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Old 06-13-2012, 10:57 PM   #9961
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Love it when people use got Rodman or Pippen and then say Shaq or Jamison was old. Rodman was 35 years old when he came to the Bulls. For instance Ben Wallace on the Cavs was only 33.

The Bulls never went out and got a star player for Jordan. Pippen didn't become a star until later on after playing with MJ.
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Old 06-13-2012, 11:11 PM   #9962
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lol @ saying that nobody is close to Lebron
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Old 06-13-2012, 11:13 PM   #9963
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Like has been stated, Lebron not showing up in the 4th quarter in last year's finals was a big reason that they lost, he got scared.
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Old 06-13-2012, 11:32 PM   #9964
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YEA RODMAN USED TO AVERAGE 16 18 BOARDS A GAME, GUESS WHAT 35 YR OLD TIMER RODMAN AVERAGED WHEN HE JOINED THE BULLS...
YUP 13-14 REBOUNDS A GAME ROFL
God danm your slow.

To bring up Pippen and Rodman as evidence of the Bulls stacking the deck for Jordan is ridiculous. When Rodman went to Chicago it was a move that was considered a pretty big risk seeing as Rodman had almost single-handedly sabotaged the Spurs championship efforts. Stop using Rodman as an example it shows you don't know bball. Rodman came for the 4th ring when Jordan was already being called the goat and had 3 rings.

Most of the writers and articles point to that MJ aided Pippen into becoming the player he became. I could post several without a problem.

If LeBron wins six in eight then we can look back at the Decision and his other laughable failures as growing pains. Until then, he's still the only superstar I can think of who was outscored by a Jason Terry level player in the NBA Finals.

The difference, one turned that lowly franchise into a dynasty while one left to go play with a guy in his prime that already got the job done for a franchise that never won prior to him arriving.
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:49 AM   #9965
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lol @ saying that nobody is close to Lebron
so, why do you think he's not the best player of his era?

**awaits poor argument from check two** somebody better help this kid out.
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Old 06-14-2012, 08:49 AM   #9966
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Most of the writers and articles point to that MJ aided Pippen into becoming the player he became. I could post several without a problem.
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i agree with the writers.

some people have gone as far as saying pippen was just as good if not better than jordan. people like to site the year a jodranless bulls team with pippen won 55 games and made it to the second round of the playoffs as why pippen was on jordan's level as a player.

they conveniently leave out the fact that the following year the jordanless bulls were on the verge of missing the playoffs altogether until jordan came back very late in the season and they went on a winning streak to secure a playoff spot.

they also dont want to talk about how much of a non-factor he was when he was in houston and in portland. the blazers didnt damn near win the west because of him. they won because of rasheed wallace, damon stadoumire, arvidus sabonis, and isiah rider. a lot of talent and a deep bench, with or without pippen.

people will say thats because he was old. pippen was the same age as jordan when jordan won his last 3 titles.
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:05 AM   #9967
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so, why do you think he's not the best player of his era?

**awaits poor argument from check two** somebody better help this kid out.
Durant is close, but James is the best over all player
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:20 AM   #9968
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really? no love for kobe?

there isnt a player playing right now that has lebron's talent and ability. there are players that have been more successful because they have played on better teams that were better coached.
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:34 AM   #9969
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really? no love for kobe?

there isnt a player playing right now that has lebron's talent and ability. there are players that have been more successful because they have played on better teams that were better coached.

Kobe is at the end of his career James, and Durant are in their prime
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Old 06-14-2012, 11:14 AM   #9970
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i agree with the writers.

some people have gone as far as saying pippen was just as good if not better than jordan. people like to site the year a jodranless bulls team with pippen won 55 games and made it to the second round of the playoffs as why pippen was on jordan's level as a player.

they conveniently leave out the fact that the following year the jordanless bulls were on the verge of missing the playoffs altogether until jordan came back very late in the season and they went on a winning streak to secure a playoff spot.

they also dont want to talk about how much of a non-factor he was when he was in houston and in portland. the blazers didnt damn near win the west because of him. they won because of rasheed wallace, damon stadoumire, arvidus sabonis, and isiah rider. a lot of talent and a deep bench, with or without pippen.

people will say thats because he was old. pippen was the same age as jordan when jordan won his last 3 titles.
We can see without MJ in 94, 95 Pip's stats went slightly up. So without Jordan he might have routinely posted 1-2 higher PER seasons, but obviously far less if any titles, unless he lucked into another legit 1st option on his team.

It's also fair to suggest he might not have ever grown into the player he was without Jordan's tutelage. When they asked Pip who was the toughest player he ever guarded, he said, "MJ, in practice every day." Questionable if he fine tunes his defensive ability to the same degree with out that every day experience against the best.

Pippen lead them to the semi-finals without Jordan. They were also extremely fortunate that Cleveland (who had beat them 4-1 during the season) was missing 2 of its top 3 players plus Price was injured, or else they might have not advanced past the first round.
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Old 06-14-2012, 11:18 AM   #9971
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LeBron is #1.

I like Dwight, Durant, Bryant, Paul and Wade in the next class. All of them do very different things, so its hard to choose without knowing their surroundings.
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so, why do you think he's not the best player of his era?

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How many Lebron posters do you have in your room? Kobe is a better overall player.
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And like I said in the past, if other superstars would have been put in Lebron's spot with that Cavs team, I wouldn't have been surprised if they would have won a championship.
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How many Lebron posters do you have in your room? Kobe is a better overall player.
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And like I said in the past, if other superstars would have been put in Lebron's spot with that Cavs team, I wouldn't have been surprised if they would have won a championship.
kobe did have that team for 3 years after shaq left and before pau came to town. didnt make the playoffs one year and was out in the first the other two.
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By the way, if I recall, how many all stars did Hakeem have on his team when the Rockets won that first championship?
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