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Old 08-19-2009, 07:52 PM   #1
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What's important though, is to study his example. More than that which is laid down in the Holy Scriptures, I say we should also pick up the books that depict the lost years of his life. When he was travelling the Far East, Tibet, India and China. Learning yet more wisdom and returning to his people with that information.

Many people think that The Prophets knew everything and never had to study under anyone. A look in The Qur'an, Surah Al-Khaf, will show you that Moses, peace be upon him, sought wisdom from one who knew more than him. Due to the impatience of Moses (pbuh) though, he was unable to learn this.

It's a powerful lesson to us all that even the men that we consider to be the greatest among us, also had to exercise patience and seek more than what they had.

A Prophet's lineage is important, but more important is the example that they left behind. Those who have eyes will see.
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What's important though, is to study his example. More than that which is laid down in the Holy Scriptures, I say we should also pick up the books that depict the lost years of his life. When he was travelling the Far East, Tibet, India and China. Learning yet more wisdom and returning to his people with that information.

Many people think that The Prophets knew everything and never had to study under anyone. A look in The Qur'an, Surah Al-Khaf, will show you that Moses, peace be upon him, sought wisdom from one who knew more than him. Due to the impatience of Moses (pbuh) though, he was unable to learn this.

It's a powerful lesson to us all that even the men that we consider to be the greatest among us, also had to exercise patience and seek more than what they had.

A Prophet's lineage is important, but more important is the example that they left behind. Those who have eyes will see.
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moses had to study under someone .....yeah right !

where does the koran come up with this stuff


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Old 08-21-2009, 12:04 AM   #5
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oh yeah ... JESUS wasnt BLACK ...so just give up !


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Old 08-21-2009, 08:27 AM   #6
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moses had to study under someone .....yeah right !

where does the koran come up with this stuff


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You know, if you spent as much time studying as you did trying to find any and every reason to attack Islam, you'd probably learn something.

Anyone with two active braincells to rub togethat knows that all you are is an Islamophobic drone and nothing more. The Bible has been rewritten more times than anyone currently has count of, which is a fine testimony as to just how much has been taken out and added in terms of truth and falsehood. Jesus (pbuh) brought ONE scripture. As did those before him. That Scripture was called The Gospel, which you can't even find in it's original Hebrew tongue anymore. What you call yourself following is a version of The Gospel according to a few people. Some of whom weren't even around Jesus (pbuh) at the time of his teachings. Yet you have the nerve to attack The Qur'an? A book that you most likely haven't read, because if you did, you would've known about the story of Moses and The Wise Man because it's one of the most known stories of this book??

Let me show you how to chap someone's hide properly. The term, "Islam" means, "Submission". Submission to The Creator of all things. All of The Prophets and Messengers prayed and asked for help and guidance from God. Fully submitting themselves to their Creator. This would no doubt make them candidates for the title of, "Muslim", one who submits to the Will of God.

Yes, Moses, pbuh, had to learn from someone. What, did you think Moses, pbuh, knew everything? That would make him God and not man. In which case he would be at the burning bush receiving orders from himself. At the top of Mt. Sinai receiving The 10 Commandments from....himself. There's no line in any book that says any of The Prophets were All-Knowing. That was just you running your mouth for the sake of running it, with absolutely nothing to contribute except a hatred for that which you know all of nothing about.

You don't know enough to start debates like this, so just do yourself a favor and stay in your place. Don't let your hatred get the best of you, because, as has been proven time and again, all it does is make you look even more stupid.
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:31 AM   #7
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According to Webster's...

Hebrew. Noun. Definition 2. "A Semetic language of THE AFRO-ASIATIC FAMILY....."

Even your own book tells you, if you actually read it all the way through and don't just skip around, following what the guy at the podium tells you to do, that Jesus pbuh, had hair like lamb's wool and feet like burnt copper or bronze clay. Does this sound like the description of a white man to you?

This is why you always end up getting laughed at, because you choose to learn what you want to learn, instead of simply choosing to learn.
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What's important though, is to study his example. More than that which is laid down in the Holy Scriptures, I say we should also pick up the books that depict the lost years of his life. When he was travelling the Far East, Tibet, India and China. Learning yet more wisdom and returning to his people with that information.

Many people think that The Prophets knew everything and never had to study under anyone. A look in The Qur'an, Surah Al-Khaf, will show you that Moses, peace be upon him, sought wisdom from one who knew more than him. Due to the impatience of Moses (pbuh) though, he was unable to learn this.

It's a powerful lesson to us all that even the men that we consider to be the greatest among us, also had to exercise patience and seek more than what they had.

A Prophet's lineage is important, but more important is the example that they left behind. Those who have eyes will see.
Peace.

Personally, I see the most important thing is what he laid down, which was the Knowledge and Wisdom, but I see this from the perspective of a person who has taken control of his own life. For those who are followers of other men, their perspective will be different because of their orientation.

When a person has the Knowledge and Wisdom, then they can come into their own Understanding in their own time and times. For those with Understanding, it's easy to see the importance of the Knowledge and Wisdom because it wasn't religion that was being taught, it was the science of life and life changes with time and that which doesn't change will eventually die. This is why the teachings of various men and/or women have been lost, forgotten, and misunderstood because the Knowledge and Wisdom wasn't preserved.

What's important varies from person to person.

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Old 08-21-2009, 01:17 PM   #9
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You know, if you spent as much time studying as you did trying to find any and every reason to attack Islam, you'd probably learn something.

Anyone with two active braincells to rub togethat knows that all you are is an Islamophobic drone and nothing more. The Bible has been rewritten more times than anyone currently has count of, which is a fine testimony as to just how much has been taken out and added in terms of truth and falsehood. Jesus (pbuh) brought ONE scripture. As did those before him. That Scripture was called The Gospel, which you can't even find in it's original Hebrew tongue anymore. What you call yourself following is a version of The Gospel according to a few people. Some of whom weren't even around Jesus (pbuh) at the time of his teachings. Yet you have the nerve to attack The Qur'an? A book that you most likely haven't read, because if you did, you would've known about the story of Moses and The Wise Man because it's one of the most known stories of this book??

Let me show you how to chap someone's hide properly. The term, "Islam" means, "Submission". Submission to The Creator of all things. All of The Prophets and Messengers prayed and asked for help and guidance from God. Fully submitting themselves to their Creator. This would no doubt make them candidates for the title of, "Muslim", one who submits to the Will of God.

Yes, Moses, pbuh, had to learn from someone. What, did you think Moses, pbuh, knew everything? That would make him God and not man. In which case he would be at the burning bush receiving orders from himself. At the top of Mt. Sinai receiving The 10 Commandments from....himself. There's no line in any book that says any of The Prophets were All-Knowing. That was just you running your mouth for the sake of running it, with absolutely nothing to contribute except a hatred for that which you know all of nothing about.

You don't know enough to start debates like this, so just do yourself a favor and stay in your place. Don't let your hatred get the best of you, because, as has been proven time and again, all it does is make you look even more stupid.
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Religion....the opiate of the masses.

Jesus didn't bring any scriptures, he came with Knowledge and Wisdom and taught from mouth to ear.

The 'Gospel' can be found in it's original tongue and Jesus spoke arabic/aramaic....that's was the language spoken on that part of the planet and the langauge used to write 'scriptures' not hebrew.....that came later.

The term Islam doesn't mean submission in any shape form or fashion (that's the religion of Al' Islam's connotation), it's means peace. It was the religion of Al' Islam that began to change the definition of Islam to fit more with the Platonic philosphy that was introduced in that said religion. The Quran came after the death of the prophet Muhammad as far as the quran being written down. Also, through time many different sects of that religion began to emerge and just like Christianity it became more and more diluted. The major sects in the religion of Al' Islam are the ones that's been mixed diluted and tampered with from other schools of thought. Before any 'prophets' including Abraham Islam existed and was preserved in writing among other forms of preservation. Also, Muslim does not mean one who submits to the will of god. Again, that's a religious connotation of the word Muslim, but the true word means something else.

Moses/Musa learned in what is now called Africa at the same places where Jesus learned and many other learned men learned from.

Knowledge is infinite and learning is a life long process.

There's many things in 'Islam' that the majority of the followers don't know about, for the same politics that go on with Christianity, there's no difference in Islam either...specifically the religion of Al' Islam.

Jesus didn't teach a religion, he taught the science of life, and he didn't teach from scriptures....he taught from mouth to ear.

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According to Webster's...

Hebrew. Noun. Definition 2. "A Semetic language of THE AFRO-ASIATIC FAMILY....."

Even your own book tells you, if you actually read it all the way through and don't just skip around, following what the guy at the podium tells you to do, that Jesus pbuh, had hair like lamb's wool and feet like burnt copper or bronze clay. Does this sound like the description of a white man to you?

This is why you always end up getting laughed at, because you choose to learn what you want to learn, instead of simply choosing to learn.
Peace.

Maybe his Bible doesn't have that description in it or maybe he doesn't understand.

There's alot written in both the Bible and the Quran.....I know there's things in the Quran that are clear to me, but you may have a different perspective, just as he may have a different perspective.

You can't make another person understand, that comes in time if ever comes to them.

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Jesus was NOT black and that's a fact! You cannot be serious.
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Jesus was NOT black and that's a fact! You cannot be serious.
I'd love to know where your sources stem from. And don't tell me it's a picture hanging up on someone's wall. If you can't give some kind of reliable source for your claim, then don't bother. Opinion only goes so far around here.
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Peace. Can anybody actually prove that he existed? And a name written in a book isn't proof. Peace.
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as far as jesus really existin there is substantial evidence as in the fact that there are thousands of gospels written around the time of jesus... the powers that were in the roman empire only chose certain gospels to include in what we know as the bible so if you seperate religion from spirituality than he existed and his teachings and ideas made a HUGE impact on the world... there's also evidence in a building built for Tiberius Caeser where there is a small inscription of the name Pontius Pilate (those familiar with the scripture understand what that means) he wasnt just a small figure in the scripture but he was a true historical Roman.... as far as him being black or white Urban Journalz already hit you with the scripture and just as a matter of common sence how many white people are natives to the middle east??? NONE... Jesus of NAZARETH
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Can anyone prove Jesus existed? Excuse me. I have to go shake my head in sheer comedic disbelief.
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