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Old 07-28-2009, 10:12 AM   #46
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Nothing if you can say that without putting other people down.
why should we continue to be "put down"?

see, the problem is you dont understand where they are coming from when they practice what they practice.

maybe you need to study the history of the Africans in America.

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That doesn't seem to be the agenda though.
what do you mean.



summed up, it is the agenda.


dont make stupid assumptions.
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Old 07-28-2009, 10:16 AM   #47
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why should we continue to be "put down"?

see, the problem is you dont understand where they are coming from when they practice what they practice.

maybe you need to study the history of the Africans in America.



what do you mean.



summed up, it is the agenda.


dont make stupid assumptions.
You are the one making assumptions and clearly have no reading ability if that is what you took out of my statement. Where did I promote putting down any member of the human race? Thought so. All I stated was there is nothing wrong with improvement if it isn't at the expense of anyone else. If you have a problem with that then your true hatred shows through.
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Old 07-28-2009, 10:23 AM   #48
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there is nothing wrong with improvement if it isn't at the expense of anyone else.
once again, you dont see anything wrong with this statement?







you said "it dosnet seem like the agenda"


im telling you what is "seems" like to you is not what it is because you refuse to take time out and do the knowledge on what it really is.

instead you go to wikipedia for your information.

if you wanted to undersntnad, you would be able to.

like i said before, it is not mind-baffling.

there is nothing to be afraid about.

im telling you they lied to you.
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Old 07-28-2009, 01:55 PM   #49
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Nothing if you can say that without putting other people down. That doesn't seem to be the agenda though.
you have black people that want to alter themselves in order to be and look like those they feel are superior to themselves -

dark skinned sisters with blue contacts and blonde weaves is a part of the result -

when told that blonde stringy hair is recessive and that thick so called nappy hair is stronger,it shocks most who hold onto their traditional beliefs - especially when they are being told that they look beautiful with these alterations


how do you think someone who has been lied to will react to that -

is telling them this about blonde hair the same as "putting other people down"
or is it truth that has been hidden -

that same truth that was said to set us free -

is it true that blonde hair is the results of recessive genes ?


should we hate those who are born like this ?

if we do hate them, how have we demostrated our hate towards them ?


these are questions that need to be answered by those who are looking to understand why these lessons have to be taught - if you are not looking to understand, but want to discuss the lessons, you have an agenda you want to push forth - one that you are not speaking about but is easy to see by those who are looking for and finding truth about self and kind
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Old 07-28-2009, 09:50 PM   #50
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listen man - about white people - when we go through the history of white people and the impact they have had on others across this globe, allot of white people feel guilty and feel that we should hate them because of what they as a group has done - Hatred breeds murder and chaos - skinheads, nazis,kkk, they hate black people - they express their hatred by killing us - burnings,dragging,lynchings, etc....

black people express their hatred toward black people by killing other black people -
we were lied to about our origins, and place on this earth - the NOI restores the Black man -

the white supremest teachings have destroyed the minds of black people all over the world - and it has also destroyed the minds of white people all over the world - its the false teachings of white supremacy that is the target, not white people as individuals - but white individuals who want to continue to benefit in a system that was designed to put them on top of every race and culture, will fight and lie about the NOI - if you can understand the condition that black people in america are left in due to oppression and white supremest teachings, then you can understand why there is a need for the NOI
this is not true..just because you are treated unfairly doesnt mean you have to follow falsehood and thats what the noi is falsehood...its just jibberish that trys to give people a fake sense of pride and keep people from the truth wich is christianity....if blacks are treated unfairly they should follow christ because he is the perfect example for unjust treatment but most blacks are in such pain they feel they need to follow a religion that is not the white mans religion but remember that christianity isnt a white mans religion no matter how much america trys to claim it as there own , the religion was founded by jews in the middle east...but blacks have been blinded by the devil and think because islam is acting like they are going through a struggle that black people feel this fits with there plight and that by joining islam they are rebeling against the white man but ..that is just a cop out to say o blacks have been treated unfairly so islam is the religion for them because it different to the white mans religion....this is exactly what satan wants.



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Old 07-29-2009, 12:09 AM   #51
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this is not true..just because you are treated unfairly doesnt mean you have to follow falsehood and thats what the noi is falsehood...

what's so false about it ?

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its just jibberish that trys to give people a fake sense of pride and keep people from the truth wich is christianity....
where did you hear or read any gibberish ?


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if blacks are treated unfairly they should follow christ because he is the perfect example for unjust treatment

there are many many "blacks" who claim christ and are in the church - in what way are these "blacks" being reformed ?

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but most blacks are in such pain they feel they need to follow a religion that is not the white mans religion but remember that christianity isnt a white mans religion no matter how much america trys to claim it as there own , the religion was founded by jews in the middle east...
ok - these jews you speak of are what ?


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but blacks have been blinded by the devil and think because islam is acting like they are going through a struggle that black people feel this fits with there plight and that by joining islam they are rebeling against the white man but ..
there are many many white people in islam


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that is just a cop out to say o blacks have been treated unfairly so islam is the religion for them because it different to the white mans religion....this is exactly what satan wants.

the whole world is being treated unfairly because remember - satan decieved the whole world -
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Old 07-30-2009, 02:42 PM   #52
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"all i know so far, is that they hate white people or sum shit"

not quite.....om sure sum people in the NOI do hate white people but not all do because Elijah Muhammad specifically said this is not a hate teaching......hate is a toxic emotion

"but i don't wanna judge this religion"

if you don't wanna then why did you?

"til someone can explain to me what they are about and why exactly they beleive black people are superior to everyone else"

uh because so called Africa gave birth to every civilization on earth...

and this has been swept under the rug

when the planet finally comes to grip with this historical fact it won't be as nessesary to teach black supremacy....but until then

the Father of civilization must be glorified....
i didn't judge the religion in any way delibirately, but when everyone is telling me how they believe specific races are 'superior' of course i am gonna make my own assumptions on them, admittidely these assumptions are usually wrong...but it's my nature

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why should we accept that we are inferior?


whats wrong with telling somebody, "they lied to you. you are not inferior. you are great. and matter of fact, you are the greatest. be all you can be"
^ there is nothing wrong with saying that at all, in fact the world would be a much better place if such things were said and remembered more often, but believing that a race is superior to any one else is completely wrong, and sounds alot like what the Nazi's would have said
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