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Old 02-26-2009, 05:08 PM   #31
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just shut up you stupid faggot. nobody cares
People are still responding to the thread.

Stop being upset because you do not know much about basketball beyond superficial statistics.

You don't know how to have a conversation that is completely subjective and opinion-based, because you are too emotional and pseudo-intellectual, and at least in this case, inexperienced.

But youre awesome at fantasy, right?

You are projecting your anger at nobody picking the doughy kid at a recess at me.

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Old 02-26-2009, 05:16 PM   #32
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Billups is over-rated.

He went from being under-rated to being over-rated.

People's reaction to THIS YEAR is evidence.

The Pistons were on there way down before he left.

The Nuggets are Melo's team and they lost Iverson. Addition by subtraction.

That being said, Chauncey is still a good point guard.

But he is overrated.
nope no way.


if it was all iverson than denver would not have been a playoff team with AI. because if that was the case, detriot, in a weaker conference would still be a playoff team. they clearly are not.

the mitigating factor in all this is billups, NOT AI.

its billups leaving that made them bad, not iverson joining. and its billups joining the nuggets that made them better than they were. they were a deecent team before AI and with AI, but they were never going to get better than that, until they added chauncy. now they are a better team than they were pre-AI and during AI times.
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90% of the people who posted in this thread think you're a moron

deal with that.
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90% of the people who posted in this thread think you're a moron

deal with that.
Yes, but if you want to get into statistics, I am willing to bet that %95 of people on this forum don't know shit about sports, and probably have never played organized basketball.

That being said, I don't think they necessarily think I'm a moron, they just happen to disagree.

That is what discussion is all about.

I know it hurts you when people disagree with your pseudo-informed opinions, but such is life.

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Old 02-26-2009, 05:24 PM   #35
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nope no way.


if it was all iverson than denver would not have been a playoff team with AI. because if that was the case, detriot, in a weaker conference would still be a playoff team. they clearly are not.

the mitigating factor in all this is billups, NOT AI.

its billups leaving that made them bad, not iverson joining. and its billups joining the nuggets that made them better than they were. they were a deecent team before AI and with AI, but they were never going to get better than that, until they added chauncy. now they are a better team than they were pre-AI and during AI times.
The pistons were old and irrelevant in the East WITH Billups.

Iverson leaving and Melo maturing were the most important reasons the Nuggets have improved.

I am not denying that BIllups is a factor in both situations, but he is not the main factor, and he is not a basketball savior.
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Old 02-26-2009, 05:31 PM   #36
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no, they don't disagree, they think you're a moron. Because anybody who tries this hard to prove something this pointless, is a moron.


Now write another 4-5 sentences calling me whatever you want so you feel better about the fact you're a moron. I'll wait.
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no, they don't disagree, they think you're a moron. Because anybody who tries this hard to prove something this pointless, is a moron.


Now write another 4-5 sentences calling me whatever you want so you feel better about the fact you're a moron. I'll wait.
I am not trying hard. Also, you cannot prove an opinion. I am voicing a less-represented viewpoint for the sake of healthy debate.

I don't understand why you are getting so emotional about it, but it is cute.

If you want, you can PM me and I will teach you about sports.
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I am not trying hard. Also, you cannot prove an opinion. I am voicing a less-represented viewpoint for the sake of healthy debate.

I don't understand why you are getting so emotional about it, but it is cute.

If you want, you can PM me and I will teach you about sports.
I played and coached organized ball, so teach away.
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Why does everybody from Kentucky think they have the patent on the pick and roll?
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I, personally, invented the pick n' roll on my middle school team in 1994.

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The pistons were old and irrelevant in the East WITH Billups.
how could you possibly figure that?
They made it to I-dont-even-know how many eastern and NBA finals in a row with him and won the championship in that time
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They made it to I-dont-even-know how many eastern and NBA finals in a row with him and won the championship in that time
They were a great team, don't get me wrong.

But as of last year, the Celtics and the Cavs were clearly the class of the East.

The Pistons, even with Billups, were not going to be serious contenders this year.
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now that i think of it, I do think Billups is slightly overrated. He hits shots but he's not a great player or anything.

he's just a solid player and an occasional all-star because he plays on a good team. He probably does have a better all around game than most but he doesnt really do any 1 thing great.

He's just solid. Like a guy like Kenny Smith was for the Rockets
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They were a great team, don't get me wrong.

But as of last year, the Celtics and the Cavs were clearly the class of the East.

The Pistons, even with Billups, were not going to be serious contenders this year.
well yeah even I would agree with that
but that's not because of billups, and obviously he isn't the kind of player to carry a team on his own
the pistons in general just started getting old after that championship and losing big ben didn't help

anywayz unfortunately I haven't seen very much of billups at all this year but I saw every game as a piston, he's good I dunno about overrated
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espn marc stiens power rankings for this week...the nuggets...

6 (6) Nuggets 39-21 No excuse for not having Furious George on our weekend list of COY contenders. Billups gets most of the credit for saving the post-Camby Nuggets, but with Melo's missing 15 games, Coach has to get some, too.

just sayin.
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