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Old 06-15-2009, 05:22 PM   #16
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Europe would also be viewed as a bunch of stuck up bastards unwilling to help solve the worlds problems.
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Islam is a religion of Law. You fuck with Muslims you're going to have a hard time feeding yourself with no hands... Dat's kharma.
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Old 06-15-2009, 05:23 PM   #17
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the saudis fear the Iranians and their grasp at power at the region.

they are different sects.

do u think the sunnis and shi'ites ultimately can come together?

the pussy ass saudis are even siding with the US when it comes to Irans nuclear capability. theyre scared for their safety if Iran gets that power cause theyre
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LOL Saudis arent scared of shit from Iran

Iran is a mess right now. The economy is dying, theyve blown all the Oil money from the last 30 years, unemployment is high, the young dont really like the Ayatollahs anymore.
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Old 06-15-2009, 05:29 PM   #18
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the Saudis support the americans when it comes to Iran and there attempts at developing nuclear energy. this is because they are sunni's and are scared of s shi'ite super power in the region.

this is not what i said this is the research of political scholars
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Old 06-15-2009, 05:30 PM   #19
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who said?

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The only things Ahmadinejad has done wrong are:

1. Threatened his enemies hollowly.

2. Not mobilized his military to liberate Iraq, outnumbering an overstretched US military and forcing Israel to confront his legions of Revolutionary Guard and slaughter their ass. This would force Europeans (NATO) to either engage in a pointless war against a local powerhouse who would manage to draw forces from radical groups across the region, Syria's army, and spark a full scale uprising in Afghanistan by having the Ayatollahs declare it a Jihad. If Europe didn't aid America, America would be forced to draft its people leading to a Vietnam part II and a serious collapse of American support for the Government and military. Europe would also be viewed as a bunch of stuck up bastards unwilling to help solve the worlds problems.

If he manages to defeat the United States, he'll be well on his way to kicking off a Islamic Revolution across most of the Arab nations, leading to a reemergence of a united Islamic Caliphate ruling from Tehran. He could probably have the Saudi King given the title Khalif or something to legitimatize the motion.

Ahmadinejad is probably one of my favorite world leaders. I hate Muslims who claim they're a religion of Peace. Islam is a religion of Law. You fuck with Muslims you're going to have a hard time feeding yourself with no hands... Dat's kharma.
lmao your way way ahead of yourself. Tehran has never and will never lead some sort of Islamic revolution, no one will listen to them. Iran wont clash with NATO because that means it clashes with its biggest neighbour. aint gonna happen.

secondly no one is caliph, no one can grant you the title, especially no Saudi King. the last guy who was meant to inherit the title actually died in Normandy fighting for the allies. funny old world. and yes Islam is a religion of peace.

the situation in Iran is complex, from the outside you see millions march on the streets of Tehran protesting the government. but what you must realise is that Ahmedinejad gets the votes of the common uneducated poor Iranian. and theres a fucking lot of them. his naturally gonna win the election, the only ones who will vote against him are the upper class liberal iranians. and i doubt they are in such a great number outside of Tehran. One thing which is also important to acknowledge is that even if Musavi won, he wouldnt be able to make much change as the country is run by the Ayatollah.

Iran is a mess, the youth are starting to rise up against the Supreme leaders. but the majority are still on the side of the Ayatollah, it will take some time to convince the others that the Ayatollah is a cunt.
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Old 06-15-2009, 07:39 PM   #22
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Why couldn't a new person become a Caliph? A Turk would be the Ideal person, but since the blood of Osman seems to be spent, could not a new dynasty be established.

At the very least a new Sultanate would be an interesting twist.

I'm aware that Iran and Arabia are not the same cult... er branch of Islam, but I would think some sort of unification is necessary if Islam is to prosper.

I mean honestly, they're arguing about a position that no longer exists... There is no Caliph, I don't know what the problem is.

I'm of the Opinion that the position shouldn't need to be held by a member of the bloodline. Does that make me a Sunni?

Obviously Iran are cunts but if they're going to be evil villains I at least expect some results
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Where is the evidence of electoral cheating?

Where is the evidence of electoral cheating?

Where is the evidence of electoral cheating?
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Old 06-15-2009, 09:44 PM   #24
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hahah..

shits funny when the shoe is on the other foot.

Role reversals and all of dat.
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lmao your way way ahead of yourself. Tehran has never and will never lead some sort of Islamic revolution, no one will listen to them. Iran wont clash with NATO because that means it clashes with its biggest neighbour. aint gonna happen.

secondly no one is caliph, no one can grant you the title, especially no Saudi King. the last guy who was meant to inherit the title actually died in Normandy fighting for the allies. funny old world. and yes Islam is a religion of peace.

the situation in Iran is complex, from the outside you see millions march on the streets of Tehran protesting the government. but what you must realise is that Ahmedinejad gets the votes of the common uneducated poor Iranian. and theres a fucking lot of them. his naturally gonna win the election, the only ones who will vote against him are the upper class liberal iranians. and i doubt they are in such a great number outside of Tehran. One thing which is also important to acknowledge is that even if Musavi won, he wouldnt be able to make much change as the country is run by the Ayatollah.

Iran is a mess, the youth are starting to rise up against the Supreme leaders. but the majority are still on the side of the Ayatollah, it will take some time to convince the others that the Ayatollah is a cunt.
Exactly.
They've been a mess even before the Ayatollah. The Shah and his police murdered a lot of people during the revolution. Remember the black friday.
And I don't know if the uneducated poor iranian are so important, there are a lot of students too.
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You know, for all the shit that George Bush took, I'd figure the world wide legion of protesters would join hand in hand with the Iranians and protest Ahmadinejad.

Its pretty obvious this election is a farce and it really doesnt surprise me.

The nerve of these people to point fingers at someone else.

Their credibility is shit.

Let Europe deal with it, since they know so much about it and its in their back yard.


I think the US should just let it be....let the Iranians protest. Let them sort it out themselves.

As far as nuclear weapons or technology goes....I'm not for anyone else being able to obtain nuclear weapons.
That just increases the possibility that one may be used.

Israel this, Israel that......they blame everything on the Israel situation but im not really buyin all that shit especially from non Palestinians.
Well it would be stupid to deny the role of the USA in Iran's history.
The CIA put the Shah back in power and the USA welcomed him when he had to left Iran after the revolution.
Jimmy Carter asked the Shah to hand over the power to Khomeini.
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Where is the evidence of electoral cheating?

Where is the evidence of electoral cheating?

Where is the evidence of electoral cheating?
Take as much informations as you can and think about it.
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A lot going on there.
Should they be able to own the nuclear weapon? Is Ahmadinejad a good president or a dictator? Were the elections legit? What do you think is gonna happen now with Moussavi's supporters protesting? It's a divided country for sure.
they should be able to have Nukes. if france, usa or russia have those, why wouldn't they?
nuclear bomb is strategic weapon therefore every country strives for it. they didin't do anything aggressive (trashtalking against israel and west is part of folklore in asia)


we don't know is he good or bad, we're not persians. i don't beleive to CNN neither.
dictatorship is just a part of tradition in ths area, ever since ancient persia. (eastern despotism)



Iran is backed up by russia and China, that's so obvious.
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Where is the evidence of electoral cheating?

Where is the evidence of electoral cheating?

Where is the evidence of electoral cheating?
You can't provide evidence because there is no independent monitoring of the votes during elections in Iran so no one outside of the Mullah's knows. Not one election in Iran's history has been independently monitored. The voters are "helped" by "officials" to cast their vote as candidates and supporters are not allowed to be present.

Iranian elections are a great case of the rhetorical question; "If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to see it does it make a sound?"

If there is no independent monitoring of the vote count did the true result ever come to hand?

The right to vote in Iran is what is really fraudulant.
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