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Old 10-07-2009, 10:14 PM   #16
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Any war in which the underdog succeeding in some form.

Pretty much any instance where the aggressors experiences disproportionate casualties and generally got destroyed.

If it's the US in this position, that's even better.

Aside from that, i think people who are "into war" are fucking weird.

No offense Nicky.
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Old 10-07-2009, 10:16 PM   #17
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No need to argue about the Zulus. If the Zulus were given half the weaponry that other cultures had Shaka would have been the God Emperor of an almost united africa. I imagine his race would rule most of the southern half of the continent, and that's world empire shit right there.

I mean the level of fanatic training those guys had was something disturbingly Laconian.

Though the Brits did them in just as hard at Rorkes Drift. I did the math, 1 in about 12 of the soldiers who held that mission got the victoria cross. Thats insane. Name a battle where the US gave Medals of Honor to 1 in 12 men.

Astounding fighting skill.

I agree though on the Roman thing. The United States has taken Republican Rome, Russia the Byzantine Empire. The Brits got the True Blue (err... Purple/Red) Roman Empire. Then they through it away...
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Old 10-07-2009, 11:22 PM   #18
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they found fossils of zulu warriors and their feet were as hard as hoves from running so much. the bone had reformed and swollen so much that a kick from one could kill you.

the only think that stopped their expansion was shaka loosing his god damn mind.


another great in africa you will never hear about is Sonni Ali.

He conquered an empire larger then western europe and the largest empire in african history on some serious ghengis khan shit. Ironically was destroying mosques and was an atheist but the empire he built would become Songhai which was very islamic and spread islam in nw. africa.
nigga went hard.
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war: vietnam - the spirit of the north vietnamese is a testiment to the saying "its not the size of the dog in the fight, but the fight in the dog"


battle: eureka stockade - even tho the good side lost the whole idea of workers fighting the british is a beautiful statement, and also the fact that people of different backgrounds/countries got together to fight a common evil.

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i have always wondered about this...
what was WW1 all about?
i know it started because of the death of a head of state in eastern europe, but can someone tell me in plain and simple english what it was for? was it just to gain land?

dont go copying wiki either...
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It was a spark of a powder keg of bad sentiments.

Terrorists killed the crown prince of a major empire. someone had to pay. The counterstrike resembles our modern invasion of afghanistan. Taliban weren't the cause, but they got fucked in the search for bad people.

Russia however told Austria it can't invade a country in search of a few people. Russia was supposed to have Serbia's back so they declared war on Austria. Austria called up its allies germany and some other minor nations. The french and brits jumped in for the Russians and it quickly spiraled well out of hand. No one was planning a major war, it was expected to be a quick slap on the nose to Austria by the allies, and the germans/austrians/huns wanted to tell Russia and its allies to mind their damn business. Ultimately pride was at stake as was the idea that the winner might get a benefit from the fight such as money or land treaties. Then it got really bloody really fast and any hopes at resolution vanished. Everyone went in for the long haul and it was going to get really wild. The ottomans teamed up with the germans if I recall in order to get some pressure of them from the russians and brits who pushed from opposite sides and began breaking up their empire.

Eventually the US jumped in a bit. There were some colonial conflicts all over the world and a lot of people got fucked over. I wouldn't really call it a world war, "The Great War" sums it up better IMO.

That's my simplification of it.
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Old 10-08-2009, 03:45 PM   #23
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Aside from that, i think people who are "into war" are fucking weird.

No offense Nicky.
Co sign. The whole time I was reading Tooch's post I was like is this wigga for real?
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Old 10-08-2009, 03:57 PM   #24
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1. american revolution
2. civil war
3 french and indian/ 7 years war (the real world war I)
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Old 10-08-2009, 04:07 PM   #25
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WW1 was raw, but im not a fan considering we lost out empire and got shafted from every angle.

in terms of wars
Rome - Carthage
Mongol - China, Persia and Russia.
The Crusades
Ottoman - Byzantine
Ottoman - Habsburg
Ottoman - Safavid
Ottoman - Holy league (all naval battles)
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Han what role did the ottomans play in the crusades?

i know little to nothing about ottoman history.
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why? WWII is the greatest story ever told if your not an emotional queef.
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it has everything that makes a perfect story only on the largest scale of all time and happened in real life
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anyone been watching World War 2: The Apocalypse on tuesday nights?
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Old 10-08-2009, 06:31 PM   #29
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nobody wanted a strong germany. France didn't cause they're get ethered (and did) Britain didn't cause at germans maximum extent it will inevitably be stronger larger and more powerful then england and the russians didn't cause in order for germany to reach god status they would have to exercise significant dominion over eastern europe which would be default end russias god body.



Crimea was dope imo cause it was the real end of the ottoman empire and beginning of the scramble to fill the void. Russia needed it cause the ottomans were the only thing keeping russia from the world due to location, the germans needed it cause they needed to control eastern europe to be powerful, the british didn't want the germans to gain power or did the french out of fear.





also NICKY TOOUCH what did ceasar say about the gauls? i've read some stuff and didn't know if you heard anything different

i heard that the gauls were the least trust worthy people on earth and that the huns would warm meat with the heat of their thighs, the celts were constantly fragmented and fighting endlessly though really brave, and they all worshipped 'hermes' which was their interpretation of Thor due to the horned helmet.
I read it in college and i forget the name of the piece, but it was very interesting. he just described how they were and their customs. Very interesting piece. I'll try to find it for you.

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Any war in which the underdog succeeding in some form.

Pretty much any instance where the aggressors experiences disproportionate casualties and generally got destroyed.

If it's the US in this position, that's even better.

Aside from that, i think people who are "into war" are fucking weird.

No offense Nicky.
Its not surprising. You are a very liberal minded person, hence the rooting for the 'underdog' and the preconcieved notions about people who have an interest in history and military history.
I would assume your somewhat of an underdog yourself?

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i have always wondered about this...
what was WW1 all about?
i know it started because of the death of a head of state in eastern europe, but can someone tell me in plain and simple english what it was for? was it just to gain land?

dont go copying wiki either...
You call yourself a fucking European???

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Han what role did the ottomans play in the crusades?

i know little to nothing about ottoman history.

why? WWII is the greatest story ever told if your not an emotional queef.
ever told
it has everything that makes a perfect story only on the largest scale of all time and happened in real life
Ottoman History is pretty impressive, espeically the early sultans up to Mehmed the Conqueror.
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war: vietnam - the spirit of the north vietnamese is a testiment to the saying "its not the size of the dog in the fight, but the fight in the dog"

Eh, i agree and disagree because the Americans were fighting with one, pretty much two arms self-tied behind their own backs.

You do realize that they did not have any military operation in NOrth Vietnam? The plan was just to keep South Vietnam away from the communists.

I dont kno if your familiar with American football, but that is what we call playing a 'prevent defense', and most of the time, when you are playing not to lose instead of playing to win, you handicap yourself.

Had the US gone full force into North Vietnam with the intent of destroying Ho Chi Minh, I believe they would have beens successful in doing so.
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