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Old 10-05-2009, 08:28 PM   #16
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ALRIGHT BUT ANOTHER THING TO UNderstand is their puppet masters, like the same people funded the usa and germans during the war. the president and furhur were both illuminati, its deep man keep searching though i dont got time im about to get fucked. maybe later
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I don't agree with any of that, Visions, at least not from the research I've done.
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:32 PM   #18
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^"research ive done"? Your like some sort of born again cristian in here, i never saw you post anything about Illumintit unitl like 3 weeks ago fool, stop pretending.

From what I can tell the illuminati have always been struggling AGAINST the estblishment, not with it, until the USA was created.

So make up your mind

And they have a VERY deep rooted belief system, thats centrally fundamental to everything they do, but you've got tards like saying "they infiltrated the vatican" - LOL some of you are fucking so detached from reality. Thats the last thing they would ever want to do, and it didnt happen, smh.
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:40 PM   #19
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^"research ive done"? Your like some sort of born again cristian in here, i never saw you post anything about Illumintit unitl like 3 weeks ago fool, stop pretending.

From what I can tell the illuminati have always been struggling AGAINST the estblishment, not with it, until the USA was created.

So make up your mind

And they have a VERY deep rooted belief system, thats centrally fundamental to everything they do, but you've got tards like saying "they infiltrated the vatican" - LOL some of you are fucking so detached from reality. Thats the last thing they would ever want to do, and it didnt happen, smh.
so you know all of a secret societies secrets?

@Brock, what exactly is it that you don't agree with? And what does your research tell you?
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:47 PM   #20
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Ive noticed brock is very good at going into threads like this in KTL, telling people they are wrong about stuff, talks about what he has "researched", but never actually saying anything about anything.
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:49 PM   #21
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The Atlantis story was just to perpetuate this myth of Atlantis, they believe they are indeed spawned from God directly, and that God be Satan, with Lucifer his son on Earth as ruler.


And as far as Ghostlaced goes, the illuminati are infiltrators, they infiltrate to destroy from within.
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:51 PM   #22
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LOL

non of that has anything to do with what freemasons or illuminiti believe or the roots of the organisation
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:54 PM   #23
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You are researching the illuminati from the 16th century, what you can read in wikipedia, the group has slightly evolved since then.
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so tell me why they would go from being driven by scientific knowledge to all of a sudden devil worshippers

thats a pretty big switch

why

Is that why they were against the Vatican, because it represented God, while they represent the devil?
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:00 PM   #25
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what "scientific knowledge"?
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what "scientific knowledge"?
That was what they were persecuted for. Galileo for example invented the telescope, and was basically the father of modern science, was almost killed by the Vatican for what he was doing.

Tonnes of scientists from that era went to the Illuminati to further and trade research, and they had to do it in secret because the Vatican outlawed it as heretical.

As for the free masons their symbol the compass and the set square is all you need to practise sacred geometry, which is what all symbolism is based upon, and the working of the universe.

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btw the Scientific Revolution occured at the SAME point in history that the Illuminati were founded.
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The illuminati tried to destroy the church, and one of the ways was introducing the age of scientific reason which was "ungodly".

They were hunted down for their practices in alchemy, which the Vatican considered Witchcraft, and many scientists that had nothing to do with the occult or the illuminati were persecuted. This forced them underground and caused them to drastically change the means in which they infiltrate and control the world.

But don't be confused, although many scientific minds were illuminists, most had no clue how deep the rabbit hole went or that their so called leaders were engaging in ritualistic sacrifices and worshiping the devil.

They practice secularized knowledge, and those that know only know on a need to know basis. In short, only a small percentage of those within the organization know what is really going on.
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btw the Scientific Revolution occured at the SAME point in history that the Illuminati were founded.
again, they claim to go back much further back than that and as far as the occult, that goes back a long way too. It goes back much further but look at Aleister Crowley, a 33rd degree mason.
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