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Old 11-07-2009, 07:21 PM   #1
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Old 11-07-2009, 09:45 PM   #2
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LOL why did u delete the post.
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Old 11-08-2009, 12:33 AM   #3
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Old 11-08-2009, 09:11 AM   #4
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good thread - could you reconsider putting the questions back up ?

i say yes - and it's already done
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"Too many people have been indoctrinated in the Jesus story without really knowing anything about the life of the Christ. This is why when their savior appears they don’t recognize him/her; they’re to busy looking for Jesus. "

hahahahah who does krs one think the saviour is then ???? ; himself....... hahahahah




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Old 11-08-2009, 06:09 PM   #6
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it's not about what Krs thinks - it's about what you think

if you think that a man that was born 2000 years ago yet always existed will be todays peoples savior, that is your path to walk - if there were a people who needed saving and someone came and did just that, then, that person who saved those people is the savior - save people from what ?

or who ?


you lack respect for other peoples paths - like if you have the way and the answers - you clearly do not - i understand what you say about jesus, the trinity, and jesus being god and all - i truly understand what you are saying - i'm just seeing it at a different angle - and i respect where you are at in your growth - will you grow more ?


plus - what Krs is saying is fact - there are too many people indoctrinated with that name - but know nothing about that man or the one that man prophesied to come in the end times -
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it's not about what Krs thinks - it's about what you think

if you think that a man that was born 2000 years ago yet always existed will be todays peoples savior, that is your path to walk - if there were a people who needed saving and someone came and did just that, then, that person who saved those people is the savior - save people from what ?

or who ?


you lack respect for other peoples paths - like if you have the way and the answers - you clearly do not - i understand what you say about jesus, the trinity, and jesus being god and all - i truly understand what you are saying - i'm just seeing it at a different angle - and i respect where you are at in your growth - will you grow more ?


plus - what Krs is saying is fact - there are too many people indoctrinated with that name - but know nothing about that man or the one that man prophesied to come in the end times -
reps ^^^^

nicely put..you came across calm and intelligant and very respectful.


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- Can we create a messiah?

If we are miniature God(s) connected to the "essence" in theory, through faith and positive energy, etc could we on a mass scale manifest an entity of greater ability?

Like a human being that has more of a "connection", in general. All of the right circumstances to create an individual that was inherently enlightened and continued down the path of enlightenment until...

Just a theory, any thoughts

I personally would prefer such an entity to be a result of our existence than just a timely divine intervention, even though it would be a timely divine intervention
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Yes - we have already many times before and we will do it again as a collective matrix of spiritual thought that makes things become manifest. Thats why its so important for the Establishment to feed us on the daily with all this negativity and sin flooded on all fronts and airwaves.

Read into Edgar Cayce and his readings on the Christ Consciousness.

http://www.crystalinks.com/edgar_cayce.html

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Origin and destiny of humanity - "All souls were created in the beginning, and are finding their way back to whence they came." Cayce believes that human souls were created with a consciousness of their oneness with God. Some "fell" from this state; others - led by the Jesus soul - volunteered to save them. The Earth, with all its limitations, was created as a suitable arena for spiritual growth.

Duality - According to Cayce, Atlantean society was divided into two long-lived political factions - a "good" faction called the "Sons of the Law of One," and an "evil" faction called the "Sons of Belial." According to the readings, a major source of turmoil was the Sons of Belial's desire to exploit the Things, sub-humans with animal appendages and low intelligence, and the movements to protect and evolve them by the Sons of the Law of One.

Universal laws - Souls incarnated on the earth are subject to certain spiritual laws such as, "As ye sow, so shall ye reap" (karma) or "As ye judge (others), so shall ye be judged." Properly regarded, such laws represent an aspect of God's mercy whereby no matter what our circumstances, he has promised to guide us in our spiritual path.


Jesus and Christ Consciousness

Following New Thought precedent, Cayce distinguishes between Jesus and Christhood. Briefly, Jesus was a soul like us, who reincarnated through many lifetimes (and made many mistakes). "Christhood" is something which he achieved, and to which we also ought to aspire. Cayce accordingly calls Jesus our "elder brother."
From Cayce's perspective, we are not simply physical bodies, instead we are spiritual beings who are having a physical experience entailing personal growth and development. Many individuals have incorrectly assumed that the goal of being in the earth is to simply reach heaven, find enlightenment, or somehow "get out of the earth." And yet, this is a perspective quite different from that contained in the Cayce material. Instead, Cayce believed that as children of God, our mission was to somehow bring spirit into the earth.

The dynamics of our deep and literal connection to God can be found throughout scripture, beginning with Genesis when we are told that God made humankind in the Creator's image. But our relationship with God as our Parent is perhaps no more clearly illustrated than in the Parable of the Prodigal Son (Luke 15:11-24). This parable describes the journey of the soul: we were with God in the beginning, through the power of our free will we were able to make choices that were not necessarily in perfect accord with the Creator. And, at some point, we will "arise" and decide to return to God, regaining our inheritance and experiencing our true relationship with Him.

One of the readings beautifully describes the spiritual nature of humankind in this way:

"For ye are a corpuscle in the body of God; thus a co-creator with Him, in what ye think, in what ye do." - Edgar Cayce reading #2794-3
The readings state that God desires to be expressed in the world through us. The example set by Jesus is apparently a "pattern" of wholeness for each and every soul.Regardless of an individual's religious or personal beliefs, this Christ pattern exists in potential upon the very fiber of their being. It is that part of each of us that is in perfect accord with the Creator and is simply waiting to find expression in our lives.

This Christ pattern was further described as "the awareness within each soul, imprinted in pattern on the mind and waiting to be awakened by the will, of the soul's oneness with God" (5749-14), and its manifestation is the eventual destiny of each and every soul. With this in mind, the readings present Jesus as our "Elder brother," a soul who came to show each one of us the way back to our spiritual Source by perfectly manifesting the laws of the Creator in the earth.

Just as an older sibling can sometimes provide insight and counsel into some of life's difficulties (because he or she went through them first) Jesus as Elder brother can assist us in facing life's challenges. What may surprise individuals is that this fact has nothing to do with religion, it has to do with spirituality and discovering our true relationship with God - a relationship we share with Jesus. The readings not only affirm that Jesus was the Son of God, but they also state the same thing about each and everyone of us. In other words: Jesus was like each one of us and, ultimately, each one of us is destined to be like Him.

Q. What is the main purpose of Jesus' incarnation?
EC: To glorify the Christ Consciousness in the Earth . in the lives of those with whom ye come in contact, and to live the same thyself. - Reading 2441-4

Q. What is the meaning and significance of the words Jesus and Christ...?

EC: Just as indicated. Jesus is the man, the activity, the mind, the relationships that He bore to others. Yea, He was mindful of friends, He was sociable. He was loving. He was kind. He was gentle. He grew faint, He grew weak and yet gained that strength that He has promised, in becoming the Christ, by fulfilling and overcoming the world! Ye are made strong in body, in mind, in soul and purpose by that power in Christ. The power, then, is in the Christ. The pattern is in Jesus. - Reading 2533-7

This transformative power of the Christ Consciousness is awakened as individuals act in accord with the pattern set by the example of Jesus' life. In fact, this awakening is the essential purpose for which each soul enters into life.

From Cayce's perspective, Jesus is the Elder brother for all of humankind, deeply committed to assisting all souls in reawakening to the awareness of their oneness with God. This Jesus is not interested in religious conversion, denominationalism, or even mighty personal accomplishments. Instead, He is simply interested in how we treat one another. With this in mind, even in the midst of our diversity as a human family, we share a common spiritual heritage. We are all Children of the same God. We are all part of the one spiritual Source. And, we are all destined to return to our Creator, our Mother/Father, our God.

Unknown Life of Jesus - Cayce presented narratives of Jesus' previous incarnations, including a mysterious Atlantean figure called "Amilius" as well as the more familiar biblical figures of Adam, Enoch, Melchizedek, Joshua, Asaph, and Jeshua. Cayce describes Jesus as an Essene who traveled to India in his youth in order to study Eastern religions. Read more [scroll down]
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