isnt so obvious. Im not saying Firm is a casual listener btw.
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:31 PM   #52
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i really don't know how you can pigeonhole ghostface's style, which throughout his entire career has evolved much more than the average rapper, and say anything that deviates from that set of "ghost traits" automatically must be written by someone else.

look it's simple: ghost picked up styles from a lot of different people he came in contact with:

-moving from 36 to cuban he picked up rae's delivery
-he really stepped up his slang game and usage of abstract terms when cappa came on the scene
-his more emotive delivery is straight from superb

what's so hard to believe about ghost having absorbed trife's style since BPW?

i think you want to believe that ghost's more recent work, particularly the stuff you don't like, is written by someone else because you don't want to recognize that ghost has changed. and now when he goes to turn in a verse of his illest darts it comes out sounding like his verse on paisley darts or 9 milli bros instead of like it did on triumph.
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:36 PM   #53
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i still think its possible that ghost wrote em trife style.
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^no youre overthinking it. i also think youre reachin by saying "its just another example of a new ghost style"

makes you sound kinda ignorant actually about understanding Ghost's unique style.

Ok you can say "ghost just is 'copying' trifes style" and not using him to write, but what the fuck? you really beleive that?

you really beleive hes just got trife right there, and hes just sopyign his style for some reason? get real son.

ghost has even come out and told a fan that he didnt write that Cormega verse.
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and anyway i wasn't just looking at the words in ghost's verse but more the prose:

[Ass as big as my boss' wife] [stomach ripped up]
[Spitting liquor in they mouth] [cold Moet]
[Captain Morgan] [taking flicks] [posing] [holding my tech]
[With cowboy hats and coach bags] [they party like rockstars]
[Bo Gary watches] [just chill] [they down in the shark bars]

find me the trife verse that has that kind of disjointed wordplay, basically telling a story but instead of using sentences he uses discrete idea that connect or relate to one another in some way.

off the top of my head, another verse that's similar to this one in terms of the prose is jellyfish, and that one absolutely belongs to ghost.

so find me a trife verse that has a structure even remotely similar to this one and maybe i'll take you seriously
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:42 PM   #56
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no of course he's not watching trife and copying him.

when you hang around real people you tend to pick up some of their phrases, mannerisms, etc.

well the same thing has happened with ghost throughout his career. he's subconsciously absorbed words (like "big doe rehab") and other shit from the rappers he's been around. trife is no different. it happens.
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and besides i've already said that i think trife has actually written some verses for ghost, the cormega one being one of them, but i just think it's limited to guest verses.
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and anyway i wasn't just looking at the words in ghost's verse but more the prose:

[Ass as big as my boss' wife] [stomach ripped up]
[Spitting liquor in they mouth] [cold Moet]
[Captain Morgan] [taking flicks] [posing] [holding my tech]
[With cowboy hats and coach bags] [they party like rockstars]
[Bo Gary watches] [just chill] [they down in the shark bars]

find me the trife verse that has that kind of disjointed wordplay, basically telling a story but instead of using sentences he uses discrete idea that connect or relate to one another in some way.


so find me a trife verse that has a structure even remotely similar to this one and maybe i'll take you seriously
Are you fuckign serious? Have you never actualyl listened to Trife? Or are you just rap retarded?

I dont know for sure about this verse, its not of big concern this verse, but still its suspect

My fashion on, I'm rocking 'em new Rasheeds
I'ma finish ya, go in brother like Mr. Cee
You could find me fucked up like the mice in cheese

Life's a B, Bentley and big bills
Bottles, biscuits, bitches, blunts, bad boys bodying pit bulls
Karate, black belt and I bring booze
To big bar brawls, ball games blasting, fuck 'til my balls blue


Yes even that whole B part, Trife does this
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:48 PM   #59
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why just cuz he's talking about fashion and uses 2 similes in a row?

i mean, you're saying ghostface didn't write this so what are you basing that on? go ahead, enlighten me.
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^there you go, another one.

Ghost just doesnt rap like that. He never has, all those similies and shit. The rhythem of the rhymes is Trife as well.

I personally think this is totally bullshit on Ghost's part. It pisses me off as a fan.
Agreed. There you have it.
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